[POLL] AMD CPUs stock performance

birdie · Jan 30, 2023

Some people claim to get the stock [normal] performance out of AMD CPUs you absolutely need to fine tune them including and not limited to enabling PBO, using Curve Optimizer (CO), overclocking and tuning RAM timings, using AIO, etc.

If you're not an overclocker and you simply like to run things by default (sans RAM XMP/DOCP/EXPO which is not enabled by default), what your experience with AMD CPUs has been in terms of getting the performance similar to what reviewers post?

Would be nice to get comments why you couldn't reach the stock performance out of the box and what you changed/fixed/tuned in order to achieve it.

Arco · Jan 30, 2023

Got really good performance out of the box, a bit later I did the obvious and tweaked it a bit. Mostly just XMP, turning off RGB, and then using Ryzen Master with its curves. Haven't done fan curves but I'm currently fine with them.

the54thvoid · Jan 30, 2023

Please go here:

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

I'm posting this in case anyone wants a Ryzen thread for troubleshooting and guidance. As someone with a build about to happen, I have a feeling I might need some help. New wave of CPU'S means teething probs. So, feedback on BIOS issues, memory hints and general tweaks could be useful. Trolls...

www.techpowerup.com

To discuss AMD CPU performance and issues (there's over 5000 posts, and plenty of help).

Thanks.

birdie · Jan 30, 2023

the54thvoid said:
Please go here:

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

I'm posting this in case anyone wants a Ryzen thread for troubleshooting and guidance. As someone with a build about to happen, I have a feeling I might need some help. New wave of CPU'S means teething probs. So, feedback on BIOS issues, memory hints and general tweaks could be useful. Trolls...

www.techpowerup.com

To discuss AMD CPU performance and issues.

Thanks.

I cannot post a poll in the existing thread. This thread is not for "issues", it's a poll about getting or not getting stock performance.

the54thvoid · Jan 30, 2023

birdie said:
I cannot post a poll in the existing thread. This thread is not for "issues", it's a poll about getting or not getting stock performance.

Your own words from OP:

Would be nice to get comments why you couldn't reach the stock performance out of the box and what you changed/fixed/tuned in order to achieve it.

These are things covered in the Ryzen thread. The poll serves no helpful purpose.

freeagent · Jan 30, 2023

I only spent a few minutes @ stock, but it was all there on all three of my Zen 3 parts.

birdie · Jan 30, 2023

the54thvoid said:
Your own words from OP:

These are things covered in the Ryzen thread. The poll serves no helpful purpose.

1. You can safely ignore this part if you find it so repugnant.
2. It's extremely useful for me and lots of people who perpetrate lies about [AMD] CPUs.

You're OK to delete thread, I'm OK with reporting this to wizz, 'cause this poll does not infringe on any rules of these forums. It's not a dupe. Creating similar but not exactly the same threads is neither a sin nor a crime.

Pumper · Jan 30, 2023

My stock 3900X got ~7300 in R20, I get the same with 105W PPT (PBO off) and -0.1v offset.

freeagent · Jan 30, 2023

birdie said:
1. You can safely ignore this part if you find it so repugnant.
2. It's extremely useful for me and lots of people who perpetrate lies about [AMD] CPUs.

1. Be nice. There is no need to talk to him like that.
2. Who lies about CPU performance? That is super lame.

bug · Jan 30, 2023

birdie said:
Some people claim to get the stock [normal] performance out of AMD CPUs you absolutely need to fine tune them including and not limited to enabling PBO, using Curve Optimizer (CO), overclocking and tuning RAM timings, using AIO, etc.

If you're not an overclocker and you simply like to run things by default (sans RAM XMP/DOCP/EXPO which is not enabled by default), what your experience with AMD CPUs has been in terms of getting the performance similar to what reviewers post?

Would be nice to get comments why you couldn't reach the stock performance out of the box and what you changed/fixed/tuned in order to achieve it.

So, if someone got a CPU and never ever tweaked anything, how would they know whether they are getting this "stock" (how do you define that?) performance or not?

phanbuey · Jan 30, 2023

freeagent said:
I only spent a few minutes @ stock, but it was all there on all three of my Zen 3 parts.

I am like this too - stock is only to make sure windows installed correctly.

ir_cow · Jan 30, 2023

AMD engineered the CPU so well that use it to enable XMp and have good cooling. If you want the CPU be at maximum performance, most actually comes from undervolting so it draws less power and less heat so the turbo hits the same level as before. If you have a water cooling setup that doesn't matter.

A Computer Guy · Jan 30, 2023

With early AGESA UEFI/BIOS stock performance I think I had the issues with not hitting boot clocks but that was eventually resolved.

playerlorenzo · Jan 30, 2023

I just enable XMP, Resizable Bar and 4G decoding

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[POLL] AMD CPUs stock performance

I got the stock performance out of my AMD CPU

Yes, by default with default motherboard settings

No, I needed to tweak certain BIOS settings

No, I had to improve hardware aspects (cooling, PSU, replacing the motherboard)

My own option not included above [please, leave a comment]

birdie

Arco

the54thvoid

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Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

birdie

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator

freeagent

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birdie

Pumper

freeagent

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bug

phanbuey

ir_cow

A Computer Guy

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