Need a 4k curved monitor

[GamingLove]

Hi all,

i want to upgrade my monitor with a good 4k new one. I'm not into monitor stuff so I need some help please.
At the moment I have a 27 inch curved Samsung monitor which is great but it cant run 4k resolution.
I really like curved monitors and I was wondering if there is a good one that can run 4k games.

Can you give me some advice please?

Thank you all

 

[Todestrieb]

What physical size do you have in mind?
Do you need super high refresh rate? (not that 4K can go super high, 240Hz in this case)
Is "curved" an absolute requirement? If so, do you have any requirements on the curvature?
Any display tech you prefer?
How much money are you willing to pay?
(In case OLED is in your price range) how long do you plan on using the monitor for things other than gaming and video on a daily basis?

And there are guys here who don't want OLED because fear of burn-in issues.

I'm not the best person to ask about monitors, but I think these questions have to be answered for others to recommend anything.

With that said, I think a Samsung Neo G7 (32" VA, 165Hz, 1000R) would probably fit your needs. Or if you can afford an OLED, Alienware AW3225QF.

 

[GamingLove]

Hi,

thanks for your reply!
As I said I'm not into monitor things so I cant really reply to your questions. At the moment I'm using a Samsung Odissey G6 27 inch curved monitor.
Curved is not really necessary but I learned to quite like it over flat monitor.
As for size let say that the G6 is perfect but most of the 4K curved ones I saw like the ones from MSI are far more large.
I would like to avoid to have black bands on each side when playing.
As for the rest of the specifications I really dont know: I will uprgrade to a 4080 or 4090 GPU so I wolud like to have a nice monitor to play with.

Thanks again

 

[Bill_Bright]

Curved is not really necessary but I learned to quite like it over flat monitor.

It is definitely a personal preference thing.

Sadly, you didn't really answer Todestrieb's questions. You say you like 27" but then say you like the larger ones from MSI. So again, what size are you looking for?

You also didn't answer the question about price.

 

[GamingLove]

Hi,

I said that 27 inch is the actual size of my Samsung G6 which is a good one. But as I said, I saw other curved monitors and in general the ones that can run 4k resolution are 32 inch or larger. I think 32 inch should be the maximum size like the G7 he told me to look for, which it looks quite a good monitor to me. As for the price I think 700-800 € would be the maximum price. Asus, MSI, Gigabyte monitors are quite expensive and looks like the are pretto the same as the Samsung G7.

 

[Zach_01]

So, your monitor right now is this:



Panel: 27", VA, HDR
Resolution: 2560x1440 (16:9 ratio)
RefreshRate: 240Hz, FreeSync Premium Pro
Curved: 1000R
ResponseTime: 1ms (GTG)

Since this is already a gaming monitor, games are the primary usage right?
Why dont you start by filling you system specifications in your profile page, so everyone knows what the system is capable of, because higher resolutions require higher GPU power for the same game graphical settings.

What dont you like about the current monitor?
What is your viewing distance?

Do you really need/want more dense pixels?
Do you just need/want bigger screen?
Do you need/want greater viewing angles, as wider?
What type of games you play?

I would like to avoid to have black bands on each side when playing.

This is not an issue... what ever resolution the monitor has there is a setting for it in games.
Black bars/bands on the sides is only a movie/video thing

I have this:



This is a 34" curved ultra wide 3440x1440 (21:9 ratio) and games fitting perfectly.
It has the exact same physical height and resolution (1440) with your G6 but adds 440 pixels on each side to a total of 3440 (from 2560) for greater viewing angles.

I dont think that you will find easy anything with 4K res (3840x2160, 16:9 ratio) at lower than 31.5-32 inches.
There are many 32-40" curved 4K monitors around the 600-800€ price range in EU.
4K is somewhat expensive and most of monitors up to 800€ are with VA panels and with a refresh rate range of 144-200Hz. There maybe some with 240Hz too if this is a requirement.

 

[dgianstefani]

Samsung Odyssey has options in the range.

 

[GamingLove]

Hi,

Thank you for your reply.
My system is:
Core i5 12700K
EVGA 3080 VGA
32GB DDR4 3777 Gigabyte RAM
Gigabyte Z790 Gaming edition
2 NVMe 1T hard disk
1 SSD 1T hard disk
Gigabyte AiO liquid cooler
BeQuiet 850W PSU

The PC is for gaming only. Woth this PC at a resolution of 2560x1440 i can run all my games maxed out, from AC Valhalla, Cyberpunk 2077, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Elden Ring and so on. With Cyberpunk I need to use DLSS because woth max setting is really demanding.
As I will upgrade with a 4080 super VGA, I first need to upgrade the monitor to play in 4K, and this is why I'm asking for an advice.

Thanks again

So, your monitor right now is this:

View attachment 378223

Panel: 27", VA, HDR
Resolution: 2560x1440 (16:9 ratio)
RefreshRate: 240Hz, FreeSync Premium Pro
Curved: 1000R
ResponseTime: 1ms (GTG)

Since this is already a gaming monitor, games are the primary usage right?
Why dont you start by filling you system specifications in your profile page, so everyone knows what the system is capable of, because higher resolutions require higher GPU power for the same game graphical settings.

