Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Calmmo · Dec 5, 2019

TheLostSwede said:
Try increasing the TRFC, as if it's too tight, at least in my experience, you get the random reboots. Your TRFC timings are quite tight already.
Check with the DRAM calculator to see what it suggests.

I ended up with soc 1.112 (or was it 18.. not sure lol) fixing all issues.
Then started dropping ram voltage down to 1.37 which led to no runtime issues but I was getting coldboot resets, loading up the profile and saving solved it.. but I had to go up to 1.39 eventually to eliminate those (so far). I kinda want to try something else just in case without dropping 48/288 rct/trfc as getting back to that 1.37 feels.. enticing.

TheLostSwede · Dec 5, 2019

Calmmo said:
I ended up with soc 1.112 (or was it 18.. not sure lol) fixing all issues.
Then started dropping ram voltage down to 1.37 which led to no runtime issues but I was getting coldboot resets, loading up the profile and saving solved it.. but I had to go up to 1.39 eventually to eliminate those (so far). I kinda want to try something else just in case without dropping 48/288 rct/trfc as getting back to that 1.37 feels.. enticing.

I have my RAM at 1.38V, but that's for four modules that are overclocked with tightened timings...
Your TRFC is very tight unless it's Samsung B-dies and that's one setting that seems to affect stability quite a bit, at least based on my experience.
I have not touched any other Voltages.

Calmmo · Dec 5, 2019

Well I am running Quad Rank b-die memory which is quite demanding for the memory controller. If I just simply.. run 3600 IF/mem everything becomes much much easier to run at stock voltages.
The final issue was just cold boot being a 50%-50% success at 1.37. I ran memtest for 4h without any errors at 1.36 even.

GoldenX · Dec 5, 2019

New beta BIOS on MSI.

Nordic · Dec 6, 2019

So my PC has a problem. My monitor stops receiving a signal and the keyboard lights turn off. The computer is not connected to the network, so clearly it is not functioning. The fans and motherboard lights still are on. I have no blue screen codes. Windows events shows a kernel power failure. The motherboard isn't giving me any hints.

I am not losing power but the system is not working. I am suspecting motherboard, memory, or cpu.

biffzinker · Dec 6, 2019

Nordic said:
So my PC has a problem. My monitor stops receiving a signal and the keyboard lights turn off. The computer is not connected to the network, so clearly it is not functioning. The fans and motherboard lights still are on. I have no blue screen codes. Windows events shows a kernel power failure. The motherboard isn't giving me any hints.

I am not losing power but the system is not working. I am suspecting motherboard, memory, or cpu.

Are you overclocking with a fixed multiplier? I ran into a power management issue with sleep mode when the PC resumes from sleep in which I couldn't get the monitor to receive a signal. Putting the multiplier back to Auto solved the sleep issue. I haven't tried with the AGESA 1.0.0.4 update to see if the problem was fixed.

Nordic · Dec 6, 2019

I am currently running default bios. I am on the latest AGESA.

Wickedt · Dec 6, 2019

Try 1 stick of ram at a time to see if thats it, if not i would think motherboard, because monitor and keyboard are IO's (input output) relying on the motherboard to do that.

Mussels · Dec 6, 2019

VR was overwhelming my second PC now that i have a rift S, so i looked into OCing it

Ryzen 1400, Can do 4.0Ghz at 1.5v, or 3.9Ghz at 1.42v
Currently 3.9Ghz with 2750Mhz on the ram, and far faster than the stock clocks - 55C max in burn tests, i think its happy

Calmmo · Dec 6, 2019

Sooo.. I found out last night my GPU was stuck running at x8 pci-e , not sure for how long because 3dmark system info was still coming up with x16 in its report and had no reason over the last few days to go looking into anything pcie related.

GPUz was showing x8 yesterday and today however, and the 3d mark pcie bench was giving me x8 numbers. Switching between all possible pcie settings in bios yielded 0 results. After that I aaalmost went through with completely uninstalling everything and reseating gpu, running without sata/nvme etc etc.

However before doing all that I chose to try one last thing, I went into bios and tried stock/load up defaults. And what do you know, im running x16!
Figured it must have been IF 3733 at some point breaking up pcie speed somehow.

So I went back and slowly built back up all my basic settings in order to see where things break,
and after many restarts I was up to ram + loose timings 3733 ram + IF coupled.. aand still running x16 after every change.
Then I loaded up my entire old profile and I'm in the OS running x16 just fine.
Did a complete power discharge and booted up again after a while.. Still fine..

Moral of the story, umm, when in doubt... just do load up defaults??

GoldenX · Dec 6, 2019

Flashed the latest BIOS on my B350. It said better RAM OC.
Almost managed 3533, in the past I couldn't even boot at that.

Wickedt · Dec 6, 2019

Funny, because i am about to install the latest beta from ASRock, and its says it fixes pci-e compatibility, so maybe other motherboard vendors in the same boat after latest bios to 1.0.0.4b

Update:

So i decided to install the new Beta bios 2.56.
Seems to be major solid, and also my performance went up.

I saw 4.625 on core 0 just booting up, which ive never seen, and then 2 cores at 4.6 Ghz after running Cinebench 20 multicore.

Seems there's more to this bios then just pci-e compatibility. I also noticed some changes in the actual structure of the bios layout itself.

For fun i ran the benchmarks at default bios (after resetting) and after tweaking the ram and bios settings.

What a difference!

