New workstation build advice

[JustinRSharp]

I’m looking to build another computer for work. I use many applications at once but my primary goal is to improve performance in Tekla (made by Trimble for 3D modeling). Tekla suggests an i7 3+ghz , 32 GB ram, and a 2080 or better. My current setup is:
i9-9900k @ 5.1 ghz
z390 msi mb
64gb 4000mhz trident royal
msi 2070 armor overclocked
samsung 980 pro 1tb nvme
seagate 3tb had
thermaltake 360 aio Floe

my goal is to take that pc home and build another machine to keep at my shop. I was thinking about waiting for the new z590 and intel cpus to come out but I’m interested to know if anyone has any suggestions to speed up my work and build a better system any help is appreciated. I’m looking for advice on all components.

budget Is probably in the 4-5k range though I can swing more. TIA

attaching pics of my current setup

Here is what I was thinking (though part picker doesn’t have the new parts just yet)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdkbZZ

 

[Why_Me]

https://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Intel-Rocket-Lake-Z590-H570-B560-series/ <--- Asus Z590 boards

Intel Rocket Lake-S price leak indicates Core i9-11900K to be 10% cheaper than Core i9-10900K and close to Ryzen 7 5800X, but lack of MSRP info makes pricing comparisons difficult

Pricing information for Intel's upcoming 11th gen Rocket Lake-S chips has leaked on Belgian retailer 2compuite's site. According to prices listed by 2compute, the Core i9-11900K looks to be about 10% cheaper than the Core i9-10900K. However, other retailers seem to show a 10% increase in pricing...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[quanash]

All 3D CAD softwares are similar in system needs. In 3D CAD, there are two different workflow. 3D modeling and 3D rendering which needs different system needs.

If you need fast, responsive and non-glitched 3D modeling system you need highest frequency possible with fast IPC. Not all cores need to be fast, 2 - 4 cores will be sufficient, since 3D modeling uses only 1 or 2 cores. so instead of overclocking all cores, try to reach highest frequency possible for 2 cores.

GPU is also not needed that much since 80% of the modeling workload is CPU related and only %20 percent depends on GPU. For ex. RTX4000 is more than enough for SOLIDWORKS, so for new gen GPU RTX 3070 and up will be more than enough.

If you need a workstation for both 3D modeling and rendering, you need high frequency possible with fast IPC for modeling and high CPU Core count for 3D rendering. For professional use, I offer to use 2 separate systems ( one for modeling, one for rendering - for both best performance, flexibility, creativity, and efficiency.)


I don't suggest XMP profile used memory in workstations, performance gain - stability issue ratio is not worth to thake the risk. Instead of XMP, use a memory that has 3200MHz profile in their SDP ( JEDEC ) for better stability. for 3D modeling, 32 GB is enough at most 64 GB will be needed ( if you are designing a complete factory with SOLIDWORKS Smap3D Plant Design) .

Try to look for a more reliable and better performance AIO from other brands.

 

[JustinRSharp]

All 3D CAD softwares are similar in system needs. In 3D CAD, there are two different workflow. 3D modeling and 3D rendering which needs different system needs.

If you need fast, responsive and non-glitched 3D modeling system you need highest frequency possible with fast IPC. Not all cores need to be fast, 2 - 4 cores will be sufficient, since 3D modeling uses only 1 or 2 cores. so instead of overclocking all cores, try to reach highest frequency possible for 2 cores.

GPU is also not needed that much since 80% of the modeling workload is CPU related and only %20 percent depends on GPU. For ex. RTX4000 is more than enough for SOLIDWORKS, so for new gen GPU RTX 3070 and up will be more than enough.

If you need a workstation for both 3D modeling and rendering, you need high frequency possible with fast IPC for modeling and high CPU Core count for 3D rendering. For professional use, I offer to use 2 separate systems ( one for modeling, one for rendering - for both best performance, flexibility, creativity, and efficiency.)


I don't suggest XMP profile used memory in workstations, performance gain - stability issue ratio is not worth to thake the risk. Instead of XMP, use a memory that has 3200MHz profile in their SDP ( JEDEC ) for better stability. for 3D modeling, 32 GB is enough at most 64 GB will be needed ( if you are designing a complete factory with SOLIDWORKS Smap3D Plant Design) .

Try to look for a more reliable and better performance AIO from other brands.

My be a silly question but if i OC specific cores for higher speed, how do i guarantee that the application i want to access that core will?

 

[quanash]

My be a silly question but if i OC specific cores for higher speed, how do i guarantee that the application i want to access that core will?

When you overclock your CPU on new motherboards, you don't specific the core, you just verify how much cores will be at which ratio and rest will be done by motherboard.

For example, you choose 2 cores for 54X, 4 cores for 52X, 4 cores for 51X, and 10 cores for 50X.

This means when 2 cores are in load it will goes to 5.4 GHz, up tp 6 cores are in load it goes to 5.2 GHz and in all cores are in load it goes to 5.0GHz. ( INTEL i9 10900k CPU as CPU reference, can't guarantee the core ratios will work with all CPU, motherboard, cooler configuration since there are other variables are concerned ).