MSI RX 5700 Mech OC vBIOS Flash Help "mismatched subsystem ID's

[TheBrokenBeast]

Is there a matching 5700xt BIOS? When I attempt to flash the "matching" MSI RX 5700 MECH OC BIOS(i.e. MSI RX 5700XT MECH OC BIOS) to my card, I get an error saying that the "subsystemID's mismatched." Can force flash it or is there simply no compatable BIOS for this card variant and I should stick to soft power-play tables to adjust the software limitations of the non XT 5700?

Graphics Card Manufacturer - Powered by AMD
Graphics Chipset - AMD Radeon RX 5700
Device ID - 731F
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 3811
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1462
Revision ID - C4
Bus Type - PCI Express 4.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS Version - 017.001.000.049
BIOS Part Number - Not Available
BIOS Date - 2019/08/05 07:30
Memory Size - 8176 MB
Memory Type - GDDR6
Memory Clock - 875 MHz
Core Clock - 1675 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 448 GByte/s
Memory Bit Rate - 14.00 Gbps
2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000
OpenGL® API Version - 4.6
OpenCL™ API Version - 2.0

 

[eidairaman1]

What are you trying to do exactly?

Give me a GPU-Z screenshot and a card back white sticker picture please

Is there a matching 5700xt BIOS? When I attempt to flash the "matching" MSI RX 5700 MECH OC BIOS(i.e. MSI RX 5700XT MECH OC BIOS) to my card, I get an error saying that the "subsystemID's mismatched." Can force flash it or is there simply no compatable BIOS for this card variant and I should stick to soft power-play tables to adjust the software limitations of the non XT 5700?

Graphics Card Manufacturer - Powered by AMD
Graphics Chipset - AMD Radeon RX 5700
Device ID - 731F
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 3811
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1462
Revision ID - C4
Bus Type - PCI Express 4.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS Version - 017.001.000.049
BIOS Part Number - Not Available
BIOS Date - 2019/08/05 07:30
Memory Size - 8176 MB
Memory Type - GDDR6
Memory Clock - 875 MHz
Core Clock - 1675 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 448 GByte/s
Memory Bit Rate - 14.00 Gbps
2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000
OpenGL® API Version - 4.6
OpenCL™ API Version - 2.0

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

I am attempting to flash my MSI RX 5700 MECH OC to the MSI RX 5700XT MECH OC BIOS. The non-XT models have software limitations imposed onto them even though the two cards are very similar in regards to hardware specs. The problem I am running into is that my SSID is 3811 and I cannot find a bios that matches. The XT model of my card has a SSID of 3810. So, when I try to flash the bios using atiflash I receive an error saying that the SSID's don't match and the flash is aborted/fails.

GPU-Z: http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/19/11/25/4q3.png

Trying to use this BIOS: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213797/msi-rx5700xt-8192-190805

 

[eidairaman1]

I am attempting to flash my MSI RX 5700 MECH OC to the MSI RX 5700XT MECH OC BIOS. The non-XT models have software limitations imposed onto them even though the two cards are very similar in regards to hardware specs. The problem I am running into is that my SSID is 3811 and I cannot find a bios that matches. The XT model of my card has a SSID of 3810. So, when I try to flash the bios using atiflash I receive an error saying that the SSID's don't match and the flash is aborted/fails.

GPU-Z: http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/19/11/25/4q3.png

Trying to use this BIOS: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213797/msi-rx5700xt-8192-190805

Give me a bit to research that card

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

Thank you for your help

 

[eidairaman1]

Thank you for your help

I doubt that card has a dual bios switch.

What are your complete system specs?

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

I doubt that card has a dual bios switch.

What are your complete system specs?

I don't believe it does. I went looking for one to no avail

Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4.1 GHz
H100i V2
Corsair LPX DDR4 @ 2933 MHz
MSI B450M Gaming Plus Micro ATX
Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB SSD
Corsair CX600M PSU
MSI RX 5700 MECH OC
WIN 10 PRO

 

[Tatty_Two]

Maybe try the recommended MSI XT Bios listed and linked in our guide here...….

Flashing Radeon RX 5700 with RX 5700 XT BIOS: Guide & Performance Review

AMD's Radeon RX 5700 has been engineered for maximum efficiency, which forced AMD to compromise in terms of performance. We demonstrate how a simple BIOS flash can unleash the card, delivering performance almost on par with the much more expensive Radeon RX 5700 XT.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

Maybe try the recommended MSI XT Bios listed and linked in our guide here...….

Flashing Radeon RX 5700 with RX 5700 XT BIOS: Guide & Performance Review

AMD's Radeon RX 5700 has been engineered for maximum efficiency, which forced AMD to compromise in terms of performance. We demonstrate how a simple BIOS flash can unleash the card, delivering performance almost on par with the much more expensive Radeon RX 5700 XT.

www.techpowerup.com

None have the correct SubSystem ID - 3811. I can match the SubSystem Vendor ID - 1462 being that that relates to MSI it appears. So, when I try to flash the bios using atiflash in GUI I receive an error saying that the SSID's don't match and the flash is aborted/fails. I can, it seems, force the flash using the command system to bypass the SSID check but I am not sure that won't effectively brick my GPU. When I use your tool, VGA BIOS Collection, it shows only my card when I search for compatibility.

