New built pc cpu overheating

[Francisco Medina]

I just build a new pc and after gaming a lot I get messages related to the cpu overheating. Also once my pc started rebooting in a loop after the cpu being overheated. While playing my cpu is between 75-90 degrees Celsius. Is this normal for this build? I’m wondering if there is something wrong going on or I just need better cooling. The only cooling the cpu has is the stock amd cpu fan, besides that the case came with two fans, one for intake and one for outtake.

Specs:

Mobo: MSI b550m mortar wifi
CPU: ryzen 5600x
GPU: rx 580 8gb Gigabyte gaming (this is the only used component)
Ram: Ballistix 16gb 3200
PSU: evga 600w 80+ gold

 

[jboydgolfer]

what are you using to cool your CPU?

& no, 90C is not a good temp for a CPU, it should be much lower

 

[Caring1]

Stock cooler is crap for gaming, get a better one.
A Hyper 212X is much better and still fairly inexpensive.

 

[evernessince]

You have in your specs the RX 580 marked as the only new component but you state this is a new PC. Both can't be true, is the whole PC new or just the graphics card?

The CPU temps are definitely high but it should not be rebooting from heat. The processor should be downclocking to prevent that. What frequencies is the CPU hitting during gaming? If it's already at base clocks and still overheating that indicates an improper CPU cooler install.

 

[Zach_01]

Max operating temp of 5000 series is 90C and at this point the CPU is throttling its frequency/voltage to keep temp from further increase. It should not reboot. Yes the stock cooler is a weak one but it shouldn’t reach 90C on gaming. 2 case fans are inadequate IMO for a modern system like this. And you didn’t tell anything about you ambient/room temp.

Check the cooler installation
Add more case fans

I would expect 5600X with Wraith Stealth cooler to reach 85C under full load and not during gaming.

 

[GerKNG]

I just build a new pc and after gaming a lot I get messages related to the cpu overheating. Also once my pc started rebooting in a loop after the cpu being overheated. While playing my cpu is between 75-90 degrees Celsius. Is this normal for this build? I’m wondering if there is something wrong going on or I just need better cooling. The only cooling the cpu has is the stock amd cpu fan, besides that the case came with two fans, one for intake and one for outtake.

Specs:

Mobo: MSI b550m mortar wifi
CPU: ryzen 5600x
GPU: rx 580 8gb Gigabyte gaming (this is the only new component)
Ram: Ballistix 16gb 3200
PSU: evga 600w 80+ gold

90°C with the stock cooler is pretty much what i expect...

check out the NH U12s, Scythe Fuma 2 or when on sale even a be quiet! Pure Rock 2 does the job.

 

[John Naylor]

The $55 Scythe Fuma 2 will outperform the flagship air coolers from Cryorig and Noctua as well as most 2 x 120 AIOs on the market.

There's a few here that can beat the Scythe temperature wise by 1 or 2 C that cost 3 times as much, but the noise penalty for getting that 2C is wow.

Corsair 100i pro for example is 1C cooler, but 2.5 times (13 dbA) louder.

https://tpucdn.com/review/scythe-fuma-2-dual-tower-cpu-cooler/images/temp_oc_aida64.png

https://tpucdn.com/review/scythe-fuma-2-dual-tower-cpu-cooler/images/fan_noise_100.png

 

[Francisco Medina]

You have in your specs the RX 580 marked as the only new component but you state this is a new PC. Both can't be true, is the whole PC new or just the graphics card?

The CPU temps are definitely high but it should not be rebooting from heat. The processor should be downclocking to prevent that. What frequencies is the CPU hitting during gaming? If it's already at base clocks and still overheating that indicates an improper CPU cooler install.

Yes, I meant used, I edited the post.

 

[Zach_01]

90°C with the stock cooler is pretty much what i expect...

During gaming? I think not...

 

[joemama]

Have you re-seated the cooler?

 

[Francisco Medina]

Have you re-seated the cooler?

Yes I have, there was a message saying that I needed to check if the cpu cooler was placed and secured correctly, so I did that. It was placed correctly and it didn't change any of the temperature.

Max operating temp of 5000 series is 90C and at this point the CPU is throttling its frequency/voltage to keep temp from further increase. It should not reboot. Yes the stock cooler is a weak one but it shouldn’t reach 90C on gaming. 2 case fans are inadequate IMO for a modern system like this. And you didn’t tell anything about you ambient/room temp.

