New build dilema...

AtiAmd · Monday at 5:02 PM

Hi all.

I just wanted to ask you guys what would you get. In 10 days i will be picking up parts. I got two choices - Am4 or 1700. I watched a lot of videos and reviews and i think i will get Intel...probably

They come very close..

Intel build

12100f OC 5.0 ghz+
Asrock b760m ripide
2x16 ddr5 Patriot 6000 cl 30

Amd

5600x
Msi pro 550 a
2x16 ddr4 viper 3600 cl18

Msi mag 550w
Rx 6700 sapphire pulse

Keep in mind that i would want in distant future update both system with better cpus like 13600k or 5800x/3d editions and gpu.

If i go with Intel i could buy used ddr5 patriot 6400 cl32. Official Patriot support said they dont recommend that fast memory but i think i could still get them and manually oc them as i will be oc 12100f anyway. I wont use their full 6400 potencial but i could use them for future 13600k build...price of new 6000 and used 6400 are very similar - 6400 are a little cheaper.

I think i should go with Intel...even after overclock 12100f takes almost half the power of 5600x

What are your thoughts?

dirtyferret · Monday at 5:10 PM

AtiAmd said:
13600k or 5800x/3d editions and gpu

what games will you play that can take advantage of either CPU?

Harlow · Monday at 5:12 PM

Hmm. 4-core 8-thread 3.3GHz i3-12100F vs 6-core 12-thread 3.7GHz 5600X, I think I'd go for more threads. Just a personal choice.

AtiAmd · Monday at 5:12 PM

I play everything mate apart from lame turn based games

Im very looking forward to Resident Evil 9

Macro Device · Monday at 5:30 PM

5600X, even despite 12100F being juiced to its maximum, is parring 12400F, so in whatever games where you can't have enough threads the AM4 option will win. Sometimes marginally, sometimes significantly.

However, CPUs like 13600K beat ANYTHING AM4 in gaming, even X3D parts are slower. I don't even mention huge advantage in professional workloads.

What I would've done is buying an LGA1700 system, selling that i3 instantly and slotting 12400F to juice it to 5 GHz and forget about upgrades till both AM4 and LGA1700 become as outdated as LGA1155 is now.

AtiAmd · Monday at 5:36 PM

That 5600x or 12100f will need to stay for at least 1 year...
Thats why i would favor Intel...get fast 32 gb ddr5 memory now and in some time just switch cpus and gpus...hopefuly rtx 4070 super and thats it...

dirtyferret · Monday at 5:41 PM

AtiAmd said:
I play everything mate apart from lame turn based games Im very looking forward to Resident Evil 9

I think you would have to be honest with yourself on your CPU upgrade schedule. Out of the box the 5600x is the better system. Once you bring in CPUs like the 5700/5800X3D and 13600k with DDR5, it becomes game specific although with more modest GPUs the difference between the two would be closer together.

Bobaganoosh · Monday at 5:56 PM

You can get a 12400F for cheaper than the 5600X and 13400F for a little more. I'd do that before expecting a 4-core to keep up with gaming well. the 13400F should last you quite a while too.

AtiAmd · Monday at 6:03 PM

Bobaganoosh said:
You can get a 12400F for cheaper than the 5600X and 13400F for a little more. I'd do that before expecting a 4-core to keep up with gaming well. the 13400F should last you quite a while too.

Nah, i made the all calculations needed for my tight budget. Ddr5 memory is much more expensive than ddr4 so the b760m mobo from b550.

And you are underestimate that 4 little cores.

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eidairaman1 · Monday at 7:13 PM

And what about a 7000 series AM5?

AtiAmd · Monday at 7:18 PM

My budget for mobo,ram and cpu with cooler is $300ish

Azma · Tuesday at 8:29 AM

I just built a system with a 12400f and Asrock B760M PG Riptide! OCed to 5GHz all core, on a cheap Thermalright 120mm cooler, system is super snappy and nice! 790 singel/ 6100 multi core score running CPU-Z. Fun doing some BLCK OC too!

AtiAmd · Tuesday at 8:58 AM

Azma said:
I just built a system with a 12400f and Asrock B760M PG Riptide! OCed to 5GHz all core, on a cheap Thermalright 120mm cooler, system is super snappy and nice! 790 singel/ 6100 multi core score running CPU-Z. Fun doing some BLCK OC too!

I know...it is like back in the day when we could go up 500mhz+ and enjoy massive gains. How is the power consumption in gaming after oc?

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Motherboard	more nurturing than yours
Cooling	frostier than yours
Memory	superior scheduling & haphazardly entry than yours
Video Card(s)	better rasterization than yours
Storage	more ample than yours
Display(s)	increased pixels than yours
Case	fancier than yours
Audio Device(s)	further audible than yours
Power Supply	additional amps x volts than yours
Mouse	without as much gnawing as yours
Keyboard	less clicky than yours
VR HMD	not as odd looking as yours
Software	extra mushier than yours
Benchmark Scores	up yours

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Processor	i5-12400F / 10600KF / C2D E6750
Motherboard	Gigabyte B760M DS3H / Z490 Vision D / P5GC-MX/1333
Cooling	Laminar RM1 / Gammaxx 400 / 775 Box cooler
Memory	32 GB DDR4-3200 / 16 GB DDR4-3333 / 3 GB DDR2-700
Video Card(s)	RX 6700 XT / R9 380 2 GB / 9600 GT
Storage	A couple SSDs, m.2 NVMe included / 240 GB CX1 / 500 GB HDD
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Case	Matrexx 55 / Junkyard special / non-existent
Audio Device(s)	Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites.
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1000 W / Corsair CX650M / non-existent
Mouse	Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress...
Keyboard	Makes some noise. Probably onto something.
VR HMD	I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one.
Software	Windows 11 / 10 / 8

Processor	faster at instructions than yours
Motherboard	more nurturing than yours
Cooling	frostier than yours
Memory	superior scheduling & haphazardly entry than yours
Video Card(s)	better rasterization than yours
Storage	more ample than yours
Display(s)	increased pixels than yours
Case	fancier than yours
Audio Device(s)	further audible than yours
Power Supply	additional amps x volts than yours
Mouse	without as much gnawing as yours
Keyboard	less clicky than yours
VR HMD	not as odd looking as yours
Software	extra mushier than yours
Benchmark Scores	up yours

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Processor	Intel i9 13900k with Optimus Foundation Block
Motherboard	EVGA z690 Classified
Cooling	MO-RA3 420mm Custom Loop
Memory	G.Skill 6000CL30, 64GB
Video Card(s)	Nvidia 4090 FE with Heatkiller Block
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Case	Be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G Pro X
Power Supply	Be quiet! Straight Power 12 1200W
Mouse	Logitech G502 X
Keyboard	GMMK Pro + Numpad

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Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
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Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Cooling	Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000MHz 32GB RGB
Video Card(s)	EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3
Storage	Kingston A2000 M.2 NVMe SSD
Display(s)	AOC - 27" 165hz
Case	Dunno what brand
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200
Software	Windows 11 Pro

New build dilema...

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