Going to buy (assemble) a new PC, need help

[himendra]

Im not a technical guy at all and im gona have to buy a new cpu soon, i,m trying to get a good deal here, my budget is 50,000 rs max...

im contacting computer dealers in my city trying to get their price list,

just got a list from a seller that i will paste below, i do not need a new keyboard, mouse,lan card, dvd rom, as i have these devices from my old PC, still the seller has included the price of these too in the list below

also i want to mention that i play games quiet a lot, can somebody tell me a decent CPU configuration in this 50,000 rs budget??

this is the config and price the seller has sent me

Intel Core i7 4790 New 4th Generation CPU ( 3.6GHz, 8 MB Cache ) Rs.63,000 /- +

- Compatible MSI Z97 Motherboard

- 8x2=16 GB Branded Kingston or Transcend DDR3 1600Mhz RAM.

- Nvidia N750GT 2 GB PCI Express DDR5 Display.

- 500 GB SATA Hard Disk for operating system.

- 2 TB SATAII 3.0 Gbps HDD for A/V Storage.

- Cabinet with 650 W SMPS and cooling FANs.

-Multimedia Keyboard / Scroll Mouse

total Rs.63,000 /- +

 

[RCoon]

Get a dedicated PSU, not a cabinet/case that come with a janky one liable to explode. Also never let a company make your build for you. Choose your components and then compare various pricing.

Also for gaming, that is one of the most imbalanced builds I've seen. An i7 and a GTX 750? My advice, don't buy a thing from that company.

 

[himendra]

Oh, PSU means power supply unit? you are right, i should make my own choice of components here but the problem is I dont know about these components, I have been gaming but didnt get to know the technical stuff and how computers work, I am from india, will you be able to suggest a config ??

 

[RCoon]

Oh, PSU means power supply unit? you are right, i should make my own choice of components here but the problem is I dont know about these components, I have been gaming but didnt get to know the technical stuff and how computers work, I am from india, will you be able to suggest a config ??

Sure, what online retailers are able to ship to you? I'm assuming Flipkart? We also have plenty of rather capable builders here at TPU.

@BarbaricSoul @ne6togadno @peche

 

[himendra]

oh wow, well i was just contacting sellers on phone, buying from an online store seems a bit scary to me, but still i would really appreciate if u can give me a configuration for a CPU, also i wana mention that i already have a DVD rom drive, a keyboard/mouse and a LAN card (from my old pc), can u also give mention the price of the components ??? my budget is 50,000 rs.

i was thinking about buying just a new keyboard and mouse from flipkart though

 

[RCoon]

buying from an online store seems a bit scary to me

It's cheaper than local stores, unless there's a microcenter-type store in Jaipur.

I'm not 100% sure on cost of components and VAT in India, so I'll work on the baseline that 50,000 RS is ~$800

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37vJD3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37vJD3/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($217.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($135.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.45 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 280X 3GB royalQueen Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Total: $813.84

 

[himendra]

oookkk, so from here i should look for all these components in an online store right....hmmm...i havent assembled a cpu myself yet, but i guess that shudnt be so big of a problem,

ok so first ill check online if these parts are available

thanks so much

 

[himendra]

im finding these parts on websites and tallying the prices, but i dont understand why there are 2 storage drives??

Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.45 @ OutletPC)

the second one i can tell by the looks that this would be the main hard drive for the pc, but where does the 'crucial bx100 120gb' come in???

 

[mypg0306]

im finding these parts on websites and tallying the prices, but i dont understand why there are 2 storage drives??

Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.45 @ OutletPC)

the second one i can tell by the looks that this would be the main hard drive for the pc, but where does the 'crucial bx100 120gb' come in???

im finding these parts on websites and tallying the prices, but i dont understand why there are 2 storage drives??

Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ OutletPC)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.45 @ OutletPC)

the second one i can tell by the looks that this would be the main hard drive for the pc, but where does the 'crucial bx100 120gb' come in???

The Crucial BX100 120GB is a SSD (Solid State Drive) which running thru software but not physical platter on standard HDD. Google it. Use this for running windows and you will feel how fast it is on startup, running a program, shut down etc. than HDD.

 

[RCoon]

The Crucial, it's an SSD. Cuts boot times to about 10 seconds, and makes Windows 1000x more responsive. The WD Blue drive is for your data and games etc.

You install Windows + Software (Web browser, office etc) onto the SSD, and then use the HDD for data and game installs.

 

[himendra]

oooohkk i see, i guess this SSD is a new thing coz i didnt hear about it before this,
thanks

 

[RCoon]

oooohkk i see, i guess this SSD is a new thing coz i didnt hear about it before this,
thanks

They've been around for ~3-4 years, but they're becoming quite mainstream now. Well worth starting a fresh build with one, as it makes day to day tasks so much more pleasant.

Just to note, when installing windows on an SSD, keep the other HDD unplugged, otherwise windows dumps a bunch of useless files on it. Install windows to the SSD while the other HDD is unplugged. Once windows has finished installing and you're sat at the desktop screen, turn the machine off and plug the HDD back in. Windows should notice the HDD has appeared and format it.