Check the cooler installation
Add more case fans

I would expect 5600X with Wraith Stealth cooler to reach 85C under full load and not during gaming.

I live in a warm city and sometimes my room can get hot even with the fans on but nothing too hot

 

[ColinB123]

90°C with the stock cooler is pretty much what i expect...

check out the NH U12s, Scythe Fuma 2 or when on sale even a be quiet! Pure Rock 2 does the job.

I fitted a Fuma2 on my R5 3600 PC yesterday, and the cpu really struggles to get to 61C. It's completely quiet.

This looks like either poor case airflow (ie no real way for air to enter and/or exit), or a mis-seated cpu. I agree the cpu is better off with half-decent cooler, but I wouldn't have thought the stock cooler would be that bad on a 65w part.

 

[nguyen]

Lesson here is don't use stock cooler on a 300usd CPU, at least get a 30usd aftermarket like this ID-cooling SE 224XT

 

[Zach_01]

I live in a warm city and sometimes my room can get hot even with the fans on but nothing too hot

Ok, but how much warm? 25C? 30C? Considering this then you should’ve more case fans.

I fitted a Fuma2 on my R5 3600 PC yesterday, and the cpu really struggles to get to 61C. It's completely quiet.

This looks like either poor case airflow (ie no real way for air to enter and/or exit), or a mis-seated cpu. I agree the cpu is better off with half-decent cooler, but I wouldn't have thought the stock cooler would be that bad on a 65w part.

It’s not really a 65W part. 5600X is a 76W(PPT) CPU with a requirement of a 65W cooler at minimum. The stock cooler (let’s say) it has that capacity but under certain conditions. Meaning that if ambient(room) temp is too high, and the case ambient temp is high, the cooler’s capacity is dropping.

 

[evernessince]

Yes I have, there was a message saying that I needed to check if the cpu cooler was placed and secured correctly, so I did that. It was placed correctly and it didn't change any of the temperature.


I live in a warm city and sometimes my room can get hot even with the fans on but nothing too hot

Alright so two things you should try at this point:

1) See what frequency the processor is hitting while playing.
2) See if leaving the case door off has any impact on temperatures / shutting down

Don't try both at once. Once at a time.

Lesson here is don't use stock cooler on a 300usd CPU, at least get a 30usd aftermarket like this ID-cooling SE 224XT

This is jumping to a conclusion without first isolating other potential variables. Reviews have this CPU at a max of 83c with the stock cooler when all cores are fully loaded:

Temperatures when gaming would be below that figure. Even if you factor an above normal ambient, it should still be well within the safe zone.

In addition, there's still the question of why the system is shutting down. Typical AMD / Intel behavior would be to reduce clocks to keep temperatures in check. Even with a bad cooler, the system should still not be wholesale shutting down unless there is another factor in play. Hell I've tested 9900Ks with the stock Intel cooler and yeah, they reached 99c but they didn't shut down. They simply downclocked. Ditto goes for any Ryzen processor I've tested.

 

[GerKNG]

During gaming? I think not...

i have a 5600x too and i have a H710 with Corsair ML Pro Fans and in Warzone i get basically the same temperatures and load as in Cinebench R20.

i see peaks in the high 80s (and maybe his case has not that amount of fans/airflow or his ambient is a bit higher)

 

[Zach_01]

Also there is no point of getting a better CPU cooler, if the case can’t take the heat out. Only 1 fan intake and 1 fan as exhaust can’t do the job, especially with an increased ambient temp.

And gaming temp should be around 10C lower than R20 multi core. No game is loading 6c/12t CPU 100%.

 

[evernessince]

i have a 5600x too and i have a H710 with Corsair ML Pro Fans and in Warzone i get basically the same temperatures and load as in Cinebench R20.

i see peaks in the high 80s (and maybe his case has not that amount of fans/airflow or his ambient is a bit higher)

You should probably follow that up with the fact that you apparently have issues with every AMD product (which for some reason you keep purchasing) and no issues with Nvidia / Intel

It doesn't make sense statistically or logically.

