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After the B650 livemixer i ordered the x670e GAMING PLUS WIFI but the sata card still doesn't work.
Is there some known to work sata cards for am5 ?
and is there a problem with irq and this type of shits that could make the system not recognize the card ?
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It would help if you gave us some basic information about your system. Like your current system specs including installed M.2 drives, what slot the card is installed into, and what other expansion cards you have and where they are installed.
 
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It would help if you gave us some basic information about your system. Like your current system specs including installed M.2 drives, what slot the card is installed into, and what other expansion cards you have and where they are installed.
Yup forgott that part...
So i have a sata card that uses the asm1166 chip in the PCIe 3.0 x1 slot that isnt recognized by the system.
The only other expansion card that is in here is my 6700xt in the x16 PCIe slot. As for the m.2 drives, only one is installed, it's an NV2 and is in the cpu slot.
BIOS ver is the latest and is at stock settings.
I know that the card works in other pc (b550,990x,p67 and h110) but not on the am5 boards that i tested (b650 livemixer an the x670e gaming plus wifi).
 

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Is this a fresh install or just moved to OS to the new computer?
 
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Yup forgott that part...
So i have a sata card that uses the asm1166 chip in the PCIe 3.0 x1 slot that isnt recognized by the system.
The only other expansion card that is in here is my 6700xt in the x16 PCIe slot. As for the m.2 drives, only one is installed, it's an NV2 and is in the cpu slot.
BIOS ver is the latest and is at stock settings.
I know that the card works in other pc (b550,990x,p67 and h110) but not on the am5 boards that i tested (b650 livemixer an the x670e gaming plus wifi).
The reason I asked about PCIe devices is because AMD platforms lack PCIe lanes so you often end up with shenanigans whereby installing an M.2 disables a PCIe slot. I know your motrherboard supposedly doesn't suffer from that but it never hurts to double-check, and we can rule that out now.

The fact that you have tested this and can't get it to work on two AM5 boards, strongly suggests to me that there may be an incompatibility. I found this thread that suggests there's a compatibility problem between ASM1166 and Intel 600-series boards, maybe there is a similar issue with Zen 5? You could always try flashing the firmware in that thread, but it does seem that this particular chipset is a POS with various other issues and it might just be best to try something else using e.g. Marvell 88SE92xx.

Alternatively you can shell out for a proper SAS card like the old LSIs that are a dime a dozen on Ebay. However these are limited to PCIe 2.0 so you will need at least 4 lanes and on your system that's already an ask.
 
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The fact that you have tested this and can't get it to work on two AM5 boards, strongly suggests to me that there may be an incompatibility. I found this thread that suggests there's a compatibility problem between ASM1166 and Intel 600-series boards, maybe there is a similar issue with Zen 5?
Thanks man, I'd never have thought about firmware, I'll try when time will be available.
 

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Well that rules out driver issues or path letter conflicts. Ive had PCie M.2 cards not work because they were technically AIC cards. Some motherboards just dot support it.

is the SATA PCIe card not showing up in Windows with the drivers installed, or is it throwing errors in the device manager?
 
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is the SATA PCIe card not showing up in Windows with the drivers installed, or is it throwing errors in the device manager?
Does not show on windows nor linux
 

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And you confirmed it works on another system?
 
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Have you tried downshifting the speed on the PCIe slot you have the card installed?

Does your card look something like this? I have an 8 port version I can try in my LiveMixer and see if it works.
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For some reason these type of add in cards don't seem to work well with modern systems. I have experienced what the OP has with USB cards and if you don't have a driver for a sound card good luck.
 
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Yes in 3.0 and 2.0

yes but mine is a 10 port model. but it's that one.
If it works on yours what's the firmware rev ?
thx
I ran out of time today to try it so will have to try it sometime tomorrow. I had to comb though my purchase history but I found info on the model I have which uses and older ASMedia ASM1064 chip (actually 2 chips on this board for 8 ports) instead. I've tried it on my X570 with Windows 10 and Linux Mint 21.x and did not have to install any drivers manually, it just worked. I'm not aware of how to see any firmware revision as it didn't offer any additional option rom info or setup to load when posting. Although it was sold under Syba products I think it's just some generic card sold under multiple brands.

I forgot why but something I read at the time led me to the path of choosing one with ASMedia chipset instead of Jmicron. The 10 port version of this card that looks very similar to the 8 port uses the Jmicon chipset. If by some chance you have your specs wrong (such as from a bad Amazon listing) and you actually have a jmicron chip you might try do download the jmicron driver from the link I provided.

If you have your specs wrong and actually have a jmicron chip the difference other than the drivers could be the following listed below. I suppose it might open the possibility that these newer AM5 boards need a card with the higher ACHI compatibility - maybe - as I am not sure if that is even a factor in the problem you are having.
  • (as advertised) The ASM1064 is compliance Serial ATA AHCI Spec. Rev. 1.3, Serial ATA Rev. 3.0
  • (as advertised) The Jmicron is compliance Serial ATA AHCI Spec. Rev. 1.0, Serial ATA Rev. 3.0

Another thing you can try is toggling CSM in your UEFI/BIOS and see if that works.


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I found this thread on TPU https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...d-firmware-for-asmedia-asm106x-series.264571/ .
Between the link Assimilator provided and this it looks like cards with ASMedia chips are a real shit show, I had no idea.
Lucky me I guess I didn't have any issues although I just use it for DVD drives not HDD or flash.

