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i7-9750H - Throttlestop - Universal Tuning Utility { Comparing - Unexpected differences }

Jon3s

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Throttlestop is a superb tool to undervolt. Used a long time in Win10, now Win 11 for whatever reason not the same results as in Win 10 but still really good compared to stock settings.

I have used the Universal Tuning Utility on the machine from somene as the have a AMD CPU. Justy out of curiosity i installed it also on my Noteebook.

Dont have presets and so on i just set W to max 45 and C to max 91.

When i start the TS Bench i get 2to3 c less temp but the W usage is 13 W higher.

Now i am really clueless how that can happen as for me that also not make much sense that it is cooler with 13W higher consumption.

Anyone has an Idea ?
 

unclewebb

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for whatever reason not the same results as in Win 10
ThrottleStop should give the exact same results in Windows 10 or Windows 11. When using ThrottleStop in Windows 11, you have to disable Windows core isolation memory integrity and anything else VBS related. Follow the VBS link in my signature to learn more.

If you have any problems with ThrottleStop, post screenshots of the FIVR and TPL windows. That will show me if VBS is disabled or not and if ThrottleStop is working correctly or not. It is impossible for ThrottleStop to interact with the voltage control register if VBS is left enabled.

Universal Tuning Utility
I have never used this on an Intel CPU. Most users have reported great results when using ThrottleStop on their 9750H CPUs so I would recommend using that.

i just set W to max 45
A 9750H needs 60W, 70W or 80W for maximum performance. When setting lower power limits, performance can decrease. Use Cinebench R23 when testing for consistent and repeatable results.

 

Jon3s

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Thank you for this fast reply.

I did not go really into details as there maybe was something explaining where the W difference and the strange difference in W comes from.

To make it a bit clearer what i meant, Throttlestop works as it did with WIn10 after Setup WIn11 correctly for it.

Just the result is different for me, means, the System gets more hot then before in all the same conditions and so on.
Didnt found a reason or a solution. Thats why i just wanted to try the other tool.

So there is absolute no Issue with Throttlestop. After using the Config filesd from WIn10 i just dont get the same result in Win11 and could not really make the correct adjustments.
I try to run the System as cool as possible at the highest possible performance.

Maybe you can find something i can or have to change so i will document my Setup and what i ment with the thermal difference tothe other tool.
Screenshots explaining it better then i could i guess.

* I have to say, i dont really need to run the CPU at absolute max as the Notebook ( DellGS5500 is not really designed to cool really good, i changed every possible point with new thermal paste and thermal pads )

My Throttlestop Settings : Those run the CPU with max 3800Mhz at max 91c and 55.1W without any error or alarms : ( GPU and CPU sharing the cooling System / copperplate )

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Idling / Video in Browser

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The GPU undervolted and overclocked GTX 1650 at max 1770MHz @ 0.756mV

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Im not sure about that the temperature goes up and down at same cpu load and i cant see always a correlation, not sure how to explain..
Compared to stock im super happy, it was unusable the system. The GPU, i think i got lucky with the possible seeting i can run this thing at those temperatures.


- is it normal, even in idle that the frequenzy jumps alot ?
- on the other hand the frequency often stays ast 37xx even the load is only around 5-10%


i tried to recreate what i had tested with the other tool, impossible. Now i got only really bad results for some reason... Not sure if it interferes or reads the settings from Throttlestop.
If you can find anything to optimize, that would be awesome.

Thank you for your time !
 

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