Ryzen 3950X Build Help

[erek]

I'm going to do a new build around the 3950X on the X570 Platform. What motherboards do you recommend? So far i'm looking at the ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII Hero.

I also need RAM recommendations.


So far i've already got the following components:

RTX 2080 Ti FE

Inland 1TB NVMe M.2 (Phison E12 Controller)

Samsung 950 Pro 512GB NVMe M.2

Corsair AX1200 PSU

Corsair H115i RGB AIO Water Cooler (Hope it's compatible ?)

 

[Wavetrex]

Perhaps wait for 3950X to actually get released?

What's the point of "building" something with a non-existing part ?

 

[erek]

Perhaps wait for 3950X to actually get released?

What's the point of "building" something with a non-existing part ?

do you think we'll see a new line of motherboards related to the 3950X release?

 

[Wavetrex]

do you think we'll see a new line of motherboards related to the 3950X release?

No but I do think there will be a bunch of reviews done on different boards once it gets released.
Right now the closest you can get is to look for reviews of 3900X, but it doesn't mean it will be the exact same thing.

AMD delayed that chip for a reason, and that reason might be binning... they just don't get enough "best quality" chiplets to build them 3950X'es

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I think you don’t want to get parts too soon, cause if you run into trouble, you have less time to troubleshoot and return parts.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I agree with wavetrex. Wait till you can actually buy the cpu and then decide on a motherboard.

That being said all of the high end boards will handle it no problem Asrock Gaming X, Aorus Master, Crosshair VIII, Meg Ace.... The slightly cheaper Taichi will also handle it just fine from a Vrm perspective.
I would just go with whatever your preference and I/O needs align with the most.

I'm really liking the Master but a couple of people on the forum are having issues with it unfortunately.

 

[jaggerwild]

The 3900X is hard to get, you will not get a 3950X anytime soon!!!You can get a 3900X but you'll pay the same price as a 3950X.

 

[erek]

what about RAM then being considered ahead of time?

3600 MHz?

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Vengeance-3600MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07D1TT84Z

 

[Wavetrex]

what about RAM then being considered ahead of time?

3600 MHz?

Keep your money in the bank ahead of time.

There is no way of knowing, really !
Maybe 3950X can work with 4000 Mhz RAM with 1:1 IF speed (2000 Mhz), something that the already released ones cannot (they top out at 1900)

Also, by the time 3950X is on the market, more memory models might launch, and prices could vary a lot.
However, I'm almost convinced that the best DIMMs will still use Samsung chips, that can do CL14 at 3600 without breaking a sweat. That Corsair you linked is C18 ... eww.

I really don't understand why waste your brain effort with something that doesn't exist yet ?

 

[erek]

Keep your money in the bank ahead of time.

There is no way of knowing, really !
Maybe 3950X can work with 4000 Mhz RAM with 1:1 IF speed (2000 Mhz), something that the already released ones cannot (they top out at 1900)

Also, by the time 3950X is on the market, more memory models might launch, and prices could vary a lot.
However, I'm almost convinced that the best DIMMs will still use Samsung chips, that can do CL14 at 3600 without breaking a sweat. That Corsair you linked is C18 ... eww.

I really don't understand why waste your brain effort with something that doesn't exist yet ?

Getting excited for the 3950X i guess is why the waste of the brain effort...

CL16 and CL14 get extremely expensive to almost double

scope out my current situation:

Ryzen Above: Best Memory Settings for AMD's 3000 CPUs, Tested

Is Ryzen 3000 optimized for DDR4-3200? What if we want more? We examine everything from frequency to rank count to nail down optimal settings.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[moproblems99]

CL16 and CL14 get extremely expensive to almost double

Why would you buy the most expensive CPU possible, gpu possible, and then skimp on the ram?

 

[Toothless]

Pointless thread until the chip is released. No one can recommend anything of value (no offense to anyone but no one knows the performance of the 3950x)

 

[erek]

Why would you buy the most expensive CPU possible, gpu possible, and then skimp on the ram?

almost 600 (or double the price for CL14) seems quite a bit for what seems not much difference in performance unless i'm wrong :-\

 

[Nordic]

Why would you buy the most expensive CPU possible, gpu possible, and then skimp on the ram?

Ram speed barely affects performance. Cpu and gpu will net you more performance per dollar spent than ram ever will.

Edit: I mistyped memory instead of gpu. It was corrected.

 

[phanbuey]

Plus with ryzen even low speed ram, if you crank the timings down you will get 95% there. linus has some benches of tightened 2133/2400mhz kits getting the same fps as 3600 c16/ 3200 c14 in his memory deep dive.

 

[moproblems99]

Ram speed barely affects performance. Cpu and memory will net you more performance per dollar spent than ram ever will.

I'm confused.

 

[Nordic]

I'm confused.

I am not sure why you are confused but you should read the tpu memory scaling performance. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/

 

[erek]

I am not sure why you are confused but you should read the tpu memory scaling performance. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/

This does seem to indicate a lot, ~5% gain for 3600 @ CL17 compared to 2400

AMD Zen 2 Memory Performance Scaling with Ryzen 9 3900X

We take a close look at memory scaling on AMD's new Zen 2 Ryzen 3900X, testing both application and gaming performance at seven different memory speed and timing combinations ranging from 2400 MHz all the way up to 4000 MHz.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[moproblems99]

Ram speed barely affects performance. Cpu and memory will net you more performance per dollar spent than ram ever will.

I am not sure why you are confused but you should read the tpu memory scaling performance. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/

I am confused because you said cpu and memory will net you more performance per dollar than ram.

RAM != Memory?

 

[Nordic]

I am confused because you said cpu and memory will net you more performance per dollar than ram.

RAM != Memory?

It has been corrected.

 

[Vya Domus]

The need for high memory clocks is indeed exaggerated. After 3200mhz you're in the diminishing returns realm.

 

[moproblems99]

It has been corrected.

My point is: You are spending stupid money already. What is another $100? You'll get 5 to 8% improvement.

 

[Nordic]

My point is: You are spending stupid money already. What is another $100? You'll get 5 to 8% improvement.

More like 1-5% improvement by the review I linked. I personally bought fast memory because cpu speed is important to the workloads I do. I bought a 3600mhz Cas 18 kit and overclocked it to Cas 16.

Another $100 could be a month of food for someone. It just depends.

Another $100

 

[TheLostSwede]

This is my $89 (equivalent local price converted) RAM. It's running way beyond my expectations and rated spec.
This is on a 3800X though, so you'd get higher writes on a 3900X or a 3950X.

Just FYI, a lot of people have reported having issues with Corsair RAM and Ryzen 3000. I also tested my old RAM, which was Corsair and it would not run at its rated speed of 3200MHz on the same setup.

 

[Nordic]

I am running corsair ram. Although I am running it faster than stock, I am having issues.