Groove Music gone?

An0maly_76 · Mar 21, 2023

As if Microshaft hadn't squarely secured a special place in hell (and on my sh*tlist) already...

Just when I was getting Groove Music the way I liked it, seems the latest unwanted Win10 update has daintily done away with Groove Music and replaced it with the most god-awful, broken version of Windows Media Player I have ever seen. This thing is beyond POS status.

I had hoped to simply transfer the executable from another system I recently refurbished, but apparently this is not possible. And the app is no longer available from Microshaft's website.

So how do I get it back? CAN I get it back?

This has cemented my resolve to go Linux when I can no longer run W10. I refuse to upgrade to 11. I am fed up with these jackasses wantonly changing things from the way I want them just because they're too stupid to do updates without changing your settings. They turn on what I turned off, turn off what I turn on, now they've deleted an app I liked without even asking me. :mad:

I've considered Ubuntu, but my only concern is that I have yet to see it address an optical drive.

cvaldes · Mar 21, 2023

It's in the Microsoft Store (Windows 10) listed as Windows Media Player.

On Windows 11, this change was made over a year ago.

Goodbye Groove Music: New Media Player rolls out to Windows 11

You can start 2022 with the new Media Player for Windows 11.

www.windowscentral.com

The old Groove Music player is dead.

If you don't like the new Media Player, try a third party alternative like WinAmp or Foobar2000. Even VLC Player can handle basic audio files.

Best of luck.

P4-630 · Mar 21, 2023

Another good option is https://www.winamp.com/

An0maly_76 · Mar 21, 2023

cvaldes said:
It's in the Microsoft Store (Windows 10) listed as Windows Media Player.

On Windows 11, this change was made over a year ago.

Goodbye Groove Music: New Media Player rolls out to Windows 11

You can start 2022 with the new Media Player for Windows 11.

www.windowscentral.com

The old Groove Music player is dead.

If you don't like the new Media Player, try a third party alternative like WinAmp or Foobar2000. Even VLC Player can handle basic audio files.

Best of luck.

I was aware it was coming with Win11, I just didn't know it was being forced on Win10 users. By some dumb luck, I found an older version to download. It's forcing listing by #, A, B, C, D, E... etc, which I don't like, but at least it works and it's better than this POS they replaced it with. Any ideas how to get rid the #, A, B, C, D, E BS?

Being autistic, I'm aware that things like this irritate me far more than they do the average person, but seriously, this is not cool.

P4-630 said:
Another good option is https://www.winamp.com/

Oh, I loved WinAmp back in the day, I just wasn't aware that it would work with Win10.

cvaldes · Mar 21, 2023

An0maly_76 said:
I was aware it was coming with Win11, I just didn't know it was being forced on Win10 users. By some dumb luck, I found an older version to download. It's forcing listing by #, A, B, C, D, E... etc, which I don't like, but at least it works and it's better than this POS they replaced it with. Any ideas how to get rid the #, A, B, C, D, E BS?

I have no idea. I use my Mac to manage my music collection.

Oh, I loved WinAmp back in the day, I just wasn't aware that it would work with Win10.

Most apps that run on Windows 11 also work on Windows 10. First of all, Windows 11 isn't that different under the hood. Second, there are *WAY* more Windows 10 systems on the planet than Windows 11 systems. It makes zero sense for a software developer to write a general purpose application like WinAmp only for Windows 11.

Besides, the current version of WinAmp has been in development way longer than Windows 11 has actually been out.

An0maly_76 · Mar 21, 2023

cvaldes said:
Most apps that run on Windows 11 also work on Windows 10. First of all, Windows 11 isn't that different under the hood. Second, there are *WAY* more Windows 10 systems on the planet than Windows 11 systems. It makes zero sense for a software developer to write a general purpose application like WinAmp only for Windows 11.

Besides, the current version of WinAmp has been in development way longer than Windows 11 has actually been out.

I guess I should have clarified that I thought WinAmp had died out between XP / 7 / 8. Wasn't aware it was still around.

GerKNG · Mar 21, 2023

i personally prefer musicbee over foobar and winamp.
it has a lot of cool features, automatically creates a itunes like library for you after dragging your whole music folder in it and it even can download album covers with one click.

cvaldes · Mar 21, 2023

An0maly_76 said:
I guess I should have clarified that I thought WinAmp had died out between XP / 7 / 8. Wasn't aware it was still around.

Development of the desktop client was revived by a new team about five years ago. Their initial plan was to release software in 2019 but that didn't happen. Finally they released their first update last year:

Winamp, the best MP3 player of the 1990s, just got a major update

9 RC1 Build 1999 focuses on modernizing Winamp’s foundation for more features.

arstechnica.com

You are free to use an Internet search engine (yeah, one of those things old-timers used 10 years ago) and search for "Windows music player" to locate suitable applications. Almost all of them are free.

Super Firm Tofu · Mar 21, 2023

Another option if you liked WinAmp is Audacious.

Audacious - An Advanced Audio Player

audacious-media-player.org

It has the classic WinAmp appearance option if you like, and can even use WinAmp skins for that 90's kinda look

It's also included with most Linux distros (or in the repositories) so if you do decide to move to Linux later, all of your playlists you set up will transfer right over.

Space Lynx · Mar 21, 2023

I use FooBar 2000 or w.e it is called. Surprised no one mentioned it yet.

1freedude · Mar 22, 2023

2nd post mentions FB2k

And @An0maly_76 try Linux Mint instead of Ubuntu. I personally have not used it as a media player, but I have used it for more intense* applications, and I like it. But I can't compare it to Ubuntu, because I've never intalled Ubuntu

Look for Patriot Burst SSD. Super cheap, but good to mess around with other OSes while saving your main Win 10 drive.

Space Lynx said:
I use FooBar 2000 or w.e it is called. Surprised no one mentioned it yet.

*keep an eye out for a post in the VR/AR section

caroline! · Mar 22, 2023

I've got "Music Player" in 10 as well and I find it similar to the old one, I only have one complaint: whenever you go into playlists and click play on any of them it'll always play the 1st song instead of picking a random one if you have shuffle enabled.

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Groove Music gone?

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