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Hi fast question. My mobo Asus Z170-P and psu Corsair 750RM. If i make very brief power outage ( for 2 second? ) my pc restart ( instead of shutting down ) with message: "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue." After restart is again fine. So question. Why after very brief power outage i am getting this msg and pc restarting instead of shutting down? Is this normal?
 
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If i make very brief power outage ( for 2 second? )
"Very brief"??? 2 seconds is an eternity! Your CPU has likely worked through 6 billion clock cycles in that time. Your power supply is only required to "hold up" power for a mere 16/1000ths of 1 second (16milliseconds) when the voltages drops below 90VAC.

Your computer may be restarting because in the BIOS, it is set to restart after power returns from an outage.
 

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No i have choosed in BIOS AC POWER LOSS OFF. So i restart is on OFF.
So why it restarting itself after very short power brief?
With that msg:" "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue.""
 

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No i have choosed in BIOS AC POWER LOSS OFF. So i restart is on OFF.
So why it restarting itself after very short power brief?
With that msg:" "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue.""

Some power supplies don't play nice with the antisurge, if possible disable antisurge. Im noticing a pattern with Corsair powersupplies and asus motherboards.
 
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Some power supplies don't play nice eith the antisurge, if possible disable antisurge.
I think it is the other way around and ASUS Antisurge does not play well with some supplies. Even budget supplies tend to be very good at regulating outputs to maintain the required ±5% tolerances required by the ATX Form Factor standard. And most tend to do so while suppressing ripple well below the maximum allowed of 50mVpp. So it is up the motherboard regulator circuits to do any additional voltage dividing, cleaning and regulating after that and IMO, ASUS Antisurge interferes with that process causing more problems than it is worth. It is not hard to find many forum threads where disabling that ASUS Antisurge makes all sorts of shutdown and reboot problems go away.

So I agree, disable Antisurge - then put your computer on a "good" UPS with AVR.
 
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Some power supplies don't play nice with the antisurge, if possible disable antisurge. Im noticing a pattern with Corsair powersupplies and asus motherboards.
No problems for me with Asus's Anti-Surge with a Corsair PSU but it just might be an anomaly.
 

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No problems for me with Asus's Anti-Surge with a Corsair PSU but it just might be an anomaly.

Im glad it is for you, just that ive noticed those who come here complaining about this are on corsair psus.
 

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If you are overclocking, It has been recommended that you turn anti-surge protection off.
 
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Had my M7 Ranger for ~2yrs, OC via UEFI, 2 differing i5 4690K in it, quite a few GPUs one at time with ROM OCs, have had anti-surge protection on. No message as OP :D . Also have power on after AC loss disabled, have experienced couple time power outages in my home, not switching on after a power outage automatically.
 
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^^^Pure sine wave is better.^^^
No it's not. There is a lot of "marketing" hype about "pure" sinewave output UPS. Don't fall for it! That's all it is, marketing hype.

Any 1/2 way decent AC/DC power supply can handle the "stepped sinewave" or "stepped approximation" waveform just fine. They have for the last 25 years with no problems so there is no reason to believe the much more reliable and robust power supplies of today can't either. They are much more capable at handling power line anomalies than PSUs of yesteryear.

And that's not just computer PSUs, but the power supplies for our modems, routers, switches, monitors and more. The only time you really need a "pure" sinewave output UPS is when used to support highly "sensitive" health monitoring and life support equipment as found in hospital intensive care units.

All computer and networking devices use DC voltages. It is actually easier to make a clean DC voltage converted from a stepped approximation sinewave than it is from a pure (round tops) sinewave because less filtering is required.

Do not forget that 99% of the time, our UPS is not "on-line". That is, it is not acting as a battery backup, except during a total power outage. It is just "in-line" acting as a sophisticated "automatic voltage regulator" (AVR). It is really for the AVR that we need a "good" UPS. Backup power during a full power outage is just the icing on the cake. But even then, power supplies do just fine with stepped approximation outputs.

BTW, a surge and spike protector is little more than a fancy and expensive extension cord as they do absolutely nothing for abnormal low voltage events like dips (opposite of spikes) and sags (opposite of surges), or long duration sags (brownouts) - any of which can cause your electronics to suddenly stop, resulting in possible corruption. And for "extreme" surges and spikes, a surge and spike protector simply kills power (if working properly) to your components. That's hardly good for your computer, drives, or data.

The only reason pure sinewave UPSs have gotten a lot of attention lately is because the prices have FINALLY come down so they are within reach. That and aggressive marketing from makers of such UPS.

Since they have come way down in price in recent years, they have become competitive. So if you find one and the price is right, go for it. I don't have anything against them. Just don't believe you need it, or that it is better for your connected devices.

FTR, I live in Tornado Alley where we frequently have severe weather. Total power outages are not everyday, but they are not rare either - especially in my 100 year old neighborhood where the utilities are not buried. I have a "good" UPS with AVR on all my computers in the house, and my home theater audio equipment and big screen TV. I also have one on my garage door opener and even one in the bedroom for the alarm clock and electric blanket! ;) None are pure sinewave and I have no plans or intentions of replacing any just because they are not pure sinewave.

just that ive noticed those who come here complaining about this are on corsair psus.
Me too but a lot of that could be simply because Corsairs are so popular. No doubt, for many people, ASUS' Antisurge feature works fine (or at least, does not cause problems). But for many, problems go away when that feature is disabled.

I note surge protection on the motherboard is not unique to ASUS. Gigabyte for example, uses anti-surge ICs as do other makers. The difference is Gigabyte and the others don't have extra code that interjects itself into the system. Typically, when one maker comes up with a feature that is successful, other makers soon follow suite. The ASUS Antisurge feature has been around for several years now and yet none of the other makers, that I am aware of, have found it necessary to include such monitoring software. They just depend on their hardware to suppress any surges and move on. And it works. That seems good enough for me too.
 
