NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, NVIDIA Confirms the Issue, Multiple Vendors Affected, RTX 5070 Ti, Too

[Auxityne]

nobody figured out this only affects the "D" Versions of RTX5090 sold for China only??

Literally an image of a Gigabyte 5090 in the news post displaying 168 ROPs, come on man. Even TPU's own RTX 5090 review sample from Zotac has 168 ROPs, and it's not a D model either.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Less ROPs, less heat, less melting connectors, just more black eyes for NVidia. Gotcha.

 

[Ruru]

The more you buy, the less you get.

Not a good look for Nvidia, especially on their expensive flagship product. I wonder how this made it past QC?

"nah, those idiots buy them anyway so let's just release them to the market"

 

[ShrimpBrime]

The more you buy, the less you get.


"nah, those idiots buy them anyway so let's just release them to the market"

Exactly. Sucker born every day. 8 billion people, there's bound to be a couple million sucker's out there.

@SmookinJoe
Thanks for making that closed thread. Slapped it here in your honor sir!

JayzTwoCents just posted a video based on this report as seen below:

Oops, was already posteded. Muh bad dudes.

 

[shadyhero]

this is what happens when you cant bin defective chips into lower skus. there is no other gpu with the gb202 die

 

[Klemc]

That's what happens when a customer comes to a store and says :

I don't need ROPs !

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

$2000+ for this card and this is what you get... I mean what are we up to, 3 different issues now that are pretty major (Least in my book).

I really do not want to hear about AMD's drivers form 10 years ago ever again when I see a topic talking about the both brands.

TIL that 2018 was 10 years ago.

The amount of copium from Nvidia fanbois is off the charts. The excuse is: " Well, it's still the fastest one can buy, so you shouldn't complain "

90% of the thread is people bashing on nVidia. I know it doesnt back up the prescribed worldview, but cmon man, this is an easy dunk.....

I add the RTX5080 to cart, then I remember all these points, and I remove it from cart. But you forgot to add another item, 32-bit PhysX is unsupported on many older titles that people like me still enjoy, tanking FPS from 400+ to just 7, I guess we can just use MFG to make that 28!

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I am eagerly waiting on AMDs product launch, if it's anywhere near the $500-550, it's instant buy for me.

AMD never misses a chance to shoot themselves int he foot, so I'mma go with $850 for the 9070xt.

 

[Sir Beregond]

nobody figured out this only affects the "D" Versions of RTX5090 sold for China only??

5090 and 5090D have same number of ROPs.

 

[GhostRyder]

TIL that 2018 was 10 years ago.

I mean that was 7, but that year I only remember there being a version or two with issues on the Vega series. I was talking like off and on consistent problems like back around the HD 7XXX series (not specifically that series, just around that era).

Either way this ROP issue is beyond a normal driver issue (least in my book).

 

[Dawora]

Less is more hehehe

Less is more hehehe

Less is more hehehe

When 60x0 series comes out, Nvidia will give gamers the option to run benchmarks on their claoud (first 30 days free, then 19.99$ month) - that way, nobody will feel left behind

Sir, we all use soon Nvidia GPUs because thats only one left, AMD never miss opportunity to miss opportunity

I am eagerly waiting on AMDs product launch, if it's anywhere near the $500-550, it's instant buy for me.

Better to do longer shifts, because it will be more than 500-550
Some Aibs is +900$ 100% fact

 

[ks2]

Sir, we all use soon Nvidia GPUs because thats only one left, AMD never miss opportunity to miss opportunity


Better to do longer shifts, because it will be more than 500-550
Some Aibs is +900$ 100% fact

Thank you for sharing this information, kind time traveler.

 

[troyota]

I have a zotac 5090 solid and thankfully mine had the full 176 ROPs

 

[FreedomEclipse]

"The more you buy. The less ROPs you save!" - Jensen 'based' Huang.

 

[blueturtle]

Just waiting for Nvidia to screw the wrong person. Ill be watching with a big bowl of popcorn. All this upcoming backlash with AI heading for Mr. Leather Jacket....

 

[Eiji]

It gets worse...

 

[Bwaze]

It gets worse...

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So an issue they haven’t noticed before and which requires some knowledge from the user to even identify it (and has to actively look for it) already got an assessment on how many products it affects, and it’s of course extremely low number?

The fact that right now there is a very small number of these cards around, but affected cards were found from several AIBs and models shows you that 0.5% number is pulled from the arse.

