Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: Better Than AMD’s Ryzen 9 3950X

erek · Nov 25, 2019

"Intel has done the right thing in cutting prices and the reality is that even though the Ryzen 9 3950X is a stunning processor, the Core i9-10980XE still beats it in plenty of tests and it's huge overclocking headroom means it leapfrogs the otherwise dominant AMD CPU in areas it's weak in at stock speed. This is assuming your average retail sample overclocks better than your typcial Core i9-9980XE as mine did - that's something only time will tell and is something to bare in mind. "

Intel Core i9-10980XE Review: Better Than AMD’s Ryzen 9 3950X?

Is Intel's new Core i9-10980XE better than AMD's Ryzen 9 3950X?

www.forbes.com

phill · Nov 25, 2019

With 2 extra cores and 4 threads, you'd expect it to be a little faster to be honest... That said, it's still more expensive than AMD's 3950X which whilst amazing value you will need to factor in more expensive hardware on top of the CPU costs, such as quad channel ram and a more expensive motherboard. I'd have thought also more exotic cooling as well but either way, it's good to see a bit of competition with AMD's finest

Tomgang · Nov 25, 2019

10980XE is not a slow cpu and beats 3950X in some cases. But already at stock is consumes around 100 watt more than 3950X and cost around 230 USD + taxes over 3950X. And then over clock to around 4.6 ghz all core it consumes over 400 watt yikes. So all in all my choise is still ryzen 9 3950X. Also 10980XE still only has pcie gen 3. For not to forget the over all more price for motherboard and quad-channel memory. Also coming from an old I7 980x to a Ryzen 9 3950X shut provide plenty of power for my needs cheaper and less power hungry than a 10980XE build would cost me.

I have so far only read guru3d review and that is where I have these numbers from as well.

Bones · Nov 25, 2019

Same here, the 3950x is the better buy between the two overall for what you get from how much you pay.
Cheaper all around and put up some decent numbers to boot with this testing as shown.

All the extra cost of setting up an i9 system based on this chip/socket too figures in as pointed out - For the average joe shmo, AMD here is the better value overall.

Melvis · Nov 25, 2019

I wouldnt say its better honestly, from that review it doesnt look that impressive at all over the 3950X in fact im pretty sure the 3950X beats it more then it losses? and that Adobe result is just a bit off from other reviews ive seen.

phill · Nov 25, 2019

Tomgang said:
10980XE is not a slow cpu and beats 3950X in some cases. But already at stock is consumes around 100 watt more than 3950X and cost around 230 USD + taxes over 3950X. And then over clock to around 4.6 ghz all core it consumes over 400 watt yikes. So all in all my choise is still ryzen 9 3950X. Also 10980XE still only has pcie gen 3. For not to forget the over all more price for motherboard and quad-channel memory. Also coming from an old I7 980x to a Ryzen 9 3950X shut provide plenty of power for my needs cheaper and less power hungry than a 10980XE build would cost me.

I have so far only read guru3d review and that is where I have these numbers from as well.

Raw clock speed and more cores will give it some extra grunt for sure, but as pointed out the power consumption is crazy, could nearly about run two 3950's and have some watts to spare...

AMD still gets my vote, Intel haven't really released anything here of any value or interest aside from a cheaper X299 CPU that they could have done in the beginning but have been more so forced to do so now. That said, my X299 Dark might have something else to use instead of the 7980XE I was thinking about.. Hopefully the second hand values of the 79xx and 99xx series will drop like a stone...

Deleted member 178884 · Nov 25, 2019

Amazing CPU, much better buy in my opinion, if you're that into AMD look into a 3900X or threadripper instead.

Xzibit · Nov 25, 2019

LTT: Intel’s behavior is PATHETIC – Core i9 10980XE Review

Linus has a sneek peak at ThreadRipper in the video.

ratirt · Nov 25, 2019

According to Guru3D it's not better and these CPUs have 2 additional cores over the 3950X Ryzen. It is competing against 3950x which is way cheaper. $750 for 3950x vs $980 for 10980XE and that is a lot.

Intel Core i9 10980XE processor review

In this article, we'll review the all-new 18-core Core i9 10980XE from Intel. Despite many announcements, this is the most versatile (in cores) HEDT processor for the consumer market from intel, th... Final Words & Conclusion

www.guru3d.com

dj-electric · Nov 25, 2019

That time pullback was really something to behold. The performance of the chip itself is not "bad", just "meh". This is still an 18 core CPU that can be brought past 4.5Ghz without much effort.
GN's review gives a more technical perspective on its actual performance, which is most cases is still sub 999$-leading.

Somewhere though, i really wish it would be even cheaper, -100$ extra to get it to 899$ would have sweetened the deal for some that are seeking a CPU for certain tasks that the 10980XE do good.
While not having PCIE 4.0, the X299 with these 48-lane CPUs is still connectivity rich. There's still just plenty of stuff that can be connected at the same time, so its not an unreasonable argument. Even some X299 board prices came down lately.

silentbogo · Nov 25, 2019

Lol, it's f#$%ing Forbes, which not only pisses me off by adblock nagging, but is also not quite competent in tech reviews.
They are comparing AMD's highest mainstream offering to Intel's highest HEDT offering both in terms of performance and I/O, but when it comes to price - they are quick to fall back to comparing it to Threadripper 2. What a f#$%g joke.

On the serious note - Intel is definitely having its bulldozer moment. Moar cores, moar clockz, moar powa-a-a while barely catching up with competitors previous gen offerings....
9980XE was smacked and laughed at by nearly all tech reviewers, and this is just take #2 of the same story.

