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Did you get a 4090?

Did you get a 4090?


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What was your buying experience this morning

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After getting some very early am reports on the absolutely ZERO availability, I just built my own card, using counterfeit parts from that place over yonder, you know, the one known as the patent infringement/reverse engineering capital of the world, hehehehehehe :roll:

I'm calling it the 4099ti-XXX-Super-Duper-Mega-OC-Ultra-Quad-Zirconium-mii-mye-gung-ho-yingum-yangum-edition....!

And I will gladly build you one, for the low, low price of just $5000, with guaranteed overnight delivery.... in about 8 months :)

/s
 
I got to checkout on the Gaming Trio variant but I kinda only want an FE model so I canceled... There was stock on newegg for about 5-10m
 
I'm still fine fine with RX 580. The market has gone completely crazy, both hardware and gaming markets tbf. I don't think than even lower end SKUs will be worth it.
 
I hit refresh at 3PM on proshop and when I added it to baseket I got "Item is no longer available". So yeah, another paper launch, at least in Europe.
 
I could have easily bought one here in Perth Australia, same site I got my 3080 from but far less traffic and site slow down etc, could have had my pick of all 8 models in stock. 30 series launch was 10x worse if not more.,

Cheapest (MSRP-ish) ones gone in less than 5 minutes, and at the time of writing (t+12 minutes) there are more premium ones in stock.

None were models I concluded would stand a chance of fitting my case, so any scrap of foolish temptation was squashed.

Perhaps a 3rd poll option that is something like, I had the choice to buy an in stock 4090, but decided not to.
 
watching newegg go from 10 models, down to 6 in 5 minutes then to 4 after another 5 minutes.
 
Newegg has a few in stock, the Geek in me is tempted.. But my strix 3080 12Gb still cuts through everything like butter.

I'll Pass for now.

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Nvidia reportedly preparing RTX 4090 Ti cards with up to 20% increased performance over the RTX 4090​



o_O

3dmark port royal benchmark world record has been destroyed by a rtx 4090 on liquid nitrogen
:D


Average clock frequency = 3,360 MHz
:eek:



 
I'll get mine probably in the spring of 2026 when they're affordable in the used market. It's probably now a good time to consider a 2080 Ti.

I'm still fine fine with RX 580. The market has gone completely crazy, both hardware and gaming markets tbf. I don't think than even lower end SKUs will be worth it.
Agree. I remember clearly when practically nobody bought a Titan for 1000EUR/USD but now it's totally fine to pay way more for a cut-down non-Titan card. And yeah, inflation etc., but several years ago prices like this would've been a total joke.

And we'll see the full chip Ti later on.
 
I wasnt able to grab one this AM. even the ones that showed as available wouldn't let me check out because of insufficient stock. it took newegg several minutes to update the order page to indicate they didnt have any.
 
Agree. I remember clearly when practically nobody bought a Titan for 1000EUR/USD but now it's totally fine to pay way more for a cut-down non-Titan card. And yeah, inflation etc., but several years ago prices like this would've been a total joke.

And we'll see the full chip Ti later on.
Oh you really shouldn't agree with me as staying with RX 580 is certainly not wise anymore, especially with target resolution being 1440p. Thing is that GPU pricing is mental and the only one GPU worth getting nowadays ir RX 6600. It offers passable price/perf, but it's still ~350 EUR card and I'm terribly not used to paying anything more than ~200 EUR for card, so while value is technically great, the absolute price is way beyond what I would consider paying for one. That's also if I needed a card desperately, thankfully I don't, but RX 6600 is around 2x faster and also at around 2x price and at basically the same wattage. My RX 580 with just TDP slider basically beats 5500 XT at perf/watt and it comes uncomfortably close to RX 6600 perf/watt too and with UV it beats them both. That's great for me, but doesn't motivate me to consider newer hardware. And probably the most important reason against it, is just that simply I plainly don't see new games worth playing. I don't even want to spend time looking for them and would rather start playing something from 2010s. And the only games I play today are Victoria 2 and Horizon 5. Victoria 2 runs on absolute potato GPU and struggles with any CPU, even 12900K and Horizon 5 runs at medium-high settings at above 60 fps, so I lock it to 60, oh and the biggest flaw of that game is that it randomly stutters and that I apparently live in location far from MS servers, so I have 150-250 ms ping to Teredo server and that often means shitty experience. I recently got Arma CWA from GOG, which is the first Arma release, but still haven't started playing it, due to trying to solve some technical issues with mouse. It's a game from 2001 and apparently should run on potato from last decade too. So my hardware needs are rather low.

