Low FPS with GIGABYTE RTX 3080 GAMING OC

[hymced]

Hi all

I spent a lot to build my rig, and I am quite disappointed... it seems to be underperforming. I checked everything I could think of.. Please help, I will take any advice

In Fortnite:

• 1080p epic settings : 150-170fps avg
• 1440p epic settings: 120 fps
• 4K epic settings: 60 fps

I saw a lot of tests running easily at 250 fps in 1080p with max settings, here:

Fortnite Battle Royale avec RTX 3080 et Intel Core i7-11700K à Qualité ultra des repères de performance

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Core i7-11700K and GeForce RTX 3080 | Fortnite: Chapter 2 FPS Calculation | PC Builds

Frames per second (FPS) calculation for Intel Core i7-11700K and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 in Fortnite: Chapter 2 video game.

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• NZXT H1 V2 including 750W PSU and 140mm AIO
• Asus ROG STRIX Z590-I GAMING WIFIi7-11700K (Stock settings + Asus Multicore Enhancement MCE enabled in BIOS)
• Kingston 2x16GB DDR4 KF432C16BB1AK2/32 (Dual Channel and XMP I @ 3200MHz 16-18-18-36 1.35V enabled in BIOS)
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING OC 10G rev 2.0 LHR ("prefer maximum performance" is set in NVIDIA Control Center, Re-size BAR is enabled in BIOS and I verified in NVIDIA System Info)
• Freesync/Gsync is off

Drivers are up to date, install is fresh, I have done nothing else than installing drivers after the Windows 10 Pro 21H2 install

I haven't tried enabling DLSS, but even without, it seems pretty low to me...

For the H1 V1 prebuilt, the case included a 10700KF + GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti and NZXT advertise some guaranteed FPS

for Fortnite:

• 183fps@1080p
• 159fps@1440p

Checking FPS Guarantee

Firstly let us break down how our FPS Guarantee works. When we measure our FPS Guarantee, this is done in an hour-long session at the highest preset graphics setting within a game you selected for ...

support.nzxt.com

They say they use the highest graphical presets available in game. No DLSS, no ray tracing

My goal is no to overclock everything to reach higher and expected value, I should reach them with stock settings, shouldn't I?

Plus I have run 3DMark, nothing wrong, excepts it also says I should reach 195+ fps on Fortnite

I also check GPU-Z, it says the gpu perfcapped with vRel and Util (log codes 4 and 16) and once with Pwr (log code 1), I don't know if that can help, I am sure sure to understand what they mean.

So whats wrong?

 

[eidairaman1]

Lower details in game

 

[GerKNG]

"prefer maximum performance"

turn that off. it only prevents from going back into 2D mode at idle and the card wastes around 120W at idle for no reason.

you are clearly CPU bound in that screenshot. or memory (bandwidth, performance)

 

[hymced]

turn that off. it only prevents from going back into 2D mode at idle and the card wastes around 120W at idle for no reason.

I will keep that in mind thank you, I was not aware of that!

you are clearly CPU bound in that screenshot. or memory (bandwidth, performance)

how to be sure? and how to know which one is the culprit really?
I tried God of War in 1080p ultra no DLSS, and i get around 100-110 fps avg, which again seems low for my config
With this game, the LIMIT from what MSI Afterburner says is POWER, I get that.
In Fortnite it is VOLTAGE, so probably related to the vRel perfcap found in GPU-Z...
What does it mean ?
here he does 90-100 in 1440p

but the interesting point is in this case the GPU load reaches 97-98% and power draw 340-350W
does it not eliminate the CPU bottleneck hypothesis?

 

[Vayra86]

Your system is running just fine, I wouldn't tinker with it, but rather seek efficiency. Game engines have limits, too. The bottleneck might just be game logic.

Its a bad idea to try and mimic whatever someone else has or advertises with. Every PC config is different.

 

[hymced]

Some other test this morning with GTA V
The games runs at 160-180 fps in 1080p with Very High graphics presets (both DX10 and DX11)
*BUT* there is stuttering and framerate drop to 50-60 fps very often
There is definitely something wrong...
Does this mean a CPU bottleneck? with an 11700K really???

EDIT:
Maybe an anwser here:

Upgraded to new PC and noticing stutters in GTA

I recently upgraded from a 2080 super r5 3600 16gb ram to rtx 3080 r7 5800x 32gb ram and i noticed that all games run fine all benchmarks run fine except for one game. GTA 5 it stutters i dont exactly know why but im getting good frames like 180fps but the game stutters here and there but apparen...

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It is rather a game related issue that a "real" CPU bottleneck apparently...
EDIT2:
I reenabled Vsync, but I have only a 60Hz display, so fps are now capped to 60, no stuttering at this framerate obvioulsy, it would need a 144Hz to properly test that...

 

[GerKNG]

In Fortnite it is VOLTAGE, so probably related to the vRel perfcap found in GPU-Z...

because your GPU is not at 99% load.
and the voltage cap reason is normal when the card is not current limited. your Card has a fixed voltage/frequency curve and when it has enough ressources (power, thermals, load) it is limited by the V/F Curve and clocks at it's max speed without any throttling.