1) Why continue to buy products you don't like?
2) Either you are the most unlucky person on earth or are simply fabricating information in your posts. The fact that your conclusion is as hyperbolic as a 100% issue rate with AMD and a 0% with Nvidia or Intel smells beyond funny.

 

[nguyen]

Also there is no point of getting a better CPU cooler, if the case can’t take the heat out. Only 1 fan intake and 1 fan as exhaust can’t do the job, especially with an increased ambient temp.

And gaming temp should be around 10C lower than R20 multi core. No game is loading 6c/12t CPU 100%.

It's the exact opposite, you need a better CPU cooler with bad case air flow and high ambient. With a tower CPU cooler, the airflow is directed from front to back of the case effortlessly.

I have a R5 3600 and it reaches 75C when undervolted with a Kraken X63 AIO during games (ambient temp >30C), these 7nm chips run quite hot.

 

[evernessince]

It's the exact opposite, you need a better CPU cooler with bad case air flow and high ambient. With a tower CPU heatsink, the airflow is directed from front to back of the case effortlessly.

I have a R5 3600 and it reach low 70C even with a Kraken X63 AIO during games (ambient temp >30C), these 7nm chips run quite hot.

That's not too far off from benchmark numbers:

I believe AMD released a BIOS a month after the 3000 series launched that makes the boost algorithm more aggressive. The 3600 will often boost past the specs rated on the box assuming you have thermal headroom, which to AMD is anything below 86c. It's less they run hot and more that they'll try and accommodate whatever cooling you have within reason.

 

[nguyen]

That's not too far off from benchmark numbers:

I believe AMD released a BIOS a month after the 3000 series launched that makes the boost algorithm more aggressive. The 3600 will often boost past the specs rated on the box assuming you have thermal headroom, which to AMD is anything below 86c. It's less they run hot and more that they'll try and accommodate whatever cooling you have within reason.

Point here is that with bad case airflow, the stock cooler will only make the situation worse because the hot air will remain trapped inside the case.
With a Tower CPU cooler, the air can easily move from front intake to the back exhaust, that's why tower heatsink is so popular.

Investing in a cheap tower CPU cooler is often more effective than putting in more case fans and keeping the fans noise at minumum, I just did a build for a friend in the CM NR200 case and the ID-Cooling SE224 is quite adequate, and no case fan needed (stock CM fan is absolute trash). Cost of the ID-Cooling SE224? 20usd in my area.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Speaking of airflow, what case is being used?

Investing in a cheap tower CPU is often more effective than putting in more case fans and keeping the fans noise at minumum, I just did a build for a friend in the CM NR200 case and the ID-Cooling SE224 is quite adequate, and no case fan needed (stock CM fan is absolute trash). Cost of the ID-Cooling SE224? 20usd in my area.

in a situation like that you only need 1 case fan

 

[pantherx12]

Also there is no point of getting a better CPU cooler, if the case can’t take the heat out. Only 1 fan intake and 1 fan as exhaust can’t do the job, especially with an increased ambient temp.

And gaming temp should be around 10C lower than R20 multi core. No game is loading 6c/12t CPU 100%.

Not true as a blanket rule, 1 in 2 out can be plenty.

Even with rubbish fans that's 30 cubic feet of air per minute in and out of the case.

My kids computers don't even have intake fans and never get out of control hot. Just the negative air pressure from the PSU fan and 92mm exhaust fans is enough to draw in enough air to keep the system well within thermal limits.

Both quad core systems , one with a gtx 970 and the other with an Rx 480.

 

[evernessince]

Point here is that with bad case airflow, the stock cooler will only make the situation worse because the hot air will remain trapped inside the case.
With a Tower CPU cooler, the air can easily move from front intake to the back exhaust, that's why tower heatsink is so popular.

Investing in a cheap tower CPU cooler is often more effective than putting in more case fans and keeping the fans noise at minumum, I just did a build for a friend in the CM NR200 case and the ID-Cooling SE224 is quite adequate, and no case fan needed (stock CM fan is absolute trash). Cost of the ID-Cooling SE224? 20usd in my area.

Got ya, agreed.

Hopefully the OP doesn't have one of those hotbox cases where the intake fans are against glass or plastic.

 

[Zach_01]

Most likely the issue is 3fold

1. Stock cooler
2. Low case airflow
3. High ambient temp