Is my Cpu Dead? Android VM loading Crash

[jayantfordreams]

I have Ryzen 9 7900
64GB RAM
RTX 3080 12GB

Ok here's wierd issue, i was coding with Android studio, for about few hrs, and i switched to a different project, and started a new emulator, immediately my pc crashed, wtf it tripped off no bsod.

I thought it has to be amd's poor virtualisation support.
I cold booted my pc, it loaded into windows and immediately I opened task manager and I see windows tasks running name "resume" "webview" something and within few seconds pc immediately tripped to off state, trip off no bsod, trip off like power cut, ok i re-start again and went into bios and turned off svm, into the login screen i shutdown my pc without logging in, then on restart on login screen my pc immediately tripped off.
Ok my brain says: 1. some currpot/un-processable data on emulator start created initially when I started the emulator that caused processor to fail pc turned offe, it was stored some where, probably windows keeping it as last used program from memory and dumping it somewhere to restore it later, and windows was trying to restore it after login as pc was immaturely turned off that caused the tripping off after login, processor was fed same data so it tripped office again. Next time when I shutdown from login page it moved the emulator task state to load with login page. And now it crashes on login page. What in the universe?
This is purely speculation, but I have seen many pcs to straight up trip off on emulator use specially AMD ones.

Pls help now I'm unable to get past windows loading screen as it trips office on reaching login screen.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Highly unlikely the CPU or else you likely would not be able to book in the BIOS Setup Menu, or boot into Windows and callup TM.

My mind immediately goes to heat and power. Are your fans spinning? Did you just recently mess with the CPU cooler? If fans are spinning and you've done nothing to the cooler or other hardware, then since EVERYTHING in the computer case depends on good, clean, stable power, you need to start there by verifying you are providing it. You need to swap in a known good PSU and see what happens. If you still have the same problem, then you at least know your PSU is good and not the problem.

 

[jayantfordreams]

Highly unlikely the CPU or else you likely would not be able to book in the BIOS Setup Menu, or boot into Windows and callup TM.

My mind immediately goes to heat and power. Are your fans spinning? Did you just recently mess with the CPU cooler? If fans are spinning and you've done nothing to the cooler or other hardware, then since EVERYTHING in the computer case depends on good, clean, stable power, you need to start there by verifying you are providing it. You need to swap in a known good PSU and see what happens. If you still have the same problem, then you at least know your PSU is good and not the problem.

I don't have bandwidth to swap parts and dismantle case. Also my system has super beefy custom loop and like 10+ fans none of them is broken, some times problem is not with hardware, I can sit on bios screen for hrs but when I load windows boom, is there a way i can clean the windows resume state thing? I simply I reinstall windows ?

 

[A Computer Guy]

I agree with Bill and would look at the PSU first. One thing you should check is the Windows event log. If your lucky it is recording some kind of error prior to shutdown.

Other than that perhaps remove your GPU and retry with only the iGPU since your motherboard looks to support it's own video connection. Seeing your specs that might be a bit of work if you don't have your GPU on quick disconnects and a connection bridge tube ready.

Also my system has super beefy custom loop and like 10+ fans

Sounds interesting have any pictures of that?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Can you try Noxplayer or Bluestacks and see if they crash the same way? Far more likely it's something with your development environment than a hardware fault

 

[_roman_]

I cold booted my pc, it loaded into windows and immediately I opened task manager and I see windows tasks running name "resume" "webview" something and within few seconds pc immediately tripped to off state,

Before doing anything I would recommend a stable test.
You may also share your zentimings screenshot and what dram module and what chiptype on those dram.
(windows is stable, but compiling libreoffice or other packages in the gnu userspace crashes quite fast "stable windows 10 / 11 pro - am5 or am4 mainboard / cpu - mainboard settings".

I had random issues in idle and the culprit was a Corsair rm750 psu. IDLE = load below 100 Watts on the psu output. for around 6 months.
I wrote it a few days ago again. a PSU can make a lot of problems, especially a corsair one.

I miss data of the components. You can leave screws out. Personally I would list everything with details.

Some windows software just crashes. Fact. Windows has a lot of software which crashes. And sometimes it crashes when updating amd chipset and graphic card drivers in windows 11 pro last week.
that is not a hardware but a software issue. Some bad written githup repro when i compile crashes also. The usual gnu userspace is 99% stable.