Looking back I paid a somewhat dumb $118 for my card but I needed one compatible for DVD's. I've never used an LSI SAS/SATA card but on Ebay you can also get an Areca ARC-1882i RAID Storage Controller (just make sure it's the PCIe 3.0 revision and has the latest firmware) for about $50 with 1GB cache which would run circles round the Asmedia ones however you would need an x4 slot. The drivers are recent for Windows 10 (and per the website has lots of other current drivers). Theoretically in both the motherboards you listed could support that type of card in the bottom x4 slot. I have the ARC-1882i running in my x570 so if you want to consider that option I could also test it out in my LiveMixer and let you know if it works before you attempt to buy such a card. Obviously being a used card you never know how much time your going to get out of it before it kicks the can but for only $50 it was totally worth it for my use case.
 
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I had to comb though my purchase history but I found info on the model I have which uses and older ASMedia ASM1064 chip (actually 2 chips on this board for 8 ports) instead.
Mine is a asm1166 an wich has 6 sata ports, 4 goes to the top of the board and the 2 others go to the jmb575 sata splitter/hub. But since it's only the asmedia chip that is connected to the system why would the other chip cause incompatibility ?
I've tried it on my X570 with Windows 10 and Linux Mint 21.x and did not have to install any drivers manually, it just worked.
Behaved the same on am4 and am3+.
The 10 port version of this card that looks very similar to the 8 port uses the Jmicon chipset. If by some chance you have your specs wrong (such as from a bad Amazon listing) and you actually have a jmicron chip you might try do download the jmicron driver from the link I provided.
If it's not connected to the system, why would it need drivers, since it's a hub ?
If you have your specs wrong and actually have a jmicron chip the difference other than the drivers could be the following listed below. I suppose it might open the possibility that these newer AM5 boards need a card with the higher ACHI compatibility - maybe - as I am not sure if that is even a factor in the problem you are having.
Would be very surprising.
Looking back I paid a somewhat dumb $118
Damn thats high, mine was 60€

Here's mine.
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Chip on left in asm1166. Chip on right is jmb575.
 
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Mine is a asm1166 an wich has 6 sata ports, 4 goes to the top of the board and the 2 others go to the jmb575 sata splitter/hub. But since it's only the asmedia chip that is connected to the system why would the other chip cause incompatibility ?
You have visual confirmation of your chips now so this part of the discussion is moot.
Behaved the same on am4 and am3+.
Then I guess we are simply back to it just might not work in AM5 due to incompatibility possibly related to firmware of the card.
If it's not connected to the system, why would it need drivers, since it's a hub ?
Doesn't everything you plug in these days need drivers? Anyway it seems I don't have any specific Asmedia drivers installed but it's using the standard SATA ACHI Controller driver.
But in your case your system isn't even seeing the device at all correct? No "unknown device" listed in Device Manager and you can't see any connected disks in UEFI/BIOS though that card?
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Would be very surprising.

Damn thats high, mine was 60€

Here's mine.
Chip on left in asm1166. Chip on right is jmb575.
I'll pop my card in the LiveMixer today and see if it works.
 
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in your case your system isn't even seeing the device at all correct?
Yes, nothing detected.
No "unknown device" listed in Device Manager and you can't see any connected disks in UEFI/BIOS though that card?
Nope and linux doesnt see it either.

Anyway it seems I don't have any specific Asmedia drivers installed but it's using the standard SATA ACHI Controller driver.
I also never installed drivers for it.
 

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MSI doesn't give a damn about expansion cards.
They are toy boards for gamers who don't use expansion cards. MSI still manages to recognize cards with their own boot ROM.
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I've popped in the bottom slot of my LiveMixer and at least one port is working with an laptop HDD. (I didn't bother to test all ports)

Looks like Windows installed 2 standard SATA ACHI controller for my card. Perhaps I got lucky but it appears to be working.

I think your best shot is to get a different card maybe Marvell 88SE92xx or LSI card as Assimilator suggested or some other relatively inexpensive SATA/SAS controller from Ebay. If anything I've noticed about my card with only 8 ports it will bottleneck speeds when at least 6 of them are used at the same time.

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I've popped in the bottom slot of my LiveMixer and at least one port is working with an laptop HDD. (I didn't bother to test all ports)

Looks like Windows installed 2 standard SATA ACHI controller for my card.

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Thanks man, the last thing that could indicate why that damn card doesnt work on that damn board is : what firmware version is it?
You can have that info by using the software that silverstone gives for the firmware update for their sata card (using the asm1166, file should be attached).
 

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So I just flashed the firmware of the sata card using the rom that silverstone provides and now it shows that it has 32 sata ports, and i don't know if it was doing that before.
Is there a "fix" for this or a new firmware or is it just fucked ?
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EDIT : just seen it now, there's only one device connected to it (dvd drive) so why are port 6 and 7 disappearing ?
 
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So I just flashed the firmware of the sata card using the rom that silverstone provides and now it shows that it has 32 sata ports, and i don't know if it was doing that before.
Is there a "fix" for this or a new firmware or is it just fucked ?View attachment 369125
EDIT : just seen it now, there's only one device connected to it (dvd drive) so why are port 6 and 7 disappearing ?
From that thread I linked you to, seems the 32 ports thing is pretty common.
 
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So I just flashed the firmware of the sata card using the rom that silverstone provides and now it shows that it has 32 sata ports, and i don't know if it was doing that before.
Is there a "fix" for this or a new firmware or is it just fucked ?View attachment 369125
EDIT : just seen it now, there's only one device connected to it (dvd drive) so why are port 6 and 7 disappearing ?
Have you testing all your physical ports individually or in combination with multiple devices? Do they all work?
 
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