RTX 3060 TI vs RX 6700 XT

[Xardas93]

Hello there!
So i'm planning on buying a gpu once gpus get back to msrp/below (I live in Europe so i don't get the good deals that US buyers get) and i'm looking at these 2 atm (also maybe the 3070 if i can find a good deal).
I'm gaming at 1440p and i plan on keeping the gpu for at least 4 years, so i'd like it to be as ''future proof'' as possible.
On paper the additional 4gb of vram will greatly benefit the 6700xt and while i was looking at some benchmarks to see the performance between them,i came across this video (skip to the 6 minute mark) :

That was at 4k,will the vram difference make a big impact on performance at 1440p in upcoming games? Which one do you guys think will age better?

 

[neatfeatguy]

Take a look at the game comparisons that Techspot did earlier this month on the 3060Ti vs the 6700XT.

This should help you make an informed decision: https://www.techspot.com/review/2447-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-vs-radeon-6700-xt/

 

[Frick]

If similar price the 6700XT is absolutely the better card, and the extra memory will absolutely come in handy.

 

[Xardas93]

If similar price the 6700XT is absolutely the better card, and the extra memory will absolutely come in handy.

Right now the 6700XT and the 3060 ti are the same price (way above msrp of course),while the cheapest 3070 is about 200 euros more expensive.

Take a look at the game comparisons that Techspot did earlier this month on the 3060Ti vs the 6700XT.

This should help you make an informed decision: https://www.techspot.com/review/2447-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-vs-radeon-6700-xt/

''In our opinion, 12GB VRAM should be the minimum at this price point.''
I guess i should get the 6700XT.

 

[dgianstefani]

IMO 3060ti is better since DLSS, NVENC, Shadowplay etc. All much better software than radeon. 16gb framebuffer is useless since neither card will run out of buffer before running out of shading power.

Even my 3080ti has 12gb and that's more than enough.

The performance difference between the two varies between games, and there isn't really a clear winner.

 

[Ruru]

I'd go for the Radeon, like said above, the 50% extra VRAM is more than a good reason to get a 6700 XT instead of a 3060 Ti.

 

[Chrispy_]

Do you want to play games with raytracing yes/no?

RTX is the only reason to recommend the 3060Ti over the 6700XT, and as a 3060Ti owner, I don't use raytracing - in a lot of games it's simply not fast enough without enabling DLSS and then you get blurry details and in some instances weird ghosting artifacting too.

Nvidia NVENC is better than the AMD encoder for livestreaming at low bitrates, but that's a pretty niche reason to pick Nvidia over AMD.

 

[Xardas93]

Do you want to play games with raytracing yes/no?

No,i always thought that rt is more of a gimmick that eats your fps in order to make you buy a more expensive gpu that is capable of getting the fps you want with it turned on (which is exactly what nvidia wants).

 

[neatfeatguy]

No,i always thought that rt is more of a gimmick that eats your fps in order to make you buy a more expensive gpu that is capable of getting the fps you want with it turned on (which is exactly what nvidia wants).

I don't know if I should feel bad for AMD for being so far behind in RT performance when compared to what Nvidia cards can do OR if I should feel bad for Nvidia for having dedicated cores to handle RT and they still suck at it. Perhaps next gen (certainly the one after) will show significant improvements to actually make ray tracing an informative part of your purchase decision. But like you say, right now it's just kind of a gimmick.

Personally I don't think RT has made any kind of impressive impact on my gaming performance when I've played a few games that use it on my 3080. I can play the game with it on or off and not care one way or the other. All I know is, if RT is off then I don't have to dink around with DLSS to keep framerates high.

 

[Lionheart]

If you want more rasterization performance & extra VRAM go the AMD card, if you prefer Nvidia features like DLSS, better RT performance ect... get the Nvidia card but IMO I'd get the Radeon card, rasterization is still king tbh. Also it depends on price where you live as well, since you want your card to last around the 4 year mark, hopefully AMD's FSR 2.0 can give your card a longer life span.

 

[droopyRO]

Make a list of the games you play or want to play and see if AMD or Nvidia's card performs better.
I opted for 3060 Ti since i play Total War games where AMD has poor performance. Also Nvidia has DLSS and FSR that might come in handy later. AMD dose not have the former.

 

[nguyen]

Make a list of the games you play or want to play and see if AMD or Nvidia's card performs better.
I opted for 3060 Ti since i play Total War games where AMD has poor performance. Also Nvidia has DLSS and FSR that might come in handy later. AMD dose not have the former.

From the look of it UE5 games will require DLSS/TSR/FSR2.0 to get acceptable framerates on any current GPU and it doesn't require that much VRAM (less than 8GB @ 4K)

So yeah 6700XT would be too slow to run anything before that 12GB VRAM matters.