 

[ratirt]

For the Fortnite, I would increase the resolution. You may find out with increased res you have exactly the same FPS as at 1080p or around. It is definitely a CPU limitation.

 

[Chomiq]

Why are you running fortnite at 150+ fps when you only have a 60 Hz display? You like tearing so much?

As for "benchmarks" unless you know the test scene you can't compare anything.

 

[hymced]

For the Fortnite, I would increase the resolution. You may find out with increased res you have exactly the same FPS as at 1080p or around. It is definitely a CPU limitation.

I have provided the fps at 1440p and 4K, I don't see this typical behavior in fact...

because your GPU is not at 99% load.
and the voltage cap reason is normal when the card is not current limited. your Card has a fixed voltage/frequency curve and when it has enough ressources (power, thermals, load) it is limited by the V/F Curve and clocks at it's max speed without any throttling.

ok, not anormal, but then why it wouldn't push further to higher framerate?
I don't know if thats relevant, but in fact it was alternatively vRel *and* Util

Why are you running fortnite at 150+ fps when you only have a 60 Hz display? You like tearing so much?
As for "benchmarks" unless you know the test scene you can't compare anything.

lol because I already spent so much for the PC, display is the next step... But if something is wrong at this point I'd like to know!
So I test what I can test for now.
No disgression please

 

[ratirt]

I have provided the fps at 1440p and 4K, I don't see this typical behavior in fact...

Actually you do. moving from 1080p to 1440p didnt cut the FPS in half did it? It is a CPU bottleneck. Especially when you see at 1080p the GPU load is 76%. Your CPU can't keep up with your GPU.

 

[Chomiq]

What rendering mode are you using in Fortnite? Edit. nevermind, DX11 based on the screenshot. Switch to DX12 Beta.

 

[hymced]

Actually you do. moving from 1080p to 1440p didnt cut the FPS in half did it? It is a CPU bottleneck. Especially when you see at 1080p the GPU load is 76%. Your CPU can't keep up with your GPU.

with an i7-11700K really? I thought the CPU was supposed to be at 100% in a CPU bottleneck...

supposing its the reason, how come a 10700KF + RTX 3060 Ti does so much better? (185 fps in 1080p epic no DLSS)

What rendering mode are you using in Fortnite? Edit. nevermind, DX11 based on the screenshot. Switch to DX12 Beta.

Yep tried DX12 is worse...

 

[GerKNG]

but then why it wouldn't push further to higher framerate?

because your CPU can not provide any more frames to render for the GPU.

 

[hymced]

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Review with 11700 + RTX 3080 FE game Far Cry 5 1080p highest settings, result: 145 fps

I have just tried, avg between 110-130 fps
I am lower, the difference is less obvious, but still, mine is a gaming OC, it should do better, how can I be worse with the same processor?

 

[Vayra86]

Your system is running just fine, I wouldn't tinker with it, but rather seek efficiency. Game engines have limits, too. The bottleneck might just be game logic.

Its a bad idea to try and mimic whatever someone else has or advertises with. Every PC config is different.

Read again.
Then,

Read it again.
This topic will go nowhere else.

 

[Chomiq]

Here:

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Review with 11700 + RTX 3080 FE game Far Cry 5 1080p highest settings, result: 145 fps

I have just tried, avg between 110-130 fps
I am lower, the difference is less obvious, but still, mine is a gaming OC, it should do better, how can I be worse with the same processor?

 

[phanbuey]

Here:

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NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3080 "Ampere" Founders Edition is a truly impressive graphics card. It not only looks fantastic, performance is also better than even the RTX 2080 Ti. In our RTX 3080 Founders Edition review, we're also taking a close look at the new cooler, which runs quietly without...

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Review with 11700 + RTX 3080 FE game Far Cry 5 1080p highest settings, result: 145 fps

I have just tried, avg between 110-130 fps
I am lower, the difference is less obvious, but still, mine is a gaming OC, it should do better, how can I be worse with the same processor?

Memory latency most likely - far cry is massively memory dependent - you're probably getting the same frames at 1440p.

Also see if your power settings are set to max performance

 

[JustBenching]

Hi all

I spent a lot to build my rig, and I am quite disappointed... it seems to be underperforming. I checked everything I could think of.. Please help, I will take any advice

In Fortnite:

• 1080p epic settings : 150-170fps avg
• 1440p epic settings: 120 fps
• 4K epic settings: 60 fps

View attachment 240789

I saw a lot of tests running easily at 250 fps in 1080p with max settings, here:

Fortnite Battle Royale avec RTX 3080 et Intel Core i7-11700K à Qualité ultra des repères de performance

Nous repères Fortnite Battle Royale avec Qualité ultra et Intel Core i7-11700K à des RTX 3080 paramètres

www.gpucheck.com

Core i7-11700K and GeForce RTX 3080 | Fortnite: Chapter 2 FPS Calculation | PC Builds

Frames per second (FPS) calculation for Intel Core i7-11700K and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 in Fortnite: Chapter 2 video game.

