First results for delidded Ryzen 7000 series direct die cooling by Der Bauer

[Colddecked]

Believes AMD made the IHS too thick and his results seem to back that up. 20 degree difference from stock.
Maybe AMD should think about a factory delidded chip...

 

[Space Lynx]

20 celsius drop holy shit. lmao

doesn't look like it is as easy as delidding in the past though.

@W1zzard you should work with this guy someday since you both in Germany.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Believes AMD made the IHS too thick and his results seem to back that up. 20 degree difference from stock.
Maybe AMD should think about a factory delidded chip...

He'd have to test a bunch of thicknesses to have that conclusion.

The plate is there so AMD can sell 200w chips and you can just get a nice air cooler to slap on it. Or we'd all have to buy 200$ waterblocks from EK. And a de-lid tool also. And some LM probably....

Aw F'it a NH D15 will suffice with simple thermal paste.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
People delidding intel 79..x series saw the same 20c drop in temps so there's nothing really earth shattering beside he didn't messup the chip delidding it.

 

[karakarga]

I have a Xeon E5-2696 v4, 2200MHz 22 core processor. Works on Huananzhi X99-TF mainboard with 4 piece Samsung 16GB 2400MHz Reg Ecc DDR4 memory total 64 GB. Without any extra trick, it gets 17168 points on Cinebench with a Thermaltake Frio OCK Snow Edition 240 Watt air cooler, works within real cool temperature margin lower than the delidded Ryzen 7000 AMD processor on the video.

So what the all extra work for is? Money waste, including buying expensive AMD processor, with expensive Asus mainboard with new 2 piece expensive DDR5 rams. I have bought my Xeon E5-2696 v4 one month ago from eBay $173, now it is $178 lately.

 

[Colddecked]

I have a Xeon E5-2696 v4, 2200MHz 22 core processor. Works on Huananzhi X99-TF mainboard with 4 piece Samsung 16GB 2400MHz Reg Ecc DDR4 memory total 64 GB. Without any extra trick, it gets 17168 points on Cinebench with a Thermaltake Frio OCK Snow Edition 240 Watt cooler, works within real cool temperature margin lower than the delidded Ryzen 7000 AMD processor on the video.

So what the all extra work for is? Money waste, including buying expensive AMD processor, with expensive Asus mainboard with new 2 piece expensive DDR5 rams. I have bought my Xeon E5-2696 v4 one month ago from eBay $173, now it is $178 lately.

I mean sure if you want to run blender all day that's a good option.

Hi,
People delidding intel 79..x series saw the same 20c drop in temps so there's nothing really earth shattering beside he didn't messup the chip delidding it.

Didn't they not solder that IHS?

He'd have to test a bunch of thicknesses to have that conclusion.

The plate is there so AMD can sell 200w chips and you can just get a nice air cooler to slap on it. Or we'd all have to buy 200$ waterblocks from EK. And a de-lid tool also. And some LM probably....

Aw F'it a NH D15 will suffice with simple thermal paste.

Right, but its just the start. I'm sure that will be covered in time.

That's his point in the video, AMD did it for convenience not performance.

 

[ir_cow]

regardless of being delid, you shouldn't exceed 1.3 V for long durations. So the limit is 5.5 GHz, or about 100 Mhz more. Of course much cooler running.

 

[Steevo]

Believes AMD made the IHS too thick and his results seem to back that up. 20 degree difference from stock.
Maybe AMD should think about a factory delidded chip...

Intel is flexing their CPU causing overheating, if the thicker IHS doesn’t prevent flexing it serves no purpose, if it prevents flexing for 98% of users it’s worth it overall.

 

[P4-630]

Without any extra trick, it gets 17168 points on Cinebench

A i7 12700K gets well over that and uses less power, ofcourse if you got cheap power where you live it isn't that bad.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

The plate is there so AMD can sell 200w chips and you can just get a nice air cooler to slap on it. Or we'd all have to buy 200$ waterblocks from EK. And a de-lid tool also. And some LM probably....

I believe a lot of the thickness comes from the need of AM4 cooler compatibility, as the new die and socket are much shorter.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I mean sure if you want to run blender all day that's a good option.


Didn't they not solder that IHS?


Right, but its just the start. I'm sure that will be covered in time.

That's his point in the video, AMD did it for convenience not performance.

They've been doing it for convience since socket 754 then... this would mark the first change in the plates design in about 2 decades.

Since the chip is still 40mms, why the change to LGA is my ultimate question.

 

[Shrek]

Not so keen on relying on anodizing as an insulator.

 

[onemanhitsquad]

A i7 12700K gets well over that and uses less power, ofcourse if you got cheap power where you live it isn't that bad.

JayzTwoCents talks about the Cinebench score ...as well as the scoop on the 7950X ...impressive

 

[stinger608]

as well as the scoop on the 7950X ...impressive

Yeppers, I have to agree man!!!!! Sounds like one hell of a chip.........And platform.

 

[caroline!]

-20C... remember Coffee Lake? delid+undervolting was the only way to run these at reasonable temps if you were to overclock by a single MHz.

 

[cadaveca]

-20C... remember Coffee Lake? delid+undervolting was the only way to run these at reasonable temps if you were to overclock by a single MHz.

My review package thing from Intel had a coffee mug in it. the mug was broken. Given the platform and your thoughts, that is now comical.