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xizlol

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Hi all.
I bought a desktop PC a few weeks ago, (been using laptop for about 4 years before this)
I got so used to having TS so I downloaded it aswell on my desktop.
Trying to get rid of the EDP other occurring during gaming sessions.
I recorded the log.
Anyone that would mind telling me if there´s something going on or something I should change in my settings.
 

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unclewebb

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Post some screenshots so I can see your settings and what CPU you have.
 
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go into the bios, max out powerlimits and that should be it.
 

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i9 11900k
Haven´t changed anything really, unchecked a few boxes. Tried some -voltage
changed a few core speeds.

go into the bios, max out powerlimits and that should be it.
I have a ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F GAMING WIFI
I´m not that experienced in going into bios and changing stuff other then some core & voltage stuff. Would you mind guiding me or finding a guide clip?
thanks for the response.
 

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Trying to get rid of the EDP other
There is nothing in ThrottleStop that can be used to get rid of this problem. In ThrottleStop you can set IccMax for both the core and the cache to the max, 255.75 and you can set Power Limit 4 to a value of 0. Those are the only features that can help with EDP throttling and it looks like you have already done this or the BIOS is set like this. Some CPUs are hyper sensitive and can easily trigger the EDP throttling flag within the CPU. I am not sure why. It does not seem to be hurting performance.

In the TPL window I would check the Speed Shift box so the Speed Shift Min and Max values are sent to the CPU. I would also check the MMIO Lock box in this window.

You could try clearing the V-Max Stress box in the FIVR window.

Your -50 mV undervolt appears to be working correctly. Most desktop owners prefer to set voltages in the BIOS so I have received very little ThrottleStop feedback from 11th Gen desktop CPU owners. A -50 mV undervolt is usually about right on many CPUs.

Try running another log file so I can see if any of the above tweaks make any difference.
 

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There is nothing in ThrottleStop that can be used to get rid of this problem. In ThrottleStop you can set IccMax for both the core and the cache to the max, 255.75 and you can set Power Limit 4 to a value of 0. Those are the only features that can help with EDP throttling and it looks like you have already done this or the BIOS is set like this. Some CPUs are hyper sensitive and can easily trigger the EDP throttling flag within the CPU. I am not sure why. It does not seem to be hurting performance.

In the TPL window I would check the Speed Shift box so the Speed Shift Min and Max values are sent to the CPU. I would also check the MMIO Lock box in this window.

You could try clearing the V-Max Stress box in the FIVR window.

Your -50 mV undervolt appears to be working correctly. Most desktop owners prefer to set voltages in the BIOS so I have received very little ThrottleStop feedback from 11th Gen desktop CPU owners. A -50 mV undervolt is usually about right on many CPUs.

Try running another log file so I can see if any of the above tweaks make any difference.
I´ve done some testing all day from both bios & TS.
Nothing that I´m changing in the Bios seems to make anything appear in the limit window.
but I noticed that as SOON as I checked the "unlock adjustable Voltage" in the FIVR window the EDP other seems to be appearing in the limit reasons, it also flashed red a few times while playing games.
Now I´ve turned on XMP in bios, running at 4.9ghz 8 core.
Turned off Thermal Velocity Boost @ V-Max Stress.

Still can´t check the "Unlock the adjustable Voltage"

There is nothing in ThrottleStop that can be used to get rid of this problem. In ThrottleStop you can set IccMax for both the core and the cache to the max, 255.75 and you can set Power Limit 4 to a value of 0. Those are the only features that can help with EDP throttling and it looks like you have already done this or the BIOS is set like this. Some CPUs are hyper sensitive and can easily trigger the EDP throttling flag within the CPU. I am not sure why. It does not seem to be hurting performance.

In the TPL window I would check the Speed Shift box so the Speed Shift Min and Max values are sent to the CPU. I would also check the MMIO Lock box in this window.

You could try clearing the V-Max Stress box in the FIVR window.

Your -50 mV undervolt appears to be working correctly. Most desktop owners prefer to set voltages in the BIOS so I have received very little ThrottleStop feedback from 11th Gen desktop CPU owners. A -50 mV undervolt is usually about right on many CPUs.

Try running another log file so I can see if any of the above tweaks make any difference.
When I check the Speed shift box in TLP, should I change the values anything?
Also, do I check speed shift EPP aswell then? or leave that unchecked.
 

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To troubleshoot this problem, reboot and run HWiNFO. Do not run ThrottleStop.
Have a look at what speed the RIng/LLC is running at.

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I prefer to use the Windows High Performance power plan when testing so the CPU and Ring are both running at full speed even when idle. Now start ThrottleStop and watch to see if the cache speed changes. Perhaps ThrottleStop is changing the cache speed or perhaps ThrottleStop just accessing this register in the CPU is enough to trigger yellow EDP boxes in Limit Reasons.

You can also use HWiNFO to watch the Limit Reasons flags both before and after your start ThrottleStop.

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EDP OTHER throttling is not well documented by Intel. There are a variety of different things that can trigger this type of throttling. The important thing is to watch what speed your cache runs at. If it seems to be running at full speed then I would not worry too much about EDP lighting up once in a while.

I do not own a 11900K for testing and development purposes. If ThrottleStop is doing something funny and is triggering EDP throttling, there is probably no way that I am going to be able to diagnose and solve this problem. My similar 10850K does not have any EDP throttling issues. If you set a negative offset voltage in the BIOS, you do not need to check the Unlock Adjustable Voltage box in ThrottleStop.

When you check the Speed Shift box in the TPL window, you can set the Speed Shift Min and Speed Shift Max values to whatever you like. You can set Speed Shift Max to 255 so it does not interfere with your maximum CPU speed or you can lower this value if you want to slow your CPU speed down.

I leave Speed Shift EPP on the main screen unchecked. Use the Windows High Performance power plan if you want your CPU to run at full speed when it is lightly loaded. Windows will automatically set EPP to 0 when using this plan. If you switch to the Windows Balanced power plan, Windows usually sets EPP to a value of 84. If the C states are enabled, it is OK to run your CPU at full speed all of the time. The C states drop unused cores down to 0 MHz and 0 volts so there is no need to slow the rest of the CPU down.
 
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