How good is a Xeon E5 1680 V2 compared to modern CPU's?

[Jeelo]

How good is a Xeon E5 1680 V2 compared to modern CPU's?

 

[dgianstefani]

Not great.

 

[Jeelo]

What Decently modern cpu would it compare to?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Not great.

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Those 80% are quite generous to the Xeon and on this benchmark alone, I'd say. I have a 4669 v3 which loses most threaded benchmarks against my laptop's Ryzen 5 5600H, except on Cinebench (where it's 20% faster leveraging all of its 36 threads). Single-core is a bloodbath, a 13900KS's P-core must be at least 10 times faster than a 2.4GHz Haswell-E.

What Decently modern cpu would it compare to?

It's slower than a Ryzen 5 1600 (1st generation Zen). That Ryzen CPU has about the same performance of the i7-5930K. The Ivy Bridge Xeon you've mentioned is actually around the same as the i7-4820K, but with slower clock speeds.

 

[Jeelo]

How about in gaming? is it the same?

 

[Dr. Dro]

How about in gaming? is it the same?

No. It is much slower. This is an old server platform. If you are looking to build a gaming system on the cheap, then I would suggest doing some part hunting and buying a budget AM4 motherboard and a similarly priced Ryzen processor from Aliexpress. If you look, you can probably build a PC with an A520 motherboard, a Ryzen 5 5600 and 32GB of RAM for like $200 and it would outperform that 11-year-old Ivy Bridge server several times over.

 

[Jeelo]

oh ok

 

[unwind-protect]

Normally the strength of a Xeon is that you can use lots of (registered) RAM and have many PCIe lanes. But the E5-1xxx chips are for desktop sockets and offer neither. The only advantage is that it can run ECC memory in the right board. Good for a small fileserver or some security relevant system.

 

[Toothless]

Wow, some of the answers in here. Shame.

You can overclock it to match a 1700x or 1800x as long as you have a good enough board. The 16xxV2 line is unlocked.

I've gotten mine to sit at 4.4ghz all core pretty easily. It'll still hold up decently well in games.

 

[dgianstefani]

Wow, some of the answers in here. Shame.

You can overclock it to match a 1700x or 1800x as long as you have a good enough board. The 16xxV2 line is unlocked.

I've gotten mine to sit at 4.4ghz all core pretty easily. It'll still hold up decently well in games.

Even with that it's still half as powerful per core than something like a 13600K, draws lots of power for not much speed, plus the boards won't have M.2 slots or Gen 4 PCIe, or modern IO.

Dead platform, don't put money into it.

 

[QuietBob]

In general use the E5-1680 v2 is comparable with the Ryzen 7 1700. They are both 8c/16t SKUs with similar single- and multithreaded performance:



However, the Xeon lacks the AVX2 instruction set which some apps take advantage of, and a number of games actually require it. For a budget gaming build, the i3-12100F/13100F or the Ryzen 5 5600/X are much better choices.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Shortest op I believe in TPU history

Depends on budget and hardware availability
This xeon in the title only lol if oc'ed is right at 16 e-core frequency yeah not very impressive but if that is the gear you can get cheaply then there it is

 

[Deleted member 185158]

None of the comparison examples are geared towards a Xeon workstation or server.

Maybe IceLake Xeon Silver would be a better comparison???

 

[Deleted member 57642]

Even a budget CPU from last generation - like Intel Core i3-12100F (which is less than 100 $) - is not fair to be compared with a Xeon E5 1680 V2 - cause of how big the difference is.

 

[Toothless]

Even with that it's still half as powerful per core than something like a 13600K, draws lots of power for not much speed, plus the boards won't have M.2 slots or Gen 4 PCIe, or modern IO.

Dead platform, don't put money into it.

For performance? Sure, don't buy new stuff that's already old. However if OP already has it or to just play around with? Def worth it.

 

[sLowEnd]

Not the same CPU in this video here, but it should give you an idea of how old Intel HEDT chips compare to something more modern like a 5600X in games. The gist of it is, you can expect many games to be playable, but it's clearly worse than newer chips.

For doing actual work, results are harder to find, but it's definitely going to be less power efficient than modern CPUs.

 

[unwind-protect]

Not the same CPU in this video here, but it should give you an idea of how old Intel HEDT chips compare to something more modern like a 5600X. The gist of it is, you can expect many games to be playable, but it's clearly worse than newer chips.