Another interesting revelation is that ~200 EUR budget only affords RX 6500 XT (actually it's now over 220 EUR) or GTX 1650 GDDR6. First is awful with PCIe 3 boards and other is too slow. So I went to eBay and local used HW shop. Local shop only had GTX 660 Ti for 36 EUR, which is great value if you are tight on cash, meanwhile eBay has early Christmas. GTX 1080, GTX 1070 or GTX 1660 Ti can all be found for less than 200 EUR or a tiny bit more. So basically you pay RX 6500 XT price for a gen or two older HW to get RX 6600 performance or better. Not only that, but sometimes you can even offer a lower price and maybe get a small discount too. That's mental. And just really shows that used cards can be worth considering, especially on budget. If I needed a card, I would be cool with taking a risk on that eBay GTX 1080. But like I said I don't need a faster card, but it's nice to know that 200 EUR budget is still not too low for something nice, not only nice, but something with higher perf/watt too, which is bonkers.

That said, new hardware has a big price problem. Looking at data, it seems that GPU makers had a bit of profiteering going on, but it was 10-15%, at most 25%, that does not explain basically 80% higher prices and it just seems that cost to make a card went up a lot, which means that this cost inflation is here to stay and that RX 6400 or RX 6500 XT were actually reasonable cards for budget, it's just that economic conditions deteriorated really that much. That's very concerning. That most likely means that truly affordable performance on budget most likely is a thing of past or nV, AMD, Intel and TSMC might take a haircut and offer something more reasonable, but there's only so much that can be cut. Let's say they cut profiteering by 20% and cut margins by 10%, gains for Intel will be only 30%, meanwhile for nV and AMD will be only 38%. Nice and all, but nowhere close to 80% or higher cost rise that already happened. This is not a complete model of expenses, as TSMC or Intel still buy materials, machines and etc. for fabs, but particularly materials tend to have close to zero margins and machinery has margins lower than semiconductors. This basically means that for at least 5 years, budget gaming is getting worse or more expensive and another 5 years might eventually just kill it as concept, which is really sad.
 
Oh you really shouldn't agree with me as staying with RX 580 is certainly not wise anymore, especially with target resolution being 1440p. Thing is that GPU pricing is mental and the only one GPU worth getting nowadays ir RX 6600. It offers passable price/perf, but it's still ~350 EUR card and I'm terribly not used to paying anything more than ~200 EUR for card, so while value is technically great, the absolute price is way beyond what I would consider paying for one. That's also if I needed a card desperately, thankfully I don't, but RX 6600 is around 2x faster and also at around 2x price and at basically the same wattage. My RX 580 with just TDP slider basically beats 5500 XT at perf/watt and it comes uncomfortably close to RX 6600 perf/watt too and with UV it beats them both. That's great for me, but doesn't motivate me to consider newer hardware. And probably the most important reason against it, is just that simply I plainly don't see new games worth playing. I don't even want to spend time looking for them and would rather start playing something from 2010s. And the only games I play today are Victoria 2 and Horizon 5. Victoria 2 runs on absolute potato GPU and struggles with any CPU, even 12900K and Horizon 5 runs at medium-high settings at above 60 fps, so I lock it to 60, oh and the biggest flaw of that game is that it randomly stutters and that I apparently live in location far from MS servers, so I have 150-250 ms ping to Teredo server and that often means shitty experience. I recently got Arma CWA from GOG, which is the first Arma release, but still haven't started playing it, due to trying to solve some technical issues with mouse. It's a game from 2001 and apparently should run on potato from last decade too. So my hardware needs are rather low.