PerfectWave · Nov 25, 2019

just wait the 3960X review

ratirt · Nov 25, 2019

PerfectWave said:
just wait the 3960X review

Yeah. I'd like to see some cool numbers 'cause this 10980 doesn't offer much though

R0H1T · Nov 25, 2019

Speaking of TR, when're the reviews gonna be posted :confused:

ratirt · Nov 25, 2019

R0H1T said:
Speaking of TR, when're the reviews gonna be posted

Probably Guru3d. I always look there first. I don't think TPU will be reviewing the threadripper on its launch? Unless I'm wrong.

oxrufiioxo · Nov 25, 2019

Gamersnexus video will be up at 6am pst I believe for TR.

Tomgang · Nov 25, 2019

phill said:
Raw clock speed and more cores will give it some extra grunt for sure, but as pointed out the power consumption is crazy, could nearly about run two 3950's and have some watts to spare...

AMD still gets my vote, Intel haven't really released anything here of any value or interest aside from a cheaper X299 CPU that they could have done in the beginning but have been more so forced to do so now. That said, my X299 Dark might have something else to use instead of the 7980XE I was thinking about.. Hopefully the second hand values of the 79xx and 99xx series will drop like a stone...

Yeah until Intel can provide 10 nm for desktop, don't expect anything ekstra ordanary from them.

This round i bet my money on ryzen 9 3950X and also what just had been said about zen 3, ryzen 4000 cut also be a interesting choise to upgrade later to maybe with IPC gain of 15 % according to amd them self and if that is true, they are gonna be pretty darn close to intels 10 nm claimed 18 % IPC gain as well.

No doubt this round amd line up just seems more appealing to me. Cheaper, less power hungry, cheaper boards/memory config and 3950X seems to be a really good all around cpu for people that games and editing, making animation and so on.

W1zzard · Nov 25, 2019

ratirt said:
I don't think TPU will be reviewing the threadripper on its launch? Unless I'm wrong.

Nope, no Threadripper sample from AMD.. the usual, we have so few samples, we have to give to the german-language media

TheLostSwede · Nov 25, 2019

W1zzard said:
Nope, no Threadripper sample from AMD.. the usual, we have so few samples, we have to give to the german-language media

Same old story...
I don't get the fact that after 15+ years of international online publications (does anyone even buy computer magazines any more?) these companies still haven't worked out how to sample products to that market...

Also, why did Linus get one? I bet he would need help to just put it in the motherboard...

Vya Domus · Nov 25, 2019

600W once overclocked is astonishing, their 14nm node has been pushed so far out of it's optimal power envelope it's downright ridiculous. I don't think there has ever been such a wide gap in terms of efficiency and to think AMD was once the subject to all of the "hot and power hungry" jokes and memes.

Frick · Nov 25, 2019

From the reviews I've seen the 3950x is better overall, and a reviewer on Sweclockers has hinted that TR3 is a HEDT game changer, which may be why Intel pulled back review publication time (midnight instead of whatever).

ratirt · Nov 25, 2019

Vya Domus said:
600W once overclocked is astonishing, their 14nm node has been pushed so far out of it's optimal power envelope it's downright ridiculous. I don't think there has ever been such a wide gap in terms of efficiency and to think AMD was once the subject to all of the "hot and power hungry" jokes and memes.

Yeah. it is amazing how things turned out

Who would've thought that AMD will be the energy efficient one. Mind blowing

Other thing is, I understand cherry picked benchmarks (kinda understand) but cherry picked products you compare others too? The title of this thread says a lot in that regard since the 10980XE is not a competitor to the 3950x.
600W is a lot for just a CPU. My entire system draws less.

GreiverBlade · Nov 25, 2019

woaaahhh a "HEDT" 18c/36t is faster than a "Mainstream" 16c/32t? who knews? ...
nonetheless ... not impressively faster, as some mentioned, i thought it would be a little faster than that ... specially for the price difference that doesn't get justified by 2c/4t more
all i draw from that article is that the 3950X is better option (although the offer from Intel is not bad either ... just .... not appealing at all)

funny in the article one argument was "This will potentially give it an advantage over AMD's 3rd Gen Threadripper CPUs, which require new motherboards. Not only this, but X299 motherboards are cheaper than I expect their TRX40 chipset counterparts to be."
humpf ... why would a HEDT from Intel be compared to a HEDT from AMD when the one from Intel justcompete with the mainstream line from AMD?

Xx Tek Tip xX said:
Amazing CPU, much better buy in my opinion,

eh? and in what aspect? price is horrible (280$ more is not justified in that case) , performance gap is meh (and with 2c/4t more ... make it less impressive ) power consumption is not on his side and Intel will probably f!ck up you OC later with a microcode update via WU ... (well ... it does feel like the K on my i5-6600K was a "temporary rental" ... ) well there is still the memory bandwidth advantage...

although in a the article results that HEDT CPU is barely above a Mainstream CPU... a better buy for sure ... (well ... it seems Forbes and some, considere a few seconds less a few FPS more to be an abyssal gap )

W1zzard said:
Nope, no Threadripper sample from AMD.. the usual, we have so few samples, we have to give to the german-language media

that's kinda stupid from them ... German? seriously?

W1zzard · Nov 25, 2019

GreiverBlade said:
German? seriously?

I'm physically located in Germany, but write in English

GreiverBlade · Nov 25, 2019

W1zzard said:
I'm physically located in Germany, but write in English

well i am of French mother language but Intel Apple Google and many other big names, think that since i am Swiss ... my main language should be German even tho in the preference for newsletter it's set to English or French ...

aherm ... uh.. nope i mentioned stupid because of "we have to give to the german-language media" ... "computer Bild" is still a big shot in the computer press?

TheLostSwede said:
(does anyone even buy computer magazines any more?)/QUOTE]
i do sometime ...

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