What dont you like about the current monitor?
What is your viewing distance?

Do you really need/want more dense pixels?
Do you just need/want bigger screen?
Do you need/want greater viewing angles, as wider?
What type of games you play?


This is not an issue... what ever resolution the monitor has there is a setting for it in games.
Black bars/bands on the sides is only a movie/video thing

I have this:

View attachment 378230

This is a 34" curved ultra wide 3440x1440 (21:9 ratio) and games fitting perfectly.
It has the exact same physical height and resolution (1440) with your G6 but adds 440 pixels on each side to a total of 3440 (from 2560) for greater viewing angles.

I dont think that you will find easy anything with 4K res (3840x2160, 16:9 ratio) at lower than 31.5-32 inches.
There are many 32-40" curved 4K monitors around the 600-800€ price range in EU.
4K is somewhat expensive and most of monitors up to 800€ are with VA panels and with a refresh rate range of 144-200Hz. There maybe some with 240Hz too if this is a requirement.

 

[dgianstefani]

Hi,

Thank you for your reply.
My system is:
Core i5 12700K
EVGA 3080 VGA
32GB DDR4 3777 Gigabyte RAM
Gigabyte Z790 Gaming edition
2 NVMe 1T hard disk
1 SSD 1T hard disk
Gigabyte AiO liquid cooler
BeQuiet 850W PSU

The PC is for gaming only. Woth this PC at a resolution of 2560x1440 i can run all my games maxed out, from AC Valhalla, Cyberpunk 2077, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Elden Ring and so on. With Cyberpunk I need to use DLSS because woth max setting is really demanding.
As I will upgrade with a 4080 super VGA, I first need to upgrade the monitor to play in 4K, and this is why I'm asking for an advice.

Thanks again

Do not buy a 4080S, 5080 is releasing in two weeks.

 

[Chrispy_]

What's your budget?

4K Curved is at the higher end of the market, and most manufacturers are making OLED only, or mostly OLED models for this class of display now.

If you don't want OLED, then you're looking at a 4K VA panel and your best source of info for that is probably the Monitors Unboxed channel run by Tim from HUB.

The other solid sources with a lot of monitor reviews are RTINGS.com and TFTCentral.co.uk

 

[Zach_01]

Price range said 700-800€ (post #5)
Thats why I said at this range its going to be a VA panel.
OPs current monitor is VA. The only thing that he is after is 4K.

 

[GamingLove]

What's your budget?

4K Curved is at the higher end of the market, and most manufacturers are making OLED only, or mostly OLED models for this class of display now.

If you don't want OLED, then you're looking at a 4K VA panel and your best source of info for that is probably the Monitors Unboxed channel run by Tim from HUB.

The other solid sources with a lot of monitor reviews are RTINGS.com and TFTCentral.co.uk

Lets say that when in action, i cant really tell the difference between OLED and other technolgies. As you said the curved monitors I saw are all OLED and thats why they are so expensive. As someone said Samsung seems to have some options in curved models and they are inside my price range.
I will give a look at your sites to have some more infornations, thank you!

Do not buy a 4080S, 5080 is releasing in two weeks.

OT: I saw, but they will be really expensive wont they?
The 4080 super looked nice from Techpowerup reviews.

 

[Zach_01]

Lets say that when in action, i cant really tell the difference between OLED and other technolgies. As you said the curved monitors I saw are all OLED and thats why they are so expensive. As someone said Samsung seems to have some options in curved models and they are inside my price range.
I will give a look at your sites to have some more infornations, thank you!

I am not going to try to convince you to get an OLED, but did you ever see or game on OLED HDR?
No other like it. Deep/true blacks, highest contrast, wide color range, and the fastest pixels ever.
If you never see one up close, then you dont know the difference from VA.
I have one for almost 2 years now.

OT: I saw, but they will be really expensive wont they?
The 4080 super looked nice from Techpowerup reviews.

Yes it will be expensive but you can wait a couple of weeks to see how the whole stack is going to be on prices.
I know that here in EU 4080super prices start now from around 1100€, and the 5080 probably will start at 1500-1600 if not more.

 

[Chrispy_]

I am not going to try to convince you to get an OLED, but did you ever see or game on OLED HDR?
No other like it. Deep/true blacks, highest contrast, wide color range, and the fastest pixels ever.
If you never see one up close, then you dont know the difference from VA.
I have one for almost 2 years now.


Yes it will be expensive but you can wait a couple of weeks to see how the whole stack is going to be on prices.
I know that here in EU 4080super prices start now from around 1100€, and the 5080 probably will start at 1500-1600 if not more.

I have OLED and VA here, both at 240Hz and the difference isn't actually that bad. Modern VA with 6000:1 native, FALD backlights and strobing really are a viable OLED alternative, IMO.

