I'm going to try Windows Vista again.

[zekrahminator]

Yeah, subject line says all...but seriously. Last time I tried Vista, it was very nice, but I wanted to go back to XP and it wouldn't let me. So I booted into linux (Gparted liveCD.) and deleted the Vista partition . Anyways, so I don't have to go through THAT again, I would like to know a couple things about Vista. I'll just list them...1- How do I enable the run command (like start-run.)? 2- How do I go about uninstalling Vista without the help of linux? 3- How do I dual-boot XP and Vista? Thanks guys.

 

[zekrahminator]

Bump.

 

[strick94u]

I dont like the way Microsoft does their Beta testing after my last experiance with the xp beta screw them let them messup someone else's box. good luck with your project but I would think there is no way xp/vista will dual boot just becuase they want your whole pc your 200 dollars and your soul

 

[zekrahminator]

I'm betting a quick "fixboot" on the XP CD will work just fine, and if it doesn't? Linux to the rescue . I'll certainly have fun figuring out how to get everything to work, I was just hoping for some pointers. 64% done downloading the 64bit version right now. Oh yeah and I think Microsoft is just in it for the money.

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

hrm... what i might recommend is maybe loading two different harddrives, one with xp, one with vista. you should be able to select which one to boot off in bios. i haven't been able to get it both to work on one drive (multi partitions, etc). this works, but i'm using ide and cable select for drive priority, so maybe SATA is different, but i don't think so. good luck!

 

[strick94u]

or use 2 computers and just hit the on button
sorry sometimes I'm a dip

 

[zekrahminator]

hrm... what i might recommend is maybe loading two different harddrives, one with xp, one with vista. you should be able to select which one to boot off in bios. i haven't been able to get it both to work on one drive (multi partitions, etc). this works, but i'm using ide and cable select for drive priority, so maybe SATA is different, but i don't think so. good luck!

You know, I had that exact same thought when I was deleting my Vista partition the last time . I downloaded the 64bit DVD no troubles (except for when I was coming out of standby, the download froze, but no biggie. All I had to do was restart download.), it's burned on a DVD, and I'll try it out soon. And after I install Vista I'm going to be running "fixboot" off of the XP CD . I'll let you know how this works out. Oh yeah and PVTCaboose1337, thank you so much for that Gparted link .

 

[zekrahminator]

Okay, apparently the DVD I downloaded came with some missing files. Oh joy. I'm all out of DVD's and I have to download this thing AGAIN. I don't think that it's really worth it any more...oh well. I'll update this thread if I ever get Vista to run.

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

that's a huge bummer!

a good idea to save DVDs i just started using after some iso's weren't downloaded correctly from certain places... is to use winrar (free version) and explore the iso and see if any files are 0kb in size. if so, it probably won't work. not true of all files tho, i dont' know what's on the vista one ( i figured this out after i installed it) but sometimes ini files are 0kb because they get data written into them once they transfer over. why they don't have it create the file is beyond me, but a heads up!

or mounting the image of some dvd's (not vista prolly) will see if it at least autoruns!

on a side note, i think it's a gip to make people pay 6 bucks to beta test for them. this is part of R&D, and microsoft can handle the money more than the bad feeling amongst us harder core computer users!

 

[zekrahminator]

I got more DVD's! Now lets see if I can download all of the Vista beta 2 ISO before my router resets again . And then we'll see if it'll install. And if I'm lucky, I'll get to modify the bootloader so that I can dual-boot Vista and XP...in other words, I can keep myself occupied lol. Oh yeah and I got a very similar 3Dmark05 record, mustang_man...6889 on 605/605.

 

[Jimmy 2004]

Didn't like vista - not enought driver support so I could connect to my wireless network and the bootloader didn't display properly on my monitor. Looked nice though.

 

[zekrahminator]

Vista x64 and firefox download manager don't like each other, and when I try to pause the download (solves the issue), I'm betting I lose some data. So I'm downloading the x86 version now. Should have better driver support anyways .

 

[zekrahminator]

ULTRA EXTREME UPDATE: I not only got 32 Bit Windows Vista up and running, I am TRIPLE BOOTING! Windows Vista, Windows XP, and Windows 2000. I need linux lol...I'll set up drivers later tonight or tomorrow. I'm sleepy .

 

[strick94u]

ULTRA EXTREME UPDATE: I not only got 32 Bit Windows Vista up and running, I am TRIPLE BOOTING! Windows Vista, Windows XP, and Windows 2000. I need linux lol...I'll set up drivers later tonight or tomorrow. I'm sleepy .

dude its obsessed people like you that keep this crazy world going
remember to write it all down so we too can benifit from your pain

 

[GLD]

IDK if this is relevant, but I noticed this link is no longer up on Microsoft, for a second choice in a free Vista compatible anti-virus program. It is free and good for a whole year, or basically the duration of the beta 2 Vista: http://www3.ca.com/press/PressRelease.aspx?CID=88876

Im trying out Vista beta 2 on a 32bit Athlon XP system with a 5200 ultra. It gives me the AERO and looks pretty sweet.

