MSI X570 Motherboards Start Upward of 200€

[kapone32]

The X570 mobos don't give a single advantage for average users. PCI-E 4.0 zero advantage for SSDs in everyday use (SATA and NvME SSD Win, app and game load times are identical), etc. Keep your earlier AM4 (except for A320), or buy a B450-X470.



You can change your CPU without changing your mobo.

Well a WIfi 10Gbit wireless card would be advantageous......if your ISP had that option on your router....hehe

 

[TheLostSwede]

The X570 mobos don't give a single advantage for average users. PCI-E 4.0 zero advantage for SSDs in everyday use (SATA and NvME SSD Win, app and game load times are identical), etc. Keep your earlier AM4 (except for A320), or buy a B450-X470.

And you know this how? I presume this means you've tested them with a 3000-series CPU and compared it to the same CPU running on an X470 board?

For those with X370 boards, it looks like a worthwhile upgrade, since the X370 platform lacks features that the 400 and 500 series boards have. I guess the same is true for B350.
You also get some additional new connectivity with the X570, all in native form, rather than via additional chipsets that is the case on older boards.
So to say there are no advantages, isn't exactly true. And until we get some actual reviews and comparisons out there, we don't really know if there are advantages or not, at least not beyond the still fairly limited information AMD has shared.

Well a WIfi 10Gbit wireless card would be advantageous......if your ISP had that option on your router....hehe

Sorry, what?

In the US, the X570 Aorus Extreme is already listed for $299.89... That's wrong the other way around...

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme (rev 1.0) Socket AM4 Motherboard

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme (rev 1.0) Socket AM4 Motherboard

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[kapone32]

And you know this how? I presume this means you've tested them with a 3000-series CPU and compared it to the same CPU running on an X470 board?

For those with X370 boards, it looks like a worthwhile upgrade, since the X370 platform lacks features that the 400 and 500 series boards have. I guess the same is true for B350.
You also get some additional new connectivity with the X570, all in native form, rather than via additional chipsets that is the case on older boards.
So to say there are no advantages, isn't exactly true. And until we get some actual reviews and comparisons out there, we don't really know if there are advantages or not, at least not beyond the still fairly limited information AMD has shared.



Sorry, what?

In the US, the X570 Aorus Extreme is already listed for $299.89... That's wrong the other way around...

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme (rev 1.0) Socket AM4 Motherboard

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme (rev 1.0) Socket AM4 Motherboard

www.outletpc.com

This might be interesting to some of you as well...

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Discounted $100 from the $399 regular price? I see that it is already out of stock and that is probably why. The thing I don't like about the X570 is that we now get 40 lanes in total of PCI_E goodness but they are still wired as 16,8 and 4 for the 16 slots. I knew that all the boards would come with 2 to 3 NVME slots but who is going to buy 2 or 3 NVME drives at the prices for PCI_E 4.0 NVME drives to apply that? In all honesty the TR4 socket will look very attractive once X570 is released. The As Rock Aqua is more than double the cost of the GIgabyte X399 Designaire that may not have PCI_E 4.0 but is better in many ways than any X570 board.

 

[TheLostSwede]

ASRock X570 Taichi teardown

http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=hottopic&wr_id=10833&ckattempt=1

 

[IceShroom]

ASRock X570 Taichi teardown

http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=hottopic&wr_id=10833&ckattempt=1

Not much of fins in the chipset heatsink!!! If chipset realy need that much cooling then there should be lots of fins in chipset heatsink, but here we are seeing the opposite.
So I have a question for mobo manufacture, Is chipset fan realy necessary? Or you mobo guys spending money on real necessary thing like RGB??

 

[zo0lykas]

and anyway if no x590, for that top mb x570 800 quid is far to much :/
we know next year amd get new socket so very sad and disappoint of this pricing tag

Urgh, there really, really, really won't be an X590 chipset, pinky swear.
It was a potential name and Gigabyte left it in their UEFI strings, but it was not used and will not be used.
Everyone is linking back something Computerbase dug up in a UEFI file. That's not proof of a new chipset.