The problem with VA is that a decent VA is not cheap, some of the expensive VAs are not decent, and so many of the VAs on sale are both cheap and bad. Unless you're very diligent in your research and selection, you are likely to end up with a bad or mediocre VA experience, which is why OLED is gaining traction at the high end, I think.

 

[kapone32]

27" Curved will feel smaller than 27"flat. I would go with 32 to appreciate it and don't get too deep of a curve.

I have OLED and VA here, both at 240Hz and the difference isn't actually that bad. Modern VA with 6000:1 native, FALD backlights and strobing really are a viable OLED alternative, IMO.

The problem with VA is that a decent VA is not cheap, some of the expensive VAs are not decent, and so many of the VAs on sale are both cheap and bad. Unless you're very diligent in your research and selection, you are likely to end up with a bad or mediocre VA experience, which is why OLED is gaining traction at the high end, I think.

I love my FV43U.

 

[Zach_01]

Probably something like the Odyssey Neo G7 32" will fit the needs/wants of OP
Its VA, 4K, 165Hz, HDR and Curved just like OP's current monitor (1000R).
And its pretty good for its price (probably <700€).

Alternatively the Odyssey Neo G8 which is about the same as Neo G7 but 240Hz at ~800€.
If OP is not after ultra high FPS gaming then the 165Hz Neo G7 will suffice.

What's your budget?

4K Curved is at the higher end of the market, and most manufacturers are making OLED only, or mostly OLED models for this class of display now.

If you don't want OLED, then you're looking at a 4K VA panel and your best source of info for that is probably the Monitors Unboxed channel run by Tim from HUB.

The other solid sources with a lot of monitor reviews are RTINGS.com and TFTCentral.co.uk

The Odyssey Neo G7 is marked by Tim from HUB as a great value 4k HDR.



The content for the Best non OLED 4K HDR starts at 8:22

 

[GamingLove]

I am not going to try to convince you to get an OLED, but did you ever see or game on OLED HDR?
No other like it. Deep/true blacks, highest contrast, wide color range, and the fastest pixels ever.
If you never see one up close, then you dont know the difference from VA.
I have one for almost 2 years now.


Yes it will be expensive but you can wait a couple of weeks to see how the whole stack is going to be on prices.
I know that here in EU 4080super prices start now from around 1100€, and the 5080 probably will start at 1500-1600 if not more.

Well no, I never saw any OLED monitor in action. Tech markets here do not display them and they have really a little selection of monitors, so I have to buy online and gather informations from you guys to choose a good one. As I cant see any OLED live action I have to assume that, as you said, they are really good but have higher price. To have a batter immage quality I could spend a little more.

As for the GPU I will see whats the price at launch. I saw 4080 super unter 1000€ here so its a good optional at the moment l. But as I said, first I need a good monitor to exploit the new GPU.

27" Curved will feel smaller than 27"flat. I would go with 32 to appreciate it and don't get too deep of a curve.

I love my FV43U.

32 inch is the maximum size I think. I play at 40-50 cm from the screen, so 43 inch would be a little bit too large to handle woth my eyes.

So if I go for a non OLED monitor, the Neo G9 would be a good choice.
But if OLED is that better which model should I go for? Lets say that 32 or 34 inch should be the maximum size.

Thank you all again

 

[kapone32]

Well no, I never saw any OLED monitor in action. Tech markets here do not display them and they have really a little selection of monitors, so I have to buy online and gather informations from you guys to choose a good one. As I cant see any OLED live action I have to assume that, as you said, they are really good but have higher price. To have a batter immage quality I could spend a little more.

As for the GPU I will see whats the price at launch. I saw 4080 super unter 1000€ here so its a good optional at the moment l. But as I said, first I need a good monitor to exploit the new GPU.


32 inch is the maximum size I think. I play at 40-50 cm from the screen, so 43 inch would be a little bit too large to handle woth my eyes.

Monitor size is totally subjective.

 

[phanbuey]

Well no, I never saw any OLED monitor in action. Tech markets here do not display them and they have really a little selection of monitors, so I have to buy online and gather informations from you guys to choose a good one. As I cant see any OLED live action I have to assume that, as you said, they are really good but have higher price. To have a batter immage quality I could spend a little more.

As for the GPU I will see whats the price at launch. I saw 4080 super unter 1000€ here so its a good optional at the moment l. But as I said, first I need a good monitor to exploit the new GPU.


32 inch is the maximum size I think. I play at 40-50 cm from the screen, so 43 inch would be a little bit too large to handle woth my eyes.

So if I go for a non OLED monitor, the Neo G9 would be a good choice.
But if OLED is that better which model should I go for? Lets say that 32 or 34 inch should be the maximum size.

Thank you all again

I used to think this and I went from my 48" CX tv to a 32" gaming oled. I miss my 48" -- the level of immersion was so good on the TV.

 

[GamingLove]

I used to think this and I went from my 48" CX tv to a 32" gaming oled. I miss my 48" -- the level of immersion was so good on the TV.

Yes I think it totally different, but for PC gaming I prefer my desk. I got a 65 inch TV for console gaming.