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It appears intel is facing lots of returns due to 13th/14th gen fiasco.

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Like I said before everything.... Driver crash, CTD, BSOD, will be blamed on the intel cpu now. The part that is usually the last one somebody suspects is the culprit.
 
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Like I said before everything.... Driver crash, CTD, BSOD, will be blamed on the intel cpu now. The part that is usually the last one somebody suspects is the culprit.
Sure, most likely. And those will be send back. Will make the life even harder for those that actually have issues as their RMA storage will flood with CPUs.
Maybe Intel shouldn't let board vendors push its products over nominal operation so that they can be on the chart side by side with AMD.
They should've stayed 2nd for this round.

I cannot believe that the great Intel (was...is, its upon debate right now) didnt know about the elevated voltages for so long since 13th gen.
To me it was a bet that has been lost.

When nVidia is coming out publicly and blaming Intel for GPU driver crashes (and other companies too for other reasons) then the issue is real and way beyond the regular failure rate that all products have.
My first 5900X was defective and RMAed. It happens everywhere yes. But this is something else.
In TPU maybe there are not many (if any) examples because I take it that people in here know what they're doing.
But of course these matters should not be left to the hands of the users. Any chip designer should first protect the longevity/reliability of its products with safety features that are actually enabled and not just on paper/specs.

They brought this to themselves alone
 

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The part that is usually the last one somebody suspects is the culprit.
Reminds me when I had a Pentium G4560 with one defective core.
 
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Sure, most likely. And those will be send back. Will make the life even harder for those that actually have issues as their RMA storage will flood with CPUs.
Maybe Intel shouldn't let board vendors push its products over nominal operation so that they can be on the chart side by side with AMD.
They should've stayed 2nd for this round.

I cannot believe that the great Intel (was...is, its upon debate right now) didnt know about the elevated voltages for so long since 13th gen.
To me it was a bet that has been lost.

When nVidia is coming out publicly and blaming Intel for GPU driver crashes (and other companies too for other reasons) then the issue is real and way beyond the regular failure rate that all products have.
My first 5900X was defective and RMAed. It happens everywhere yes. But this is something else.
In TPU maybe there are not many (if any) examples because I take it that people in here know what they're doing.
But of course these matters should not be left to the hands of the users. Any chip designer should first protect the longevity/reliability of its products with safety features that are actually enabled and not just on paper/specs.

They brought this to themselves alone

Both scenario are terrible for intel

Scenario one they knew it was an issue and did nothing.

Scenario two they didn't know there was an issue and are completely incompetent with their own silicon.

I think its the latter personally and they probably thought making more strict power limits and fixing the oxidation issues was enough.

Yeah, they've created a huge issue with RMAs that'll likely negatively affect those with real issue due to getting RMAs over non cpu issues.
 
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It appears intel is facing lots of returns due to 13th/14th gen fiasco.

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The only issue I have is that a lot of times in such cases genuine returns may get affected due to scammers. I haven't ever had to return any CPU, or board, but electronics returns over the years have gotten more complicated & a lot less user friendly because of such "unscrupulous" elements :shadedshu:

Hope Intel doesn't deny genuine returns just because a few bad ones got through!

Kinda like the saying 'Let a hundred guilty be acquitted, but one innocent should not be convicted'.
 
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Both scenario are terrible for intel

Scenario one they knew it was an issue and did nothing.

Scenario two they didn't know there was an issue and are completely incompetent with their own silicon.

I think its the latter personally and they probably thought making more strict power limits and fixing the oxidation issues was enough.

Yeah, they've created a huge issue with RMAs that'll likely negatively affect those with real issue due to getting RMAs over non cpu issues.
Cant rule out anything as the cause of this mess.
Depends though on how every individual is taking it.
From a good faith perspective or not.
Clearly I dont when it comes to these big@ss corporations that number 1 goal is profit margins.
I work in one (not so big and on totally different field) in my country and I'm seeing every day how management deals with everything in the name of margins.
 
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People do it for the sake of doing it. Even if there are no current problems, they think damage is still done...
 

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"Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"
 
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"Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"

I can picture 5 people in 3 different countries trying to handle the RMAs especially after they plan on cutting so many jobs.

Man it's been a rough couple years in tech especially on the gaming side.
 
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I can picture 5 people in 3 different countries trying to handle the RMAs especially after they plan on cutting so many jobs.

Everything RMA related is outsourced and handled by different companies... every bloody where... not sure why people think it is like that... same like with that ASUS GN case...

The crucial part here is not the amount of people, but logistics and spare part deficiency... they have no replacement SKUs at the needed amount and backorder is created. The swap process itself is made in few minutes.
 
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"Higher than normal case volume?" I see/hear that literally every time I try to reach customer service of any corporation .. it actually means "we have only few agents, because we're trying to save money and value our time higher than yours"
AKA "fuck you peons, we already got your money, now take whatever scraps we give you".

This is why the fanboys on this forum disgust me. Megacorporations don't care about you, why on earth do you stan for them? Parasocial weirdos.
 
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This is why the fanboys on this forum disgust me. Megacorporations don't care about you, why on earth do you stan for them? Parasocial weirdos.

Well I kinda like how Valve operates... if you can call it Mega...
 
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