The E5-1xxx v2 is not a HEDT chip, though. Except for ECC support it is equivalent to the desktop CPUs.

 

[sLowEnd]

The E5-1xxx v2 is not a HEDT chip, though. Except for ECC support it is equivalent to the desktop CPUs.

It's a pretty close analogue to the 4930K in the video

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ark.intel.com

I wouldn't expect the 2 extra cores on the Xeon to provide a large performance benefit in most games.

 

[mb194dc]

Depends on what you're doing with it. Doesn't have AVX2 I think which could limit it.

For some use cases it'll be fine though.

 

[Toothless]

It's a pretty close analogue to the 4930K in the video

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ark.intel.com

I wouldn't expect the 2 extra cores on the Xeon to provide a large performance benefit in most games.

Those Xeons are basically the HEDT cousins with ECC. Like a E5-1650 is a 3930k. Had the 1680v2 in a guest desktop with a 1070 for a long while and ran perfectly fine too.

 

[bobbybluz]

I have two E5 1680 V2 rigs (one parked at the moment). Overclocked to 4.5-4.7GHz they're very close to a 5960X running at the same speed. The quad channel memory combined with eight cores makes them surprising viable for non-gaming use today. Of course my Alder Lake rigs destroy them in performance but then again how good will Alder Lake/Raptor Lake be in 10-11 years from now?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Wow, some of the answers in here. Shame.

You can overclock it to match a 1700x or 1800x as long as you have a good enough board. The 16xxV2 line is unlocked.

I've gotten mine to sit at 4.4ghz all core pretty easily. It'll still hold up decently well in games.

An overclocked to the brim i7-5960X will barely match a 1800X, Ivy Bridge parts have no chance. Not even the 18-core v3 parts will perform anywhere close to an average Zen 2 CPU at games. Needless to say the v2 parts will leave much to be desired.

The E5-1xxx v2 is not a HEDT chip, though. Except for ECC support it is equivalent to the desktop CPUs.

They very much are HEDT chips, it's the E3 line that's equivalent to regular desktop chips (i7-3770K and cutdown variants)

 

[Toothless]

An overclocked to the brim i7-5960X will barely match a 1800X, Ivy Bridge parts have no chance. Not even the 18-core v3 parts will perform anywhere close to an average Zen 2 CPU at games. Needless to say the v2 parts will leave much to be desired.



They very much are HEDT chips, it's the E3 line that's equivalent to regular desktop chips (i7-3770K and cutdown variants)

Okay well I've done R23 and CPUz benches and in fact the 1680v2 clocked up does match or come close. The chip and board is literally on my shelf right now. You seem to keep forgetting that there was very little IPC improvement for a long time with Intel.

Also my 6900k will compete with a 1800x either way with a small overclock if that was what locking turbo is called. You do you dude.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Okay well I've done R23 and CPUz benches and in fact the 1680v2 clocked up does match or come close. The chip and board is literally on my shelf right now. You seem to keep forgetting that there was very little IPC improvement for a long time with Intel.

Also my 6900k will compete with a 1800x either way with a small overclock if that was what locking turbo is called. You do you dude.

I mean, from Ivy Bridge to Broadwell there's probably 25% of raw IPC, plus AVX2 support, DDR4's larger bandwidth, optimized cache architecture etc. all piled on top. It's reasonable to say that you could even have fun with them if you already own a nice X79 motherboard, but OP is likely interested in buying a Chinese kit from Aliexpress that comes with a recycled mainboard and used server spare chip. They're pretty popular at a budget end, despite all the shortcomings mentioned by @dgianstefani. Anyway, here's my personal 4669 v3's R23 benchmated score. It's limited in clock speed and it's locked, so what you see is what you get, pretty much.

Leveraging all 36 threads it's gonna get spanked by any 5600X out there in multithreaded and it's gonna get murdered by pretty much anything single-thread.

 

[phill]

Everything I think is relative, I mean how old a CPU is you have to take it as it is.

All depends on what your doing. Sure efficiencies and such like will always be better with newer hardware, but if your using something that's not the latest and greatest but its doing everything you need it too and doing it well, I'm not sure there's much reason or rhyme to worry about something that's newer and therefore going to be better and more efficient to say the least

I guess the real reason is, how well something has aged possibly?? That all depends on what your doing more so with the hardware....