pc-builds.com

• NZXT H1 V2 including 750W PSU and 140mm AIO
• Asus ROG STRIX Z590-I GAMING WIFIi7-11700K (Stock settings + Asus Multicore Enhancement MCE enabled in BIOS)
• Kingston 2x16GB DDR4 KF432C16BB1AK2/32 (Dual Channel and XMP I @ 3200MHz 16-18-18-36 1.35V enabled in BIOS)
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING OC 10G rev 2.0 LHR ("prefer maximum performance" is set in NVIDIA Control Center, Re-size BAR is enabled in BIOS and I verified in NVIDIA System Info)
• Freesync/Gsync is off

Drivers are up to date, install is fresh, I have done nothing else than installing drivers after the Windows 10 Pro 21H2 install

I haven't tried enabling DLSS, but even without, it seems pretty low to me...

For the H1 V1 prebuilt, the case included a 10700KF + GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti and NZXT advertise some guaranteed FPS

for Fortnite:

• 183fps@1080p
• 159fps@1440p

Checking FPS Guarantee

Firstly let us break down how our FPS Guarantee works. When we measure our FPS Guarantee, this is done in an hour-long session at the highest preset graphics setting within a game you selected for ...

support.nzxt.com

They say they use the highest graphical presets available in game. No DLSS, no ray tracing

My goal is no to overclock everything to reach higher and expected value, I should reach them with stock settings, shouldn't I?

Plus I have run 3DMark, nothing wrong, excepts it also says I should reach 195+ fps on Fortnite

View attachment 240790

I also check GPU-Z, it says the gpu perfcapped with vRel and Util (log codes 4 and 16) and once with Pwr (log code 1), I don't know if that can help, I am sure sure to understand what they mean.

So whats wrong?

In the screenshot the bottleneck is clearly the cpu. Good news, your gpu is fine.

About the cpu, i assume you installed ram properly in dual channel and enabled xmp? Generally speaking it makes sense that a 3080 is being bottlenecked at 1080p when you are running 3200c16 ram. And since you have a rocket lake cpu, are you sure the ram is running at gear 1?

 

[hymced]

About the cpu, i assume you installed ram properly in dual channel and enabled xmp? Generally speaking it makes sense that a 3080 is being bottlenecked at 1080p when you are running 3200c16 ram. And since you have a rocket lake cpu, are you sure the ram is running at gear 1?

Dual channel + XMP 3200 16-18-18 yes
HWinfo says gear mode 1.
I have checked in bios:
BCLK : DRAM set to Auto
Memory Controller : DRAM set to Auto
I am not sure I understand how this setting is important, but anyway I tried setting it to gear 2 (1:2), and it is worse in Fortnite, it drops to 130 fps avg same settings than in my op

In the screenshot the bottleneck is clearly the cpu. Good news, your gpu is fine.

ok but well.... I am still surprised with a 11700K I can't get any better... Could it be better with faster RAM? like really better, more than 10 fps

 

[Vayra86]

Comparing like for like based on youtube is a bad approach You will never run the exact same configuration even just on Windows and background applications alone. Those do eat away a few percent too.

 

[JustBenching]

Dual channel + XMP 3200 16-18-18 yes
HWinfo says gear mode 1.
I have checked in bios:
BCLK : DRAM set to Auto
Memory Controller : DRAM set to Auto
I am not sure I understand how this setting is important, but anyway I tried setting it to gear 2 (1:2), and it is worse in Fortnite, it drops to 130 fps avg same settings than in my op


ok but well.... I am still surprised with a 11700K I can't get any better... Could it be better with faster RAM?

It should be gear 1, its better than gear 2.

Why do you expect to get better with a 11700k? Around 150 at epic settings is kind of the normal. Yes you will get more fps with better ram but whats the point? Your monitor is 60 hz anyways and you don't need to play at epic, you can go down to high or something and get 200+.

 

[hymced]

Why do you expect to get better with a 11700k? Around 150 at epic settings is kind of the normal. Yes you will get more fps with better ram but whats the point? Your monitor is 60 hz anyways and you don't need to play at epic, you can go down to high or something and get 200+.

60 Hz for now!

I agree with the youtube technique its stupid, but again, any sources I could find and that I mentioned above says I should get more fps. So are they ALL wrong? If yes, this whole topic is futile... but I need proof

 

[JustBenching]

60 Hz for now!

I agree with the youtube technique its stupid, but again, any sources I could find and that I mentioned above says I should get more fps. So are they ALL wrong? If yes, this whole topic is futile... but I need proof

What sources do you mean? Can you run the FC5 in game benchmark? Cause you are comparing your gameplay fps to a benchmark. Just go to the graphics options, there should be a Benchmark button somewhere, run it and share the results.

 

[hymced]

here:

http://imgur.com/a/5ZEDf38

I took a screenshot with the MSI afterburn stats at the worse framerate moment
I closed every process/bloatware I could
the result is ugly...
I was about to think I am crazy, that there is nothing wrong, but now its obvious there is, isn't it?