 

[zekrahminator]

dude its obsessed people like you that keep this crazy world going
remember to write it all down so we too can benifit from your pain

Of course lol. To get dual-boot going, you have to already be dual booting with XP and something else. That way, when Vista is installed and it modifies the bootloader, if will have to make room for whatever previous operating systems you have. Oh yeah and to get all your drivers to install...stick your driver CD in, try to install, watch the installation fail, close installer, windows will tell you "it didn't install right!" and prompt wheter you want to install using "reccomended settings." Click the reccomended settings, try again, and then you're done. If you have to, go into device manager and uninstall the hardware, reboot, and then install it when windows starts. Oh yeah and remember...the little power button in the start menu is NOT a "turn off" button...it's a sleep button. And Vista's sleep is a bit buggy, gave me quite a scare lol. It turned off my hard disks and left the rest of my system on . Oh yeah and to all you people who are saying Vista is going to suck...the only sucky part about it is that network setup is insanely hard (can't share files between Aegis and Darth Flatulence). But other then that and a few driver issues, everything is fine.

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

congrats Zek! I'm having the same issues with my wireless as Jimmy. I have the drivers, but they don't work, and i haven't checked the web to find vista compatible drivers.

Inorder to dual boot, i just formatted a drive (I had an extra) and disconnected the others while i loaded vista. Then, shut down, then plugged my other drives back in. I only dual boot, but it's cool

sidenote/vista related: i woke up this morning after having vista on all night, and turned on my monitor. OH CRAP! monitor blank! quick look over to my debug LEDs on my mobo (first time used to diagnosis! woohoot!) and they read F1! FF means normal, ie anything other than FF means FUCK! so i whip out my mobo manual to find out what the code means, flipping through pages so fast trying to figure out what this beta did to my super awesome computer that i live by! just as i find that no code in the manual matches F1, and i feel about as bad as ever, i look up, and vista is resuming from sleep. goddamnit. i feel n00b3d. not as h4X0R as i thought....

haha. i think vista shouldn't have sleep be automatically set, is the main point of this story. haha

 

[Jimmy 2004]

congrats Zek! I'm having the same issues with my wireless as Jimmy. I have the drivers, but they don't work, and i haven't checked the web to find vista compatible drivers.

Inorder to dual boot, i just formatted a drive (I had an extra) and disconnected the others while i loaded vista. Then, shut down, then plugged my other drives back in. I only dual boot, but it's cool

sidenote/vista related: i woke up this morning after having vista on all night, and turned on my monitor. OH CRAP! monitor blank! quick look over to my debug LEDs on my mobo (first time used to diagnosis! woohoot!) and they read F1! FF means normal, ie anything other than FF means FUCK! so i whip out my mobo manual to find out what the code means, flipping through pages so fast trying to figure out what this beta did to my super awesome computer that i live by! just as i find that no code in the manual matches F1, and i feel about as bad as ever, i look up, and vista is resuming from sleep. goddamnit. i feel n00b3d. not as h4X0R as i thought....

haha. i think vista shouldn't have sleep be automatically set, is the main point of this story. haha

Lol, you should have tried moving the mouse first!

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

Lol, you should have tried moving the mouse first!

haha, i know!!
i feel stupid, but not as stupid if vista beta had f'ed my machine!

 

[Jimmy 2004]

haha, i know!!
i feel stupid, but not as stupid if vista beta had f'ed my machine!

I know that feeling when you suddenly think your PC has died even thought you thought it was stable, only to find it was something very stupid. I expect we've all been there before.

 

[zekrahminator]

Yeah, Vista kinda has its bugs...I tried pressing the button that looked like "off" (really was sleep.), and my hard drive shut off. The rest of my PC stayed on though . Gave me quite a scare lol.

 

[zekrahminator]

My personal opinion on windows vista- Very pretty, however, it could certainly use some better driver support, I would love to install my programs WITHOUT betting a bluescreen, and I don't know why it won't auto-install my USB printer. Reccomended system requirements (according to me)- 1GB system memory, fast GPU with no less then 256MB graphics memory, a dual core processor, and a 20GB hard drive. Anything less then that, and games WILL NOT RUN.

 

[Jimmy 2004]

Dual Core?

 

[zekrahminator]

Yeah, Vista is LOADED with background processes, and I think Vista actually knows how to use dual-core processors. You have one core to process all the OS stuff, and you have the other to process stuff like games. At least, it had BETTER be that way, I'm going to get myself an X2 in July or August.

 

[zekrahminator]

Vista screenshot.