Project Cosmos 1000

[n0tiert]

Thx m8´s,

yeeeah the powdercoater done a great job, tonight i will show some updates from the frame, added the grill and radiator and needed to modify the to cover a bit to fit , the EK waterblocks for the CPU and GPU finally arrived, but still waiting for the mainboard waterblocks to come, they are no mass products and handcrafted so it takes a while and the dude´s at Anfi-tech do a kickass job ..... but next time i will wait till i have all parts are in hands, i bet u guys know what i´m talking about, hehe

take a look at the kickass products the guys @ anfi-tech do:

http://shop.anfi-tec.de/

 

[Scrizz]

good stuff

 

[n0tiert]

Here are some new pictures from the frame with build in radiator and fans
i couldn´t mount the radiator all the way in the back to get enough room in the 2nd 5 1/4 slot for the dvd drive to fit in , the upper hand bars have a big mounting plate and cannot be placed on other position due the the side cover holes for the bar.

more to come ..... stay tuned

 

[Scrizz]

very nice m8
can't w8 to see it done

 

[n0tiert]

I started to built my custom fan & temp controller as u can see here:

(i know i messed it up wth scratches :shadedshu ) hehe
may i can fix it with some smooth sanding......


EK´s waterblock for my CPU
no need to lapp that one

EK´s waterblock for my Sapphire 4870 x2

Lets prepare the gfx card......

 

[n0tiert]

Hey m8´s i got a question on the fan sensor wire, if i solder 3 fan´s to one 3 pin molex, would it come to any problem with the mb sensor reading the RPM? since it will have 3 different signals, all 3 fan´s are same type/build.

thx

 

[H82LUZ73]

no if they all have the same rpms.

 

[Assassin48]

no if they all have the same rpms.

what about the power? is the mobo enough on that pin?

Or is he drawing power from the fan controller he is building?

 

[n0tiert]

all 3 fan´s have same rpm and same type (scythe´s slipstreams)
i take the power from the custom fan controller , and only plug the sensor wire on the mainboard.

thx

 

[n0tiert]

i need to switch from from my selfmade fan controller to the coolermaster aerogate 3
because the 3 radiator fan´s taking to much power for the parts i wanted to use from the thermaltake,
i need about 15 watt´s for them (12V * 0.41A = 4,92W * 14,76 W)
i check´d several newer fan controller with temp display and they are almost all to weak on a single fan rail, the default on them is 6-12 watt for each rail ..... the aerogate delivers 18 Watt on each rail and it also fits in the case due the small space between the slot and front door and it´s the same brand.....

 

[phanbuey]

you could mount another 120MM by the exhaust! I like those magicool rads, theyre very nice and slim. Great build btw... very pro (the mesh looks sick).

i only say the extra rad bc that triple is gonna get overloaded...

 

[n0tiert]

you could mount another 120MM by the exhaust! I like those magicool rads, theyre very nice and slim. Great build btw... very pro (the mesh looks sick).

i only say the extra rad bc that triple is gonna get overloaded...

I thought a triple would be enough for all components ?!

pwm,cpu,nb,gpu,sb u shure ?

 

[phanbuey]

I thought a triple would be enough for all components ?!

pwm,cpu,nb,gpu,sb u shure ?

100% sure... youre not going to have more than 150CFM moving through that top rad - 1. its in a low-medium airflow configuration due to the restrictive top cover of the cosmos, 2. it is at the top (i.e. hottest) part of your system, and you're going to be moving warm air through it. 3. 150CFM assumes the restriction of that BIX-like rad and the top cover backpressure - even 70CFM fans will struggle to move a decent amount of air through that rad.

Finally, I had a very similar (heat wise) set up to yours, without the nb and sb blocks, just the e8500 and the dual gtx 260's and an open-air triple at the top of the case(no heat from the case was hitting the rad) with 58cfm fans in pull, and that sucker got overloaded fast when everything was under load.

with just the triple, your GPUs will load at ~50 - 55C, but your proc will actually run considerably hotter at load, when both gpu's are also stressed, than with the air setup.

The heat dump from a quad and dual high-end GPU's is extreme, especially when OC'd; i'm talking ~550-650W of heat... with you're current rad setup, at maximum, you would be able to dump ~350-400W of heat effectively, an extra 120MM can shave 150-200W of additional heat when coupled with a quiet fan - and you plenty of have room for it.

this is my current setup (sorry for the blur) - there is a triple mcr320 at the top, a magicool 120MM slim at the back, and a dual mcr 220 at the front. Its a little extreme, and i dont think you need 6x120MM worth of rad unless you want somthing really quiet, but you will definitely, without a doubt, need more than a triple.