 

[eidairaman1]

I don't believe it does. I went looking for one to no avail

Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4.1 GHz
H100i V2
Corsair LPX DDR4 @ 2933 MHz
MSI B450M Gaming Plus Micro ATX
Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB SSD
Corsair CX600M PSU
MSI RX 5700 MECH OC
WIN 10 PRO

Do you have an old back up card available?

I hope you do because even switching subsystem ids can cause trouble

 

[Tatty_Two]

I can only find one other MSI XT Bios even in the unverified uploads which is for the Evoke here...…………….

MSI RX 5700 XT VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1400 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

I agree with @eidairaman1, with only a single Bios a forced flash with non matching ID's is risky.

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

Thank you everyone for your help. I'll stick to playing with the soft power play tables for now then. But one question before I go, what is the subsystem ID referencing exactly?

 

[basco]

did ya try this:

igor´sLAB | PC & Components | Reviews & News

www.igorslab.media

 

[eidairaman1]

Thank you everyone for your help. I'll stick to playing with the soft power play tables for now then. But one question before I go, what is the subsystem ID referencing exactly?

The specific card and its config along with company info.

I would only flash a non dual bios card if i had an igp or spare working gpu.

And know how to enter the correct syntax for bios flashing in a command prompt

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

did ya try this:

igor´sLAB | PC & Components | Reviews & News

www.igorslab.media

Ironically, that is where I was going next.

The specific card and its config along with company info.

I would only flash a non dual bios card if i had an igp or spare working gpu.

This card is non dual BIOS. Out of curiosity how does a spare card help? Simply to go back to while I try to RMA a card that has a bricked BIOS lol
Also, IGP?

 

[eidairaman1]

Ironically, that is where I was going next.



This card is non dual BIOS. Out of curiosity how does a spare card help? Simply to go back to while I try to RMA a card that has a bricked BIOS lol
Also, IGP?

The spare card allows you to reflash a bricked card when they are both installed.

IGP is integrated graphics processor. Your R5 2600 doesnt have one only the 2400G does etc.

All solutions are to recover a card you bricked.

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

The spare card allows you to reflash a bricked card when they are both installed.

IGP is integrated graphics processor. Your R5 2600 doesnt have one only the 2400G does etc.

All solutions are to recover a card you bricked.

LOL fair. Alright, no BIOS flash for this card then. I'll stick the SPPT's. THANK YOU!

 

[Hacktacular]

Have there been any updates on this? I have the same card and would like to flash it.

 

[TheBrokenBeast]

I did not manage to get any further with flashing the card. Playing in the SPPT's worked well enough. However, my card developed a problem in which after the fan would ramp up, it would only decrease speed at about 2-3% every few seconds. Quite annoying after closing a taxing game. Ended up returning the card. Good luck

 

[Hacktacular]

I did not manage to get any further with flashing the card. Playing in the SPPT's worked well enough. However, my card developed a problem in which after the fan would ramp up, it would only decrease speed at about 2-3% every few seconds. Quite annoying after closing a taxing game. Ended up returning the card. Good luck

Thanks. I am trying that now but it seems to be crashing the card.

Ok I was able to flash the card using the command line. I tool a chance and it worked. So far though I don't seem to be able to push the card much without it crashing.
What is the preferred tool to overclock these 5700's? It seems the AMD Radeon software keeps crashing. I am getting 1999 @1200mv but if I try to push it much further it crashes.

Any tips or advice?

 

[eidairaman1]

I did not manage to get any further with flashing the card. Playing in the SPPT's worked well enough. However, my card developed a problem in which after the fan would ramp up, it would only decrease speed at about 2-3% every few seconds. Quite annoying after closing a taxing game. Ended up returning the card. Good luck

Thats MSI for you. If anything I would of Gone Asus, Sapphire, AsRock, Powercolor, XFX, maybe Gigabyte...

Thanks. I am trying that now but it seems to be crashing the card.

Ok I was able to flash the card using the command line. I tool a chance and it worked. So far though I don't seem to be able to push the card much without it crashing.
What is the preferred tool to overclock these 5700's? It seems the AMD Radeon software keeps crashing. I am getting 1999 @1200mv but if I try to push it much further it crashes.

Any tips or advice?

You hit the top. Be content you got anything for free from it.

 

[Hacktacular]

Thats MSI for you. If anything I would of Gone Asus, Sapphire, AsRock, Powercolor, XFX, maybe Gigabyte...



You hit the top. Be content you got anything for free from it.

Wow, alright then. Thanks.

 

[Morty82]

Hi there,

I have the 5700 non XT version, I would like to try the bios flash so what would the command for admin prompt be?

i have a spare gpu + onboard to flash stock

 

[Hacktacular]

Run CMD as admin from the amd flash folder. Be sure your bios is backed up first. Then I just ran the following commands.

amdvbflashWin.exe - unlockrom 0

Wait for prompt. You should see a pop-up confirming unlock.

amdvbflashWin.exe - f - p 0 examplebios.rom

You will see a progress box and get confirmation as well.

Credits:
SerpentSFX YouTube
Also the folks in this link.

TechPowerUp

www.techpowerup.com

 

[eidairaman1]

Hi there,

I have the 5700 non XT version, I would like to try the bios flash so what would the command for admin prompt be?

i have a spare gpu + onboard to flash stock

You need a specific bios, get a gpu-z screenshot and white sticker pic from card back