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No it's not. There is a lot of "marketing" hype about "pure" sinewave output UPS. Don't fall for it! That's all it is, marketing hype.

Any 1/2 way decent AC/DC power supply can handle the "stepped sinewave" or "stepped approximation" waveform just fine. They have for the last 25 years with no problems so there is no reason to believe the much more reliable and robust power supplies of today can't either. They are much more capable at handling power line anomalies than PSUs of yesteryear.

And that's not just computer PSUs, but the power supplies for our modems, routers, switches, monitors and more. The only time you really need a "pure" sinewave output UPS is when used to support highly "sensitive" health monitoring and life support equipment as found in hospital intensive care units.

All computer and networking devices use DC voltages. It is actually easier to make a clean DC voltage converted from a stepped approximation sinewave than it is from a pure (round tops) sinewave because less filtering is required.

Do not forget that 99% of the time, our UPS is not "on-line". That is, it is not acting as a battery backup, except during a total power outage. It is just "in-line" acting as a sophisticated "automatic voltage regulator" (AVR). It is really for the AVR that we need a "good" UPS. Backup power during a full power outage is just the icing on the cake. But even then, power supplies do just fine with stepped approximation outputs.

BTW, a surge and spike protector is little more than a fancy and expensive extension cord as they do absolutely nothing for abnormal low voltage events like dips (opposite of spikes) and sags (opposite of surges), or long duration sags (brownouts) - any of which can cause your electronics to suddenly stop, resulting in possible corruption. And for "extreme" surges and spikes, a surge and spike protector simply kills power (if working properly) to your components. That's hardly good for your computer, drives, or data.

The only reason pure sinewave UPSs have gotten a lot of attention lately is because the prices have FINALLY come down so they are within reach. That and aggressive marketing from makers of such UPS.

Since they have come way down in price in recent years, they have become competitive. So if you find one and the price is right, go for it. I don't have anything against them. Just don't believe you need it, or that it is better for your connected devices.

FTR, I live in Tornado Alley where we frequently have severe weather. Total power outages are not everyday, but they are not rare either - especially in my 100 year old neighborhood where the utilities are not buried. I have a "good" UPS with AVR on all my computers in the house, and my home theater audio equipment and big screen TV. I also have one on my garage door opener and even one in the bedroom for the alarm clock and electric blanket! ;) None are pure sinewave and I have no plans or intentions of replacing any just because they are not pure sinewave.

Me too but a lot of that could be simply because Corsairs are so popular. No doubt, for many people, ASUS' Antisurge feature works fine (or at least, does not cause problems). But for many, problems go away when that feature is disabled.

I note surge protection on the motherboard is not unique to ASUS. Gigabyte for example, uses anti-surge ICs as do other makers. The difference is Gigabyte and the others don't have extra code that interjects itself into the system. Typically, when one maker comes up with a feature that is successful, other makers soon follow suite. The ASUS Antisurge feature has been around for several years now and yet none of the other makers, that I am aware of, have found it necessary to include such monitoring software. They just depend on their hardware to suppress any surges and move on. And it works. That seems good enough for me too.

I guess I got lucky on my board because I have no such feature (none posted in the bios).
 

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If i make very brief power outage ( for maybe 2 second? ) my pc restart instead of shutdown with message: "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue." After restart is again fine. So question. Why after very brief power outage i am getting this msg? Is this normal?

I have AC POWER LOSS restart OFF after power outage. So why it restarting instead of shutdown with that message ?
 

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If i make very brief power outage ( for maybe 2 second? ) my pc restart instead of shutdown with message: "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue." After restart is again fine. So question. Why after very brief power outage i am getting this msg? Is this normal?

I have AC POWER LOSS restart OFF after power outage. So why it restarting instead of shutdown with that message ?
It's because the motherboard is detecting a surge which tend to be false positives (even sags/brownouts cause issues), listen to what myself and Bill Bright said, turn the feature off in your motherboard bios, that will fix the issue of the board not powering down fully. You can always get live support chat from Asus' website on this. Otherwise sell the psu and motherboard. If you ignore what was just said then you are on your own and a fool for not listening.
 
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Last question , really.

Somebody said to me :"If your wall power is okay, this message can be an indication of a faulty power supply"

My wall power is ok. For test when i cut power for 1-2 second my pc goes restart with Anti Surge message. So its my psu faulty or not?
 
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If i make very brief power outage ( for maybe 2 second? ) my pc restart instead of shutdown with message: "“Power supply surges detected during the previous power on ASUS anti-surge was triggered to protect system from unstable supply unit.” Press F1 to continue." After restart is again fine. So question. Why after very brief power outage i am getting this msg? Is this normal?

I have AC POWER LOSS restart OFF after power outage. So why it restarting instead of shutdown with that message ?
Your question has been answered in great detail here, yet you ask the same exact thing several posts later. Have you not understood anything that's been said?

Look, turning the power off and on like that for 2 seconds is just buggering up your computer with big voltage dips and spikes, so it behaves unpredictably. It's a bit like kicking it in the teeth and is a pointless "test". You'll most likely damage it over time if you continue.
 
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Last question , really.

Somebody said to me :"If your wall power is okay, this message can be an indication of a faulty power supply"

My wall power is ok. For test when i cut power for 1-2 second my pc goes restart with Anti Surge message. So its my psu faulty or not?


As above you've been answered most likely your PSU is fine turn of the anti surge crap and stop asking for more help when you've been answered already

also you could try standing on one foot whilst whistling Dixie and and poking yourself in the eye that might work too /s
 
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