 

[Scrizz]

so is a triple good enough for just the proc?

 

[phanbuey]

so is a triple good enough for just the proc?

a dual is good for the OC'd quad core alone (depending on how low your temps need to go and your airflow - a triple is prolly a little overkill, but again, not if you're using 40CFM fans). But then you're left with only a single for the 4870X2, and that is not enough for that card; the saphhire atomic WC with a single rad loads at 65C... 65C is absurdly high for watercooling a gpu. Most gpu's that are WC'd do not load above 45-50C. That just means that the water in that loop is heating up. What then happens is that water from the card will heat up and sabotage the cooling of the loop, which will be then unable to unload the heat from the proc. Ive seen it happen with my loop (and it sucks)

Its not so much just about the rad, its also alot about how much air you're moving through it, and how cold the air is. If you're moving a 300-400CFM of cold air through a triple, then it would be enough... if you have a dual rad that you stick in a bucket of ice water... then its enough. But when the air is semi-warm, and there is only a moderate amount of it, then the more rad the better.

The other advantage of having an additional single rad on the exhaust fan, is that this rad can go right after the proc, and then eliminate that heat, thus putting colder water into the gpu block.

 

[n0tiert]

a dual is good for the OC'd quad core alone (depending on how low your temps need to go and your airflow - a triple is prolly a little overkill, but again, not if you're using 40CFM fans). But then you're left with only a single for the 4870X2, and that is not enough for that card; the saphhire atomic WC with a single rad loads at 65C... 65C is absurdly high for watercooling a gpu. Most gpu's that are WC'd do not load above 45-50C. That just means that the water in that loop is heating up. What then happens is that water from the card will heat up and sabotage the cooling of the loop, which will be then unable to unload the heat from the proc.

Its not so much just about the rad, its also alot about how much air you're moving through it, and how cold the air is. If you're moving a 300-400CFM of cold air through a triple, then it would be enough... if you have a dual rad that you stick in a bucket of ice water... then its enough. But when the air is semi-warm, and there is only a moderate amount of it, then the more rad the better.

The other advantage of having an additional single rad on the exhaust fan, is that this rad can go right after the proc, and then eliminate that heat, thus putting colder water into the gpu block.

ok thx m8,

i´ll go for another MagiCool XTREME SINGLE 120 Radiator for the exhaust then , i´m using scythe´s slipstream 1600RPM (controlled)for the rad´s then, .....

how would you do the tubing then ?

 

[phanbuey]

ok thx m8,

i´ll go for another MagiCool XTREME SINGLE 120 Radiator for the exhaust then , i´m using scythe´s slipstream 1600RPM (controlled)for the rad´s then, .....

how would you do the tubing then ?
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1724/tubing3.png

personally I would route it like this

the stuff in pink can be routed in a number of ways, I put the one which gives priority to the NB and VRMs, but whichever you like/looks the best in terms of tubing management...

like this would look better.

 

[Scrizz]

so if I add a 437W TEC would the triple + single be good

 

[phanbuey]

so if I add a 437W TEC would the triple + single be good

hrmmmm... TEC's are a bit different, I personally dont know much about them nor how low they have to be cooled in order to be effective. You will need a high flowrate in order to keep something that hot under control, so maybe no NB and SB blocks for you .


The general answer seems to be "a quad rad is fine but with a high flowrate and good airflow" ->
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/245151-29-magicool-arctic (btw... the koolance measure where it says that a dual rad can dissipate 700W of heat is done with some insanely high CFM fans, and does not represent reality.)
http://www.overclock.net/peltiers-tec/328828-437-w-tec-waterblock-other-than.html


you should ask Wile E - he knows alot about pelts.

 

[Scrizz]

k cool
I'm going 1/2" all the way

n0tiert: srry for jacking ur thread

 

[n0tiert]

k cool
I'm going 1/2" all the way

n0tiert: srry for jacking ur thread

np Scrizz,

it was a great information for both of us

haha ordered the 2nd rad, i think i´ll never finish it since i have to wait again for more parts to come........

 

[Scrizz]

lol

 

[n0tiert]

Waaahooo, finally my canned Anfi-tech Mainboard Waterblocks arrived today
These are NO mass products, and they are Handcrafted !

As a gimmick they include a AF keychain

Here some pictures:

 

[Scrizz]

ooooo very nice

 

[n0tiert]

here is view from board with the waterblocks:

the progress is getting a face