 

[JustBenching]

So they quickly rushed to address the issue and offer RMAs. Great, nice one nvidia. Consumer friendly, as expected.

 

[Bwaze]

So they quickly rushed to address the issue and offer RMAs. Great, nice one nvidia. Consumer friendly, as expected.

Well, it’s a bit harder to deny than Intel’s 13 and 14 gen CPU instability and degradation problem they have been denying for months, denying RMAs even to tech journalists. When they admitted the problem, they also quoted it is very rare - but we have basically no way of quantifying that.

Remember when 5 years ago AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs didn’t reach their advertised boost clocks, AMD dismissed it, and Der8auer organized a group poll of users that showed the problem is widespread, and AMD then promised to fix it in microcode?

I mean, ROP number is clearly written, together with performance drop. The only other thing Nvidia could have done is change the way driver reports ROPs, always showing the SKU’s appropriate number, not an actual live count. And the 4% performance degradation? Clearly user error, debloat your Windows, here’s an easy to follow 69 step program that could potentially brick your PC!

 

[JustBenching]

Well, it’s a bit harder to deny than Intel’s 13 and 14 gen CPU instability and degradation problem they have been denying for months, denying RMAs even to tech journalists.

They haven't been denying RMAs. That's the usual anti intel / nvidia propagand you hear on the internet. There were 3 cases that got denied out of thousands of RMAs that are happening on the daily.

I mean, ROP number is clearly written, together with performance drop. The only other thing Nvidia could have done is change the way driver reports ROPs, always showing the SKU’s appropriate number, not an actual live count. And the 4% performance degradation? Clearly user error, debloat your Windows, here’s an easy to follow 69 step program that could potentially brick your PC!

Nvidia didn't call it a user error, clearly they are offering RMAs. What are you talking about man?

 

[tpa-pr]

So they quickly rushed to address the issue and offer RMAs. Great, nice one nvidia. Consumer friendly, as expected.

I have to ask: would you be this magnanimous if this was AMD or Intel?

 

[JustBenching]

I have to ask: would you be this magnanimous if this was AMD or Intel?

Of course, wasn't the internet as forgiving with the 3d burning up 2 years ago (and taking your mobo alongside it) or the problematic cooler on the 7900xtx?

Not having cards to quickly RMA might be an issue but at least in this particular case you can wait a month, the card is fully functioning with 5% less performance.

 

[tpa-pr]

Of course, wasn't the internet as forgiving with the 3d burning up 2 years ago (and taking your mobo alongside it) or the problematic cooler on the 7900xtx?

Not having cards to quickly RMA might be an issue but at least in this particular case you can wait a month, the card is fully functioning with 5% less performance.

I wasn't asking about the internet's reaction in general, I was asking you personally. But alright, if you say "of course" I'll accept that and hold you to the standard in the future.

 

[JustBenching]

I wasn't asking about the internet's reaction in general, I was asking you personally. But alright, if you say "of course" I'll accept that and hold you to the standard in the future.

Crap like this has happened, is happening and it's going to keep happening. As long as the whatever company is involved is willing to RMA and make good, that's all there is to say about it. My standards are always the same, it's everyone else's standards that flip flop based on the brand.

For example, have fun reading the below. Lot's of people rushing to blame nvidia for doing it on purpose rushed to say the XTX cooler issue was a youtube propaganda....

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX May Feature Faulty Coolers, Causing Overheating

AMD's latest GPUs have been reported to be experiencing overheating issues, with many users claiming that the vapor chamber cooler works better in a vertical rather than a horizontal position. Regardless of orientation, vapor chamber coolers should equal roughly the same heat dissipation...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[usiname]

0.5% defect rate? Isn't the defect connectors percentage also around 0.5-1%?

 

[Bwaze]

Nvidia didn't call it a user error, clearly they are offering RMAs. What are you talking about man?

I’m talking about how some users applaud the exemplary Nvidia’s response, which is a correct one - but in their position perhaps the only one possible. And I have written a possible other way out without admitting their fault - as we have seen other companies try before.

A cynical take on how tech companies deal with such issues.

Wanna hear another such story? Largest SSD maker, Samsung, had a drive that was failing unless you updated it’s firmware. No ”if’s” or “why’s”, just “when”. But rather than making a pubic statement that users should do that, they issued their solution quietly in tech help, which nobody sought until it was too late - how many users lost their valuable personal data so that Samsung maintained their perfect public image?