 

[CraptacularOne]

The first generation of AMD cards that support future looking tech like RT acceleration leave a lot to be desired performance wise when used. I would get the RTX 3060 Ti for this reason. I think 8GB of VRAM will still be plenty for 1440p gaming at high settings for the next few years. Nvidia just has a more effective architecture for doing things like ray tracing, then you get the value adds like DLSS, the superior video encoder....etc. Plus you'll still be able to use FSR if you want or if DLSS isn't available in it.

 

[Xardas93]

From the look of it UE5 games will require DLSS/TSR/FSR2.0 to get acceptable framerates on any current GPU

So yeah 6700XT would be too slow to run anything before that 12GB VRAM matters.

Stalker 2 uses UE5 and has as recommended gpu the 5700XT,which is about 25% slower than the 6700XT,so it should be good enough.

 

[X71200]

Having used a 3060 Ti for long, I'd go with a 6700 XT. You get DLSS and stuff as a bonus with the NV, but the 6700 XT is significantly stronger. You can use better forms of AA with the 6700 and still keep going at an acceptable FPS.

 

[nguyen]

Stalker 2 uses UE5 and has as recommended gpu the 5700XT,which is about 25% slower than the 6700XT,so it should be good enough.

Yeah sadly STALKER2 is never going to come out at this point :/, and I think that recommended specs is only for 1080p 60FPS

 

[droopyRO]

Having used a 3060 Ti for long, I'd go with a 6700 XT. You get DLSS and stuff as a bonus with the NV, but the 6700 XT is significantly stronger. You can use better forms of AA with the 6700 and still keep going at an acceptable FPS.

As i said before. TW Warhammer III, RTX 3060 TI 44.6 fps in the Battle benchmark, 6700 XT only manages 36.1 fps. In other games they are closer together or the 6700 XT might even be better. But don't generalise. Also the 6700XT is about 100 Euros more expensive in our stores. So anybody pondering this aquisition should take this in to cosideration.

 

[X71200]

As i said before. TW Warhammer III, RTX 3060 TI 44.6 fps in the Battle benchmark, 6700 XT only manages 36.1 fps. In other games they are closer together or the 6700 XT might even be better. But don't generalise. Also the 6700XT is about 100 Euros more expensive in our stores. So anybody pondering this gams should take this in to cosideration.

I'm not doing that, though. Check couple reviews and look at the over all results consisting of more than one game, you'll find that the 6700 XT is indeed stronger.

It's not always a lot more expensive, either. Though, the bigger advantage to me comes from being able to use every FS monitor out there perfectly, and some OC potential on top. Don't get me wrong, the 3060 Ti is no bad card, but it'll just fall shorter than a 6700 XT in an intense situation such as MSFS. Most games will play perfectly fine at QHD with both cards. What you said seems to be an extreme situation that could have gone either way, or just favors one card to another.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The 6700XT will age better in rasterizaion but I wouldn't feel good about either long term unless gaming at 1080p or if you get them 100+ under msrp.

For 1440p with high/ultra settings I'd shoot for somthing higher or wait for 4000/7000 series cards. I see people above mentioning it but I'd wait for a AAA UE5 game to come out before making any decision on current gen tech. Almost every major developer is using it.

 

[eidairaman1]

Larger frame buffers dont have to do draw calls from main system memory as much.

 

[Xardas93]

or wait for 4000/7000 series cards.

From my understanding,the next gpus that will release this year will be all high end 1000+ cards like the 4080/4090 or 7800XT/7900XT.
60 ti's/70's series from nvidia or 700 series from amd won't come out until next year.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

From my understanding,the next gpus that will release this year will be all high end 1000+ cards like the 4080/4090 or 7800XT/7900XT.
60 ti's/70's series from nvidia or 700 series from amd won't come out until next year.

Nobody really knows but a 6700XT or 3060ti isn't lasting 4 years unless you like playing medium/low settings in the 3/4 year at 1440p.

 

[R-T-B]

From the look of it UE5 games will require DLSS/TSR/FSR2.0 to get acceptable framerates on any current GPU and it doesn't require that much VRAM (less than 8GB @ 4K)

So yeah 6700XT would be too slow to run anything before that 12GB VRAM matters.

Depends on the game. That UE5 city example is helluva complex example, and not all games will have that much going on.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Depends on the game. That UE5 city example is helluva complex example, and not all games will have that much going on.

I agree and it's mostly CPU limited with any high end gpu seems the global illumination is currently calculated by the Cpu in its current state... Sill I would want to see a AAA game based on it before committing to a GPU for the next 4 years.... Hopefully some of the higher end Ampere/RDNA2 drop to a price comfortable to OP before they pull the trigger.

 

[nguyen]

I agree and it's mostly CPU limited with any high end gpu... Sill I would want to see a AAA game based on it before committing to a GPU for the next 4 years.... Hopefully some of the higher end Ampere/RDNA2 drop to a price comfortable to them before they pull the trigger.

Well the CPU bottleneck can be removed by removing people and cars in the demo. All in all UE5 in its stock config is very neutral toward Nvidia/AMD, but then game devs can still optimize their game for Nvidia/AMD