[leak] DLSS4 is coming

[Zazigalka]

this looks like it might be true too, coming from a trustworthy leaker.

NVIDIA DLSS4 expected to be announced with GeForce RTX 50 Series - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA DLSS4 coming, claims leaker After confirming the final TDP specs for the RTX 5090/5080 series, Kopite7kimi has shared some news about a DLSS (Deep Learning Super Sampling) update that NVIDIA is working on. The new technology, unsurprisingly called DLSS 4, is indeed on the way, claims the...

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I smell another price inflation based on new, 50-series exclusive features. I don't think rasterization fans will see that much of an improvement. My bet is new, revised version of super resolution and ray reconstrution for 20-series to 40-series, and a new AI feature for 50-series only that might improve RT performance primarily, giving 50 series another 20-25% added performance over previos generations. I'd be very surprised if dlss4 in its entirety did not require some new, 50-series exclusive hw. Nvidia might feel like they need a strong response to FSR4. I don't wanna slam them too hard before this thing is officially announced, but we all know how David Leatherman operates.
I still want DLSS4 to be a great leap though, even if it requires exclusive hardware. No need to jump on the train immediately after launch, I'm fine with sitting out 50-series.

 

[Zazigalka]

it'll be nice to see updated versions of SR/RR/FG in AW2 and Cyberpunk soon.

 

[Keyop]

I want to know latency numbers

 

[Zazigalka]

I want to see the new Super Resolution and Ray Reconstruction more than this whole multiple frame generation thing. I hope Crocodile Dundee prepared something good.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I want to know latency numbers

It will look smooth but feel like 71fps but there is only a tiny penalty vs just using OG frame generation...

This is the least interesting thing about 50 series but at least it didn't go backwards in terms of latency. The caveat being I'm not sure if they are using relfex on the 71fps.

 

[zigzag]

I want to see the new Super Resolution and Ray Reconstruction more than this whole multiple frame generation thing.

Same. The difference in details between the new transformers based models and the old CNN based models seems huge.

EDIT: Old vs New:

EDIT 2: The new models require four times more compute during inference.

 

[dgianstefani]

I want to know latency numbers

Will be better, Reflex 2.

DLSS 4 should look better than current DLAA, and DLAA 4 should be insane for IQ.

 

[Zazigalka]

Will be better, Reflex 2.

DLSS 4 should look better than current DLAA, and DLAA 4 should be insane for IQ.

It is rumored to substantially improve the quality of leather jackets in cp2077.
but seriously, the switch from CNN to transformer model in DLSS SR and RR are the most important points for me, not this whole multi frame technology. It already looked like a major improvement in Digital Foundry early unofficial coverage, and from what I infrerred, there is really no ceiling to how it can improve over time now, unlike training CNN models.

And what's most important, the new versions will run on my 4070 Super (and 2000/3000 as well)

Spoiler: dlss chart

I like that they optimized FG for rtx40 too, seeing how it used up to 1GB vram at times, it really needed to be adressed, especially when nvidia sells vram like a feature.

 

[dirtyferret]

DLSS4 is coming you say? Well my world hasn't been this rocked since Count Von Count said the number 4 came after the number 3.

 

[JustBenching]

Kinda cool that older hardware is supported. Basically it's only MFG that's missing.

 

[Toothless]

It's nice NVIDIA is still supporting 20 series but requiring stuff like Reflex 2 to fix something they created is kind of sad.

 

[Vya Domus]

It is rumored to substantially improve the quality of leather jackets in cp2077.
but seriously, the switch from CNN to transformer model in DLSS SR and RR are the most important points for me, not this whole multi frame technology. It already looked like a major improvement in Digital Foundry early unofficial coverage, and from what I infrerred, there is really no ceiling to how it can improve over time now, unlike training CNN models.

And what's most important, the new versions will run on my 4070 Super (and 2000/3000 as well)

I like that they optimized FG for rtx40 too, seeing how it used up to 1GB vram at times, it really needed to be adressed, especially when nvidia sells vram like a feature.

I feel like I am stuck in a time loop, 3 generations of video cards demoing the same game, same talking points, upscaling, frame interpolation, ray tracing, this is nuts.

 

[Zazigalka]

I feel like I am stuck in a time loop, 3 generations of video cards demoing the same game, same talking points, upscaling, frame interpolation, ray tracing, this is nuts.

Don't like it, don't watch it. Has to be a nice breath of fresh air for you when amd doesn't show you fsr4 while launching fsr4.

It's nice NVIDIA is still supporting 20 series but requiring stuff like Reflex 2 to fix something they created is kind of sad.

You can use reflex and not use FG you know

 

[Toothless]

Don't like it, don't watch it. Has to be a nice breath of fresh air for you when amd doesn't show you fsr4 while launching fsr4.


You can use reflex and not use FG you know

Sure, but then you're not going to see the "performance" NVIDIA is advertising with frame gen.

 

[freeagent]

Frame gen is pretty neat. Little tricks to make easier work for the middle class cards

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Frame gen is pretty neat. Little tricks to make easier work for the middle class cards

People keep saying this but those middle class cards need to be putting out a decent framerate for it to even work well with 60 being the min and 80 being ideal unless one is ok with the input feeling like its 30fps....