 

[Redwoodz]

System Restore is quite handy.

 

[jayantfordreams]

Ok guys I'd had it figured out, it was ram, after few more tries today, motherboard showed dram light and no display, i reseated both ram stocks it didn't work, then reseated ram 1 (as single stick) it worked then I reseated ram 2 (as single stick) it worked then I reseated both both worked no crashing.
Also I think power issue could be culprit as I noticed hanging( complete freeze and moving mouse like 0.05 fps) of pc few days ago which had never happened before.
Secondly, i, found wall socket burnt, cause it couldn't handle 1kw load, 1kw cause 600-700w is my pc and 200-300 mini fridge and about 3 monitors all were connected through 1 power extension and to 1 wall switch.
I was getting heated up for awhile and pc was acting weirdly may be because of uneven or un clean current.

I'm sepculating what u guys think?

 

[Shrek]

I'd start with testing the RAM using
Windows Memory Diagnostic

Then check the BIOS

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-X-AX-rev-10-11-12/support

"Improve memory performance and compatibility"

 

[JIWIL]

I'm not an electrician but all that "connected through 1 power extension" doesn't sound good. Spread the load, then do some mem testing.. what I'd start with.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Also my system has super beefy custom loop and like 10+ fans none of them is broken,

It would be the CPU and GPU fans that I would worry about.

some times problem is not with hardware, I can sit on bios screen for hrs but when I load windows boom

That does not prove it is not hardware. The BIOS Setup Menu is about the least demanding task we can ask of the hardware. And as you discovered, it appears your RAM (which of course is hardware) was the problem.

Secondly, i, found wall socket burnt, cause it couldn't handle 1kw load,

A fuse should blow or a circuit breaker should trip long before the wall outlet burns. You are lucky the wall outlet did not start your wall on fire and cause your house to burn now. You absolutely need to have the wiring checked by a professional.

1kw cause 600-700w is my pc and 200-300 mini fridge and about 3 monitors all were connected through 1 power extension and to 1 wall switch.

For sure that is too much for one outlet. Should they all demand maximum power at once, it certainly could overload the circuit. However, and again, a fuse or breaker should trip before the wall socket even shows signs of excessive heat due to too much of a demand.

That said, I "suspect" (hope!) the connector you had plugged into the socket was underrated for the task and that is what got too hot.

 

[A Computer Guy]

I'm not an electrician but all that "connected through 1 power extension" doesn't sound good. Spread the load, then do some mem testing.. what I'd start with.

If you have your own home it might be good to also have your breaker panel inspected. I discovered I had a couple of old breakers from the prior owner that had heat fractures in the breakers and they were bleeding current after being tripped.

 

[Bill_Bright]

i reseated both ram stocks it didn't work, then reseated ram 1 (as single stick) it worked then I reseated ram 2 (as single stick) it worked then I reseated both both worked no crashing.

This could suggest the RAM slots or the contacts on the RAM sticks were simply dirty and/or corroded and reseating them a couple times scraped clean the contacts. However, those slots are designed to prevent dirt and corrosion from getting in between the contacts when a RAM stick is properly inserted. So if such cleaning fixes the problem, that generally means either the stick was not fully inserted during installation or the RAM stick or slot went unused for some time, left exposed to the air (oxygen), dirt, and other crud.

However, another possible problem may be a worn or damaged RAM slot and in that case, the problem is likely to return. Or, you have an intermittent RAM problem and again, that is likely to return.

I would still look at your power issues. If you must use an extension cord, replace that one with a heavier duty one. And move the fridge to a different outlet. Swapping in a known good PSU is still advisable.

Also, every home and every computer user should have access to a AC Outlet Tester to ensure the wall outlet is properly wired and grounded to Earth ground. I recommend one that displays the actual voltage (instead of just LEDs) and a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupt) indicator as it can be used to test bathroom and kitchen outlets (outlets near water) too. These testers can be found for your type and voltage outlet, foreign or domestic, (like this one for the UK, or this one for German outlets) at most home improvement stores, or even the electrical department at Wal-Mart. Use it to test all the outlets in the home and if a fault is shown, have it fixed by a qualified electrician.