Another interesting revelation is that ~200 EUR budget only affords RX 6500 XT (actually it's now over 220 EUR) or GTX 1650 GDDR6. First is awful with PCIe 3 boards and other is too slow. So I went to eBay and local used HW shop. Local shop only had GTX 660 Ti for 36 EUR, which is great value if you are tight on cash, meanwhile eBay has early Christmas. GTX 1080, GTX 1070 or GTX 1660 Ti can all be found for less than 200 EUR or a tiny bit more. So basically you pay RX 6500 XT price for a gen or two older HW to get RX 6600 performance or better. Not only that, but sometimes you can even offer a lower price and maybe get a small discount too. That's mental. And just really shows that used cards can be worth considering, especially on budget. If I needed a card, I would be cool with taking a risk on that eBay GTX 1080. But like I said I don't need a faster card, but it's nice to know that 200 EUR budget is still not too low for something nice, not only nice, but something with higher perf/watt too, which is bonkers.

That said, new hardware has a big price problem. Looking at data, it seems that GPU makers had a bit of profiteering going on, but it was 10-15%, at most 25%, that does not explain basically 80% higher prices and it just seems that cost to make a card went up a lot, which means that this cost inflation is here to stay and that RX 6400 or RX 6500 XT were actually reasonable cards for budget, it's just that economic conditions deteriorated really that much. That's very concerning. That most likely means that truly affordable performance on budget most likely is a thing of past or nV, AMD, Intel and TSMC might take a haircut and offer something more reasonable, but there's only so much that can be cut. Let's say they cut profiteering by 20% and cut margins by 10%, gains for Intel will be only 30%, meanwhile for nV and AMD will be only 38%. Nice and all, but nowhere close to 80% or higher cost rise that already happened. This is not a complete model of expenses, as TSMC or Intel still buy materials, machines and etc. for fabs, but particularly materials tend to have close to zero margins and machinery has margins lower than semiconductors. This basically means that for at least 5 years, budget gaming is getting worse or more expensive and another 5 years might eventually just kill it as concept, which is really sad.
Good points there. That's pretty much the reason why I go for 1-2 generation old high-end cards used. It's not even THAT long ago when you could buy a high-end gaming PC with peripherals with the price a flagship costs today.

And also efficiency has been totally flushed from the toilet since the FE card has a 450W TDP. Looks like that they just want to push the performance to the max, no matter the power consumption.
 
And also efficiency has been totally flushed from the toilet since the FE card has a 450W TDP. Looks like that they just want to push the performance to the max, no matter the power consumption.
This I hate the most. Many Europeans are now scrambling to reduce their energy usage and nV is like, BuT mAH Rtx 4090, TeH Gpu EquiVAleNt oF V8 iz Gud, JUst BuY It, iT jUsT WerKs. nVidia has been similarly tone deaf in the past, but this is probably the peak idiocity from them. I only hope that Europe shows them middle finger that they deserve and finally there will be RTX LE like cards. And power usage isn't even the only problem with RTX 4090, it's also fire hazard, doesn't fit anywhere, other than milk crate and minus performance is just stupid product overall. I remember times, when Galaxy S7 and iPhone 7s were banned from airports due to them being a bombs. Would be really hilarious if RTX 4xxx cards were banned from EU for being fire hazards too.
 
My attempt at getting an FE failed but I managed to get an AIB card at MSRP. Still looking out for an FE and will return or try to sell back my AIB card to an honest buyer that isn't going to scalp it if I do.
 
Plonkers already on Facebook marketplace here in the UK selling them for an average of ÂŁ2750.
 
I cant believe in 2 years they haven't figured out how to no get scalped.

I guess they don't really care as long as they make the money but this is getting ridiculous. Basically just going to have to code a python bot to sit there and try to order one.
 
Well i think this answers the question for my part. Just manage to find this card today.

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Plonkers buying them from FB marketplace then.
 
Plonkers buying them from FB marketplace then.
There is one guy in particular that is selling 20 of them. They are ruining it for everyone else
 
I probably want one and it'll be nice having one for 4k 120hz but I won't even begin to look until AMD has their cards out. I'm pretty turned off by Nvidia's decisions the past couple years.
 
Basically just going to have to code a python bot to sit there and try to order one.
Or just use your own 3080. It's not even close to being old, slow or obsolete.
 
Or just use your own 3080. It's not even close to being old, slow or obsolete.
That's why I sell it now for $500 and buy a 4090. Well I mean, I would if one could actually buy a 4090FE. Realistically it will be another 4 months before I buy something.
 
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