Doing this means if the HDD ever dies or gets replaced, it won't break your windows installation. If you remove a drive that has those random Windows files on it, it refuses to boot properly.

 

[ne6togadno]

http://www.flipkart.com/
kind of hard to find acceptable quality parts but...

i would hold purchase for few weeks (or at least purchase of graphics cards). new cards coming from amd and there will be price drops for older parts.

 

[himendra]

alright i found some of these parts online, i'll show what i found

They've been around for ~3-4 years, but they're becoming quite mainstream now. Well worth starting a fresh build with one, as it makes day to day tasks so much more pleasant.

Just to note, when installing windows on an SSD, keep the other HDD unplugged, otherwise windows dumps a bunch of useless files on it. Install windows to the SSD while the other HDD is unplugged. Once windows has finished installing and you're sat at the desktop screen, turn the machine off and plug the HDD back in. Windows should notice the HDD has appeared and format it.

Doing this means if the HDD ever dies or gets replaced, it won't break your windows installation. If you remove a drive that has those random Windows files on it, it refuses to boot properly.

i see i see, i will keep this in mind for sure

 

[himendra]

http://www.flipkart.com/
kind of hard to find acceptable quality parts but...
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i would hold purchase for few weeks (or at least purchase of graphics cards). new cards coming from amd and there will be price drops for older parts.

hey man thanks, i guessall the parts listed above are from flipkart only....

i have found these

intel i5- 4690 3.90 gghz ----- 21000 rs (i dont know why so costly)

asus z97- A - ATX LGA 1150 motherboard ----- 11550 rs

g skill ripjaws x ddr3 4 gb (1x4 gb) pc DRAM--- 2,800 rs

western digital caviar blue 7200 RPM HDD 500 gb---3532 rs

hmm but i like some components that you found on the list, the price of intel i5 4690 is too much i wonder if its so much more worth than 3.1 ghz

the basic problem is what makes a buyer choose a particular product while assembling a PC, of course apart from just money what should one look out for??

for now i will watch a video on how to assemble a PC

 

[P4-630]

I would buy a set of 2 ram sticks (minimum of 8GB total) if I were you, so you can run them in dual channel for better performance

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Here is my suggestion-

Differences between @ne6togadno build and my build are, my build has a marginally better processor, his build has a better motherboard.

We both have the same amount of RAM in our builds, but he has a dual channel kit where I have a single stick kit. The reason being for the single stick is that the motherboard I suggested only has 2 slots for RAM. While only having one stick of RAM will eliminate the ability to run the RAM as dual channel, it does allow you to upgrade to 16 GB of RAM in the future, giving you the ability to run dual channel while still being able to continue to use the stick you buy now.

As for power supplies, personally, I'd take a 550 watt Antec over a 430 watt Corsair. Both make quality products.

As far as the case for the computer, well that's more of a personal taste choice. Best bet is to find a couple you like and ask for people experience in using the cases you picked. Then decide exactly which one to get based on your preference and other peoples experience.

Everything else is the same between the builds.

Performance wise, you would not be able to tell a difference between the two, except maybe in running number crunching programs. In which case, mine would be just a little bit faster because of the faster CPU.

Fully agree on waiting a couple weeks for AMD to release their new video cards.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

can you not order through flipkart?

 

[himendra]

I would buy a set of 2 ram sticks (minimum of 8GB total) if I were you, so you can run them in dual channel for better performance

how do i run them in dual channels??

 

[ne6togadno]

hey man thanks, i guessall the parts listed above are from flipkart only....

yes it is what flipkart gives by default. for some of the parts there was better pricing from other suppliers but i dont know em so left to you to descide from where you will by

intel i5- 4690 3.90 gghz ----- 21000 rs (i dont know why so costly)
hmm but i like some components that you found on the list, the price of intel i5 4690 is too much i wonder if its so much more worth than 3.1 ghz

much depens on what games you want to play. can you pls give more info about games you play (or you would like to play) and your monitor resolution

 

[P4-630]

how do i run them in dual channels??

 

[himendra]

can you not order through flipkart?

I can order the parts from flipkart, but the thing is that in india these services are not so reliable, if i get a faulty piece then it will be a huge problem for the consumer himself to get it even checked, i have ordered just games from flipkart till now,

also i got another list from a seller within the city ill post it here

 

[himendra]

yes it is what flipkart gives by default. for some of the parts there was better pricing from other suppliers but i dont know em so left to you to descide from where you will by


much depens on what games you want to play. can you pls give more info about games you play (or you would like to play) and your monitor resolution

ok ill tell what games ill play, call of duty world at war, warcraft 3, DOTA 2, borderlands 2, these games

 

[himendra]

an hey, i wana tell that i have an old CRT monitor that i still want to use for games, resolution wise i also have a 32 inch tv/monitor that i use to play my xbox and ps3 on, it shows 1080p

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I can order the parts from flipkart, but the thing is that in india these services are not so reliable, if i get a faulty piece then it will be a huge problem for the consumer himself to get it even checked, i have ordered just games from flipkart till now,

also i got another list from a seller within the city ill post it here

How about using flipcart to assemble the build, and ordering from each individual site flipcart lists the part from.

All the video cards in that proposal are not adequate for gaming at 1080p