RTX 4070 Ti performance unveil.

[lightning70]

RTX 4070 Ti performance emerges. Equivalent to 3090 Ti in ray tracing and Classic performance. If you have a 3090, you can keep up with this card by overclocking it for performance on par with the 4070 Ti. Classic performance is below the 7900 XT but Ray Tracing is of course better. I think the MSRP will be set at $799. What are your comments?

 

[Darksword]

If you don't care about power efficiency, a used 3090 will give you similar performance at the same price, but with 2x the VRAM.

 

[Why_Me]

If you don't care about power efficiency, a used 3090 will give you similar performance at the same price, but with 2x the VRAM.

Do people actually buy used gpu's online?

 

[DrCR]

$799.

A ~3090 for $800? In 2023?

yay

 

[Why_Me]

A ~3090 for $800? In 2023?

yay

Because nothing says 'please hose me' like purchasing a used Nvidia gpu online right after the crypto crash.

 

[dir_d]

Nvidia usually scores higher in these benchmarks so the rasterization will most likely trade blows with a 3090. If the card is being sold at 800 its DOA and just another reason to wait for the next generation.

 

[Why_Me]

Nvidia usually scores higher in these benchmarks so the rasterization will most likely trade blows with a 3090. If the card is being sold at 800 its DOA and just another reason to wait for the next generation.

I love this board. Looking at the link down below I'm going to go out on a limb here and say $800 RTX 4070 Ti 12GB< RTX 3080 Ti 12GB in regards to price. Now the next big question is will the RTX 4070 Ti 12GB outperform the RTX 3080 Ti 12GB. I'm going to go out on another limb here and say 'yes I think it will'.

https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=rtx+3080+ti

 

[95Viper]

Let's stay on topic.

 

[wolf]

Feels like again with this generation the biggest issue will be the price. Here's hoping it sharpens up in the new year when both camps have gotten over their desire to price to move old gen stock.

 

[sLowEnd]

Fine card, but a tad expensive. Common theme for Ada cards.

 

[OkieDan]

Aren't new tariffs by US against imports from China going to restart this month? I'm honestly not sure, but if they do, I don't expect prices to be very good for a long time in the US.

 

[Why_Me]

Aren't new tariffs by US against imports from China going to restart this month? I'm honestly not sure, but if they do, I don't expect prices to be very good for a long time in the US.

US Delays Re-Imposing Tariffs on GPUs for Another 9 Months

The US government is considering amending and possibly even canceling the Trump-era tariffs on many Chinese-made electronics.

www.pcmag.com

 

[Pumper]

As predicted, 7900XT getting price cut for 749-799 a month post release.

$800 RTX 4070 Ti 12GB< RTX 3080 Ti 12GB in regards to price

How is that relevant? Compare it to 3070Ti price, if you want to pretend that the 4080_12GB/4070_Ti is not really a 4060 Ti.

 

[nguyen]

Feels like again with this generation the biggest issue will be the price. Here's hoping it sharpens up in the new year when both camps have gotten over their desire to price to move old gen stock.

Nvidia and AMD are probably bound by contractual obligations to keep making old gen for awhile longer, they can't just say bye bye to TSMC/Samsung contracts without facing litigation

 

[InfernalAI]

RTX 4070 Ti performance emerges. Equivalent to 3090 Ti in ray tracing and Classic performance. If you have a 3090, you can keep up with this card by overclocking it for performance on par with the 4070 Ti. Classic performance is below the 7900 XT but Ray Tracing is of course better. I think the MSRP will be set at $799. What are your comments?View attachment 276986

Appears to be roughly 10% better than the 7900xt in ray tracing and then roughly 10% slower in rasterization. That looks to be the best prediction for where the performance will be at based on these benchmarks. Based on comparison with how these benchmarks compare to game benchmarks, I'd predict the 4070ti will be around 14% faster in ray tracing and 5% slower in rasterization than the 7900xt. This is all in regards to 4k.

 

[trog100]

a nice example of what comes where..

trog

 

[Why_Me]

How is that relevant? Compare it to 3070Ti price, if you want to pretend that the 4080_12GB/4070_Ti is not really a 4060 Ti.

