Operation Coffee Lake is Underway

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Hey guys I finally got my new system up and running for the most part. I just need to finish doing some Windows 10 updates is all. Figured Id start off the thread with a little CPUz goodness.

I not going to run very many tests/benchmarks between my Skylake system and my new Coffee Lake system as 1) I didnt have that much time and 2) I just kinda dont want to I was going to run BF1 the other day but they were having server issues. But for what I could test in a quick MP match, despite vsync being off, I was getting a constant 60 FPS and im not really sure if it was a setting or given the age of my GPU compared to everything else, thats just what it happened to top at with everything set on ultra with an ultra wide monitor.

Ill post back when I have more.

Edit: Guess I cant make a reserved section with the new site update :-\

 

[Solaris17]

Sweet deal man that's a nice rig congrats!

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Thanks man! Preciate it!

Now I just need the Corsair Vengance RGB kit to come in, upgrade from an H80i v2 to a Corsair dual rad, GTX 1080 TI, and get a 1TB 960 EVO m.2 and this rig is DONE!

Looks like a new stable OC.

https://valid.x86.fr/ilk709

 

[Vayra86]

Thanks man! Preciate it!

Now I just need the Corsair Vengance RGB kit to come in, upgrade from an H80i v2 to a Corsair dual rad, GTX 1080 TI, and get a 1TB 960 EVO m.2 and this rig is DONE!

Looks like a new stable OC.

https://valid.x86.fr/ilk709

Why is your Uncore so high? I think you can tweak that down and extract 100mhz to hit the magical barrier That's a lot of voltage for 4.9 methinks. Also, you know of the existence of AVX offset, this can also add stability at lower volts.

I'm still waiting on availability of some parts, and then I'm off ordering one too Can't wait.

Also, we want pics!

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

This is basically all on auto. All I did was set the core to 49 across all cores. Didn't touch any voltages. I don't even know what uncore is

 

[Vayra86]

This is basically all on auto. All I did was set the core to 49 across all cores. Didn't touch any voltages. I don't even know what uncore is

Well, that means you have a 5.0-5.2 Ghz CPU on your hands, time to get the OC manual

 

[newconroer]

Hey guys I finally got my new system up and running for the most part. I just need to finish doing some Windows 10 updates is all. Figured Id start off the thread with a little CPUz goodness.

I not going to run very many tests/benchmarks between my Skylake system and my new Coffee Lake system as 1) I didnt have that much time and 2) I just kinda dont want to I was going to run BF1 the other day but they were having server issues. But for what I could test in a quick MP match, despite vsync being off, I was getting a constant 60 FPS and im not really sure if it was a setting or given the age of my GPU compared to everything else, thats just what it happened to top at with everything set on ultra with an ultra wide monitor.

Ill post back when I have more.

Edit: Guess I cant make a reserved section with the new site update :-\

Awesome, well here's hoping the purchase of a new platform is worth it. I am still hanging onto my Sandybridge because let's face it, nearly seven years on and it's still the best CPU out there

 

[EarthDog]

because let's face it, nearly seven years on and it's still the best CPU out there

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I'll have my old Sandy Bridge system up for sale hopefully by next week sometime. Gf currently has it but she's getting my 6600k system. Just waiting for my 16gb of Corsair vengeance rgb kit to get here tomorrow and I'll swap her system out/in.

She'll just need a better could cooler and a new video card (Currently she's rocking a 560 TI I think it is)

 

[FireFox]

Looks like a new stable

Show us a pic of a few hours running Prime95 to see if it's stable.

My 8700K at 5.2GHz it doesn't crash when gaming, watching videos or whatever i do but run prime95 and TADA CRASH, one thing is to say that it's stable but the true we know it after we see that it passed every test you did.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I use aida64 for stability testing. Prime95 on my 6600k skyrocketed my temps for some reason

 

[FireFox]

I use aida64 for stability testing. Prime95 on my 6600k skyrocketed my temps for some reason

I would like to see prime95 on that 8600K otherwise forget the word STABLE, i bet it won't take more than 10 minutes before it crash.

 

[Vya Domus]

I use aida64 for stability testing. Prime95 on my 6600k skyrocketed my temps for some reason

If you rely on Prime95 to determine whether or not the system is stable you will have a bad time.

I have OC'd numerous systems that have been stable and worked hassle free for years but that would otherwise fail Prime95 within seconds. AIDA64 FPU is significantly closer to actual real world use and much better if you want to determine if things are stable in a meaningful manner.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

If you rely on Prime95 to determine whether or not the system is stable you will have a bad time.

I have OC'd numerous systems that have been stable and worked hassle free for years but that would otherwise fail Prime95 within seconds. AIDA64 FPU is significantly closer to actual real world use and much better if you want to determine if things are stable in a meaningful manner.

Im not relying on prime95. I rely on Aida64 and actual game testing. Knoxx29 is the one that is pushing Prime95.

Prime95 is the old standard for testing

 

[FireFox]

Knoxx29 is the one that is pushing Prime95.

Yeap, i am pushing Prime95, the magic Software that will let us know if your system it is stable or not

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Sorry but I use Aida64. If I can run it just fine and as @Vya Domus mentioned, its closer to real world performance and if I am not crashing in it or in games then it works for me.

 

[FireFox]

Sorry but I use Aida64. If I can run it just fine and as @Vya Domus mentioned, its closer to real world performance and if I am not crashing in it or in games then it works for me.

