Good morning!
I will post all my main questions at the very bottom of this, under the pictures.
Ok, So I spent the first day with all your suggested settings changed in Throttlestop as follows:
Cache offset -100mV
Core offset -150mV
MMIO Lock Box Checked
Long Power PL1 60 (Clamp checked was default)
Short Power PL2 70
Turbo Time Limit 28
Speed Shift (Checked) under Min 8 the value is set to 1, under Max 45 the value is set to 45
Speed Shift EPP 0
I ran my games, played my music, did everything I usually do mainly and everything seemed super stable, although temperatures were still hitting Max of 98c on the CPU (As per throttlestop display) and 78c on the GPU (as per Dragon Center display). I did have dragon center open for these couple days to keep an eye on the temp.
Anyways, at some point during the day I decided to change the Cache and Core another -25mV each, as follows:
Cache offset -125mV
Core offsent -175.8mV
After a good 4 hours after changing the mV, I was playing my games doing my thing. It seemed stable, no issues. It seemed also like the temperatures did come down a bit seeing Max of 97c on the CPU (As per throttlestop display) and 74c on the GPU (As per Dragon Center display)
I tried to play with the Speed Shift EPP settings changing it from 0 and than to 84. I didn't notice a difference, I don't think? I am sure there was a difference, as per heat goes tho I did see the temperatures more balanced (again, I am not sure if this was from the -25mV change, or EPP at 84 or both). But I would see more stable of about 85-88c on the CPU, and 69-72c on the GPU with spikes up to 90-94c on CPU with some heaving loading in games and spike of 73-74c on the GPU. But it would only jump as my eye caught it in dragon center, for a split second.
I also tried to play with the Long Power PL1 and Short Power PL2. I set the PL1 anywhere from 45-60 on your suggested, increments of 5 at the same time I set the PL2 anywhere from 50-70 on your suggest, increments of 5, within 5-10 of PL1. Ex (PL1 45 PL2 50 or PL1 45 PL2 55). These settings were very short and brief from 5min-45min before I set back to the 60/70 you suggested. I have no idea if these settings did anything at all.
I also tried to play with the Turbo Time Limit a couple of times from 8, 20, 24, 28 to see if this did anything. Again, this was brief short periods and I never noticed if this did anything either before I set back to the 28.
Ok, the things I did not do was cinebench testing. This is all new to me, so I am not sure. I want to understand Throttlestop a bit more, and how to manage my heat/speed settings myself, so when I decide to play some hardcore graphic games over what I currently play, I would like to be able to adjust it myself and start learning to cinebench test and all this myself.. But I figured, once I control my beast (msi gf65 thin), than I can start bettering the process for future. I should of probably took your advice to the T, and done cinebench testing and I will.. if you need results from that also to help me, and others with this issue from this post, I absolutely will just let me know.
So lets get to some pictures and tests. Its the morning. I have firefox open and typing on this forum, my PC has been idle all night and these are the settings I left it at and came back to (nothing cleared or adjusted from this):
After IDLE all night
@IDLE (with firefox, TS and Paint open. Than the following background apps)
Nvidia Geforce Experience/Panel
Dragon Center
Defender
Razer Synapsis
Intel Driver and Support Assistant
Nahimic
ExpressVPN
ModernFlyouts
Throttlestop
Main + TPL + Limit Reasons
FIVR
CPU Core
FIVR
CPU Cache
Ok, now I am going to keep these settings the same, and do a TS Bench with CPUID HWMonitor open as well. I will keep the Logs for each test and attach as well.
Test #1 @ 120M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 0 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 0 - Test1 @ 120M - 2022-10-23.txt
Test #2 @ 960M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 0 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 0 - Test2 @ 960M - 2022-10-23.txt
Test #3 @ 7680M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 0 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 0 - Test 3 @ 7680M - 2022-10-23.txt
Ok, now I am going to do these same tests with Speed Shift EPP set at 84.
Test #1 @ 120M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 84 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 84 - Test1 @ 120M - 2022-10-23.txt
Test #2 @ 960M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 84 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 84 - Test2 @ 960M - 2022-10-23.txt
Test #3 @ 7680M
With cleared min/max before test
*Speed Shift EPP 84 with all the rest of the settings the same*
LOG = EPP 84 - Test3 @ 7680M - 2022-10-23.txt
I have also included the other logs as follows:
Day 1
LOG = Day 1 - 2022-10-21.txt
Day2
LOG = Day 2 - 2022-10-21.txt
Before todays tests (Overnight Idle)
LOG = Before Tests - Night Idle -2022-10-23.txt
Ok, so my main questions were to keep it short are:
Between these tests and two EPP settings I did tinker with primarily (84 and 0), is this heat harmful to run like this for prolonged periods etc?
What does clamp do exactly, and should I check or uncheck any of the clamped boxes or keep the default one as is?
How do I know if Dragon Center is conflicting with Throttlestop? If so, because I use DC for fan settings, do you have a prefered fan software or is one even needed (will bios handle it fine?) if I uninstalled Dragon Center?
Is there anymore adjusting you think I could do to Throttlestop based on the information above from the tests/logs?
For future, when I want to increase speed (i know temp increases also) which settings would I only need to focus adjust in this current profile? and which direction?
For future, when I want to decrease heat/temp (i know speed decreases also) which settings would I only need to focus adjust in this current profile? and which direction?
*MAIN GOAL* I know sometimes its not possible, but if these temperatures are harmful for as per question above, what settings would I need to adjust to get the temps balanced around 80-85c CPU and 65-70c GPU. I know spikes in temperature happen, so I am not sure it can be prevented from spiking past 90c in extreme loads.
I would like a more balanced profile, I am willing to sacrafice a bit of speed for temperature decrease.
I think these are the only questions I mainly had, hopefully this is enough information for yourself and to help the general public.
Let me know if you do need anymore information, or specific tests from me to further this or not.
I look forward to your reply, again I appreciate the help and guidance with this unclewebb, you are a god of the tech world!
Thanks!!!