The average consumer who just wants to game, surf the net and maybe watch some youtube could care less about such things as 'Moore's Law'. The most they'll do is look at a few gaming benchmarks that relate to the resolution they play at, possibly check out the power consumption if they live in the EU and then check the current prices to see what card fits their budget.

Now we wait and see where that card sits on this list after Wizard's review.

 

[N/A]

In games much slower than synthetics are suggesting, only 30% faster than a 3070 Ti and so obviously a 3080 Ti level, that is until proper GDDR7 in 50 series.

 

[Bomby569]

Nvidia and AMD are probably bound by contractual obligations to keep making old gen for awhile longer, they can't just say bye bye to TSMC/Samsung contracts without facing litigation

Imagine it was milk or eggs, something with a expiration date. Companies make contracts every day, some times expectations don't come true, you just renegotiate.

Nvidia/AMD should have negotiated with the fabs, pay a % of the contract and move on. TSMC/Samsung would take the money and move on. It's not like they are more then compensated by the crypto months.

Keeping the contracts as it is stupid for everyone involved. Nvidia/AMD have a problem with the old gen and the new gen, the upset customers and partners are worst off. TSMC/Samsung could have taken part of the money and not have to produce and they would be even happier.

 

[Tomgang]

It's just another rebranded card, formerly know as 4080 12 gb. So it is now called 4070 ti and maybe 100 usd cheaper. Well guess nvidia has seen how well 4080 16 gb sells

So what I think is, you can now get 2000 usd performance for around 800 usd. Seems like a good deal, just remember ngreedia first wanted to sell you it as a 4080 12 gb and for 900 usd and at 800 usd, it is still 100 usb more expensive than 3080 10 gb. So now it's just a new name and maybe a bit cheaper. But it is still the same bs under the skin. You still pay 3080 12 gb pride for a 4070 tier card. Don't let them get away with it. If we don't start to say no, nvidia will keep up there cash grabbing.

Yes I know I have 4090. But that is at least almost same price as 3090. What I find wrong is that the slower cards, has become so much more expensive for just one generation of cards. That can only in my opinion be called cash grabbing. Had I been chosen to get a cheaper card. I had been looking over at amd in stead. 4070 ti/4080 no thanks nvidia.

 

[error1984]

Nvidia and AMD are probably bound by contractual obligations to keep making old gen for awhile longer, they can't just say bye bye to TSMC/Samsung contracts without facing litigation

I bet they do work together on pricing too. The thing is apart from ray tracing the rx 6000 and rtx 3000 provide enough of performance in these old ps4 engine games available on the market. In the next two years min requirements will sky rocket when game developers finally ditch last gen hardware.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

I bet they do work together on pricing too. The thing is apart from ray tracing the rx 6000 and rtx 3000 provide enough of performance in these old ps4 engine games available on the market. In the next two years min requirements will sky rocket when game developers finally ditch last gen hardware.

Duopoly(Intel is not enough to make real competition in performance/watt/drivers quality) cartel behavior, even if there is no real collusion behind the scenes.

 

[Vya Domus]

I bet they do work together on pricing too. The thing is apart from ray tracing the rx 6000 and rtx 3000 provide enough of performance in these old ps4 engine games available on the market. In the next two years min requirements will sky rocket when game developers finally ditch last gen hardware.

Duopoly(Intel is not enough to make real competition in performance/watt/drivers quality) cartel behavior, even if there is no real collusion behind the scenes.

Not to sound like the guy defending billion dollar companies here but you guys are aware there has been like 20-30% devaluation of most currencies around the world in the past 2 years, right ? As much as I would like for prices to never increase we have to face reality here, there was no way these things wouldn't be significantly more expensive simply because of the inflation alone.

 

[Dan.G]

Feels like again with this generation the biggest issue will be the price. Here's hoping it sharpens up in the new year when both camps have gotten over their desire to price to move old gen stock.

True. If they would've used TSMC 6N I wouldn't have minded 15% less performance for 30% less price, as an example.
I feel like they'll consider subscription-based performance, in the coming years
You buy a RTX 5050 and for a measly 50 $ / month you can turn it into a RTX 5070

 

[TumbleGeorge]

has been like 20-30% devaluation of most currencies around the world in the past 2 years

2020	1.4
2021	7
2022*	7.1

For USA.
*2022 estimated

1.4+7+7.1=15.5
This is not for 2 but for 3 years.