OK, that means that my 8700K it is stable at 5.2GHz even if it crash when running Prime95 good to know.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Then yes it does

 

[Kursah]

OK, that means that my 8700K it is stable at 5.2GHz even if it crash when running Prime95 good to know.

If it doesn't crash under any other circumstance but that one test, that could be left to interpretation for what someone deems as stable or not. This could and in many threads on TPU has been talked about, debated and argued in circles. What works for you and is your preference might not work for someone else, same with what they prefer or I prefer.

I prefer OCCT myself, to each their own on that front. It generally brings out the crashes and issues that I don't see in other stress tests and includes GPU testing and combines CPU and GPU testing for entire system power load and cooling testing, and has monitoring and reporting, all for free as-long-as you're not on a local domain. Prime is always a fallback though I rarely use it anymore. AIDA is included in the rarely used, but is a fallback category.

Ultimately the best test after all that testing is to just use the damn system for what you built it for!

 

[notb]

Sorry but I use Aida64. If I can run it just fine and as @Vya Domus mentioned, its closer to real world performance and if I am not crashing in it or in games then it works for me.

But testing stability is not about real life load, isn't it? It's about working under extreme, yet probable conditions. Real life load is... real life. You do it all the time. Why waste time testing? Just use your PC and if it crashes, lower the clocks.

I use aida64 for stability testing. Prime95 on my 6600k skyrocketed my temps for some reason

The reason is: Prime95 pushes your CPU to 100%, i.e. it uses all the performance that you've paid for.

If you rely on Prime95 to determine whether or not the system is stable you will have a bad time.

But a much safer PC.
If it's good time one's looking for, there are better ways to spend money than buying CPUs...

I have OC'd numerous systems that have been stable and worked hassle free for years but that would otherwise fail Prime95 within seconds. AIDA64 FPU is significantly closer to actual real world use and much better if you want to determine if things are stable in a meaningful manner.

I've OC'd numerous systems as well and they usually crashed under fairly basic simulations, even though they were passing "real life" stability tests. I was writing in C++ then, so it wasn't some hardcore low-level coding designed to kill CPUs.

The once was a fantastic car manufacturer called Saab and they were pretty good in stress testing. And I don't think they would praise your methodology.
It was said that most cars are safe when you hit a person, because they are tested by hitting "a person". However, Saabs were safe when you hit a moose, because they were tested by hitting "a moose". So it's all about the threshold you set.

If it doesn't crash under any other circumstance but that one test, that could be left to interpretation for what someone deems as stable or not.

Now that's brave... I'll just point out the "any other circumstance" and strongly suggest to give it a thought...

 

[Solaris17]

Aida64 and OCCT here as well. Prime95 is old hat. They only recently within the last few releases started supporting AVX. CPUs in general are becoming more sophisticated and have hardware sub processing units embedded now that specifically handle certain instructions. It is important to keep an open mind and be on constant lookout for stress and testing software that not only utilizes these new features but also be vigilant of stress testing software that ONLY utilizes these features.

Less and Less are becoming "CPU core only" and being offloaded to special internalized circuitry. Does that mean Prime95 is as of THIS MOMENT outdated? No probably not. Not with the support for AVX but they do run behind constantly. I would rather not fall into that window.

EDIT:: Expanding on this. While I generally advocate for OCCT and Aida because of there track record for releases (especially AIDA) that isn't to say you should always stick to one. These programs in the future can also fall behind and the real ticket to a stable system is to practice educated vigilance in regards to the stress testing tools you use. Making sure they can properly utilize the new hardware you are testing them on.

 

[notb]

Prime95 is old hat.

That doesn't matter, being brutally honest.
Only one question matters: does your CPU, which fails Prime95 with OC, pass it once back to factory settings?

 

[Solaris17]

That doesn't matter, to be brutally honest.
Only one question matters: does your CPU, which fails Prime95 with OC, pass it once back to factory settings?

Its not brutal. Just misguided. You have to have a more fundamental understanding of microprocessor architecture before you can soundly claim that some program can 100% identify if your CPU is stable. P95 may or may not fulfill that need currently but it didn't when AVX capable CPUs were released. Which generate alot more heat for CPUs then prime number generation. taking the crown from AES now that its offloaded into its own encryption portion of the CPU (IE not handled by general thread process). Of course I'm not here to argue stress testing theory. Only to defend a far more decorated and trusted member in the matter of overclocking stability.

I don't have the pleasure of time to spend arguing stress testing protocol to members that stick to a specific piece of software because "its always worked before" Tried and true methods of stress testing die just like methods of overclocking via FSB.

 

[Tomgang]

Grats with your .

That shut give you some fun the comming years. Speaking of year, happy new year. Its less than 23 hours to the last day of 2017 ends where i live.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

The reason is: Prime95 pushes your CPU to 100%, i.e. it uses all the performance that you've paid for.

So does AIDA64. Can do GPU too if I wanted it to. Will even tell me if the system is thermal throttling.

But a much safer PC.
If it's good time one's looking for, there are better ways to spend money than buying CPUs...

That can be interpreted a bunch of different ways, so Ill just say been there done that

The way I currently see it for system stability:
-if it passes AIDA64 stress testing
-can play games without crashing
-can run CPU test of Futuremark without crashing

Then Im golden.