 

[Tomorrow]

and anyway if no x590, for that top mb x570 800 quid is far to much :/
we know next year amd get new socket so very sad and disappoint of this pricing tag

Likely there is no X590 and no new socket next year. Whatever they end up launching next year, be it Zen2+ or Zen3 will be on AM4. Possibly even Zen4 on 2021. Only in 2022 we will get AM5, DDR5 and PCIe 5.0

 

[nemesis.ie]

@zo0lykas I think the new socket will be 2021 as @Tomorrow says.

They said AM4 will be good to 2020, I think that includes 2020 - 4 years of life was what was said I think.

 

[Dristun]

Not much of fins in the chipset heatsink!!! If chipset realy need that much cooling then there should be lots of fins in chipset heatsink, but here we are seeing the opposite.
So I have a question for mobo manufacture, Is chipset fan realy necessary? Or you mobo guys spending money on real necessary thing like RGB??

Agreed, looks dumb. Surely a good fin-stack copper heatsink would suffice instead of this? If height is a problem you could, like, connect it with a heatpipe to another next to it somewhere. Not ideal, but would probably work.
Instead we get ridiculous aluminum shrouds all over the mobo that don't even look pretty.

 

[lukart]

ASRock X570 Taichi teardown

http://www.hwbattle.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=hottopic&wr_id=10833&ckattempt=1

That Taichi looks insane. If it keeps the same as the previous AM4 Taichi's reputation, that will be my next motherboard.
Can't wait to see some reviews, better,to see them listed online together with the Ryzen 3700 X.
It seems that the Ryzen 3700X will be a overclocking gem, will be match made in heaven with this motherboard

 

[nemesis.ie]

It (ASRock TC) also seems to use a T topology for its RAM which is great for those of us using 4 sticks.

 

[Franzen4Real]

That Taichi looks insane. If it keeps the same as the previous AM4 Taichi's reputation, that will be my next motherboard.
Can't wait to see some reviews, better,to see them listed online together with the Ryzen 3700 X.
It seems that the Ryzen 3700X will be a overclocking gem, will be match made in heaven with this motherboard

That board would make a pretty cool match with the KUDAN 2080ti (if you're into the steampunk aesthetic)

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[RoutedScripter]

So I need to pay +500$ for a bunch of power/reset buttons and a digital number display, the industry has lost it's mind.

The problem is that there's a gap of offering, huge one, so many things on the premium boards I don't need, and so many things on the lower end that's missing.

I want all the what I consider standard stuff: debug stuff, buttons, boot leds, boot codes, dual bios, bios select switch, more sata ports, great onboard audio, no gigabit 10 but 2.5 bonus, no wifi, no extreme OC, 2 M2 ports are enough, 1 PCIE 16x enough and other can be less. That's pretty much it, motherboards really have so much stuff and define the expandability and possibilities of the whole system and it's not truly modular, it's really annoying why can't we choose over more M2 or more Sata ports, these things should be modular, there could be a HW/SW switch to enable disable some ports so you can stay within bandwidth limits.

 

[Midland Dog]

amd is just as scummy as intel, boycot cpus until windows can run on opencl!

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yes it will be
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[kings]

I think it´s the first test of the X570 boards fan noise.

If this happens only with PCIe 4.0 at work is somewhat ok, since most people will not make use of it.

But, If this chipset needs constant active cooling, it is going to be very annoying.

 

[nemesis.ie]

It looks like the mic was very close, a board inside a case at >30cm should be much quieter. It will be interesting to see (hear) how it compares with other boards.

An actual db measurement (and the distance, like TPU does) might tell us more, as we have no clue what the mic gain was etc. all the video really helps portray is the tone of the sound.

 

[EarthDog]

It's a good thing the cpus are cheaper.... though buying a 'proper' motherboard for it can wash away all that savings.