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M.2 NVMe PCI Express 5.0

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Do i really need an M.2 NVMe PCI Express 5.0 for a new mid-high range gaming built or it's overkill at this moment?
 

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No you dont. Just get an WD SN770.
 
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Nope. Overkill.
Even a Gen3 NVME would be more than sufficient for that application.

If you have a particular goal/expectation, check reviews first. Some drives are firmware-optimized for Game Loading Time or Boot Time.
 
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I bought the SN580 as it is faster and TLC so it has good endurance which is favorable

My Dell XPS 15 likes it and my machine boots fast
 
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It's not just overkill. It's pointless. You'll never transfer large files in a gaming system to notice any speed increase over 4.0 or even 3.0.
 
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Put your OS on a smallish WD Blue SN580, WD Black SN770 (or SN850X if you write a lot of small files or use gamer bloatware), and get a large Lexar NM790 and put inside an M.2 slot connected to your CPU for your game library. That will most likely beat any setup that uses a single Crucial T705 for gaming.
 
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Do i really need an M.2 NVMe PCI Express 5.0 for a new mid-high range gaming built or it's overkill at this moment?
Only for the benchmarks right now. Until DirectStorage becomes more of a thing and GPU VRAM / game streaming/in-use assets suddenly jumps much higher you probably would be hard pushed to notice much difference even between a drive running PCIe4 or 3 spec in the majority of systems and games (which are usually performance limited in some other way).
 
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Do i really need an M.2 NVMe PCI Express 5.0
Do some soul searching.
I'm on a single 240GB g3x4 M.2 for now. In terms of high speed, I don't really feel the push for more than this (yet).
Full evolution will be g4x4 M.2 RAID (mobo), which historically doesn't sit well with others and understandably so.

There is such a thing as "too fast" and I've already encountered it on single ~3GB/s writes. The writes themselves are great. Love it.
The issue is in diagnosing storage problems whenever there is constant log writes or buffer issues that lead to nonstop data dumps.
Can't see it if you're not even aware of constant writes to the tune of 11MB/s with ZERO signs of slowdowns of any kind at the console.
You absolutely need to get into a habit of opening Resource Monitor just to identify the slowdowns and even then, anything can trash it.

Do I need g3x4?
As a substitute to sata? Yes.
Loading VR apps? Yes.
Loading modern games? No.
Loading antique games? No.
Loading incredibly massive DBs? No.
Loading thousands of tiny files? Possibly.
Compiling giganto lightmaps? Absolutely.

Of course, g4x4 and g5x4 facilitate significantly faster operating conditions for each scenario.
The moment g5x4 RAID hits the scene, we're going to have a very different universe of problems with storage, starting with rogue apps.
 
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The real issue is if current game engines take advantage of the extra storage bandwidth. TPU did a check up on this with the last PCIe 5.0 review device here.
Conclusion I get from that is there is about 1 -2 seconds difference in loading times between PCIe 3.0, 4.0 & 5.0. If that matters to the OP, then its your call...
 
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Do some soul searching.
I'm on a single 240GB g3x4 M.2 for now. In terms of high speed, I don't really feel the push for more than this (yet).
Full evolution will be g4x4 M.2 RAID (mobo), which historically doesn't sit well with others and understandably so.

There is such a thing as "too fast" and I've already encountered it on single ~3GB/s writes. The writes themselves are great. Love it.
The issue is in diagnosing storage problems whenever there is constant log writes or buffer issues that lead to nonstop data dumps.
Can't see it if you're not even aware of constant writes to the tune of 11MB/s with ZERO signs of slowdowns of any kind at the console.
You absolutely need to get into a habit of opening Resource Monitor just to identify the slowdowns and even then, anything can trash it.

Do I need g3x4?
As a substitute to sata? Yes.
Loading VR apps? Yes.
Loading modern games? No.
Loading antique games? No.
Loading incredibly massive DBs? No.
Loading thousands of tiny files? Possibly.
Compiling giganto lightmaps? Absolutely.

Of course, g4x4 and g5x4 facilitate significantly faster operating conditions for each scenario.
The moment g5x4 RAID hits the scene, we're going to have a very different universe of problems with storage, starting with rogue apps.
I personally love M2 RAID. In Task Manager you can see both drives writing and reading at the same time. Especially with M2, it is often cheaper to buy 2 2 TB M2s vs 1 4TB M2.
 
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I personally love M2 RAID. In Task Manager you can see both drives writing and reading at the same time. Especially with M2, it is often cheaper to buy 2 2 TB M2s vs 1 4TB M2.
Linear or striped setup?
 
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Very few games read their data in a linear enough manner to benefit from PCIe 5.0.

If fact with most games you are better off with a high random-seek performance SSD, namely Intel Optane, which is PCIe 3.0.
 

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Nope. Overkill.
Even a Gen3 NVME would be more than sufficient for that application.

If you have a particular goal/expectation, check reviews first. Some drives are firmware-optimized for Game Loading Time or Boot Time.

Sheesh SATA SSD's be enough really, and you still will not get to read the tips while it's loading
 
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