Default

Tweaked

Mussels · Dec 7, 2019

My x370 has 1.0.0.4 before my B450 does

oh wells

potato580+ · Dec 7, 2019

GoldenX said:
Flashed the latest BIOS on my B350. It said better RAM OC.
Almost managed 3533, in the past I couldn't even boot at that.

mines still good without update, 3200mhz stable, juat abit hot for the sticks, but since it still under warranty i dont much care to push the ram hehe

Mussels · Dec 7, 2019

x370 does boot faster on the new BIOS, around 15 seconds from power on to logged in - not the fastest i've ever seen, but it does have a large delay before the monitor even powers on (unsure wtf its doing there)

Frick · Dec 8, 2019

So my nephew gave me a 2600x, and it's really nice. Ripping DVDs (finally getting around to it) twice as fast as the 1200 while playing games. Good. But I am wondering how one sets CPU voltages, it seems just lowering it in BIOS doesn't really do anything. I assume it has to do with the boost things.

Also, what are good temps for these? AMD Master whatevs reports like 65C load, and that is with the fan in high mode. It might be seated poorly, but on the other hand I really don't care about temps anymore. As long as the system does not shut down I'm ok.

HTC · Dec 8, 2019

Frick said:
Also, what are good temps for these? AMD Master whatevs reports like 65C load, and that is with the fan in high mode. It might be seated poorly, but on the other hand I really don't care about temps anymore. As long as the system does not shut down I'm ok.

With a Threadripper, a moderator @ Anandtech had his AIO fail (NOT by leaking: 84ºC @ idle, in BIOS) which caused the CPU to throttle all the way down to 500 MHz: the PC didn't shutdown and no harm came to the CPU.

I suppose Ryzen would behave the same way since the chiplets are the same, with the exception of the IO dies.

tabascosauz · Dec 9, 2019

Was half-seriously flirting with the idea of getting a 3900X, so maybe this is the 3700X's idea of reminding me to stick with what I have:

Talk about feature-rich!

robot zombie · Dec 9, 2019

tabascosauz said:
Was half-seriously flirting with the idea of getting a 3900X, so maybe this is the 3700X's idea of reminding me to stick with what I have:

View attachment 138873

Talk about feature-rich!

Duuuudeee what's the OC on that? Does it also do 10ghz?

Lorec · Dec 9, 2019

Been playing around since saturday.
Havent achived 4.7 yet.
Closest was 4.616

Im running Windows 10 1909, PBO is on disabled, core boost enhancement at auto.
I run Ryzen Balanced Power plan.
if i tried to input ryzen mem calculator values for 3733 or 3800 it would fail.
this is on DOCP. 3600 16-16-16-36

below is a run when I set 3800 and chose a memory preset in bios for 4000mhz 4x8gb 1.5V Bdie
Cache and memory benchmark's north bridge clock stated: 984 MHz like it would trigger 2:1 or something.
Something was fishy anyways since the Tcas was at 14...

Anyhow PBO disabled gives me much nicer temps, hoping to hit that 4.7 soon though!

BTW
Cpu Z score

Wickedt · Dec 11, 2019

Lorec said:
Been playing around since saturday.
Havent achived 4.7 yet.
Closest was 4.616
View attachment 138912 View attachment 138913
Im running Windows 10 1909, PBO is on disabled, core boost enhancement at auto.
I run Ryzen Balanced Power plan.
if i tried to input ryzen mem calculator values for 3733 or 3800 it would fail.
this is on DOCP. 3600 16-16-16-36

below is a run when I set 3800 and chose a memory preset in bios for 4000mhz 4x8gb 1.5V Bdie
Cache and memory benchmark's north bridge clock stated: 984 MHz like it would trigger 2:1 or something.
Something was fishy anyways since the Tcas was at 14...
View attachment 138914
Anyhow PBO disabled gives me much nicer temps, hoping to hit that 4.7 soon though!

BTW
Cpu Z score
View attachment 138920

That memory should be able to do 3733 fairly easy. Did you import your setting into Dram Calc with Thyphoon Burner? That was the only way i could get anything above 3600 when i got my Gskill Royal Silver (basically same ram, same timings), i just updated my Bios on X570 Taichi, and running at 3800 now flawlessly, even lower dram voltage.

Installed the new Bios update for Taichi X570 update says its 1.0.0.4 B (Bios 2.70)
Was able to run memory at 3800 with lower voltages then 3733, and while running Aida, noticed CPU was running at 46.25 multiplier, so 4625 MHz.

3800 bios2 70 — Postimages

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Happy with this update.

tabascosauz · Dec 12, 2019

biffzinker said:
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SMU v46.54.0

Would of preferred mATX but instead ended up with ATX.

Shaved off more than three seconds going from 16GB of Samsung D-die to 32GB of Hynix D-die. I use the 100% fan speed period of the 2060S FE to judge boot time; the noise is all but eliminated with the new RAM. Not sure how long the boot time would be if it defaulted to JEDEC 2133; this kit defaults to its XMP out of the box.

It's pretty interesting how much impact RAM choice has on boot times. Maybe some kits don't need any training at all upon boot.

Corsair LP 3200/16, probably MFR: 35 seconds to infinity because it wouldn't boot

Trident Z 3200/16, D-die: 14 to 21 seconds

Trident Z RGB 3600/working on timings, DJR: ~10 seconds

Lorec · Dec 12, 2019

Wickedt said:
That memory should be able to do 3733 fairly easy. Did you import your setting into Dram Calc with Thyphoon Burner? That was the only way i could get anything above 3600 when i got my Gskill Royal Silver (basically same ram, same timings), i just updated my Bios on X570 Taichi, and running at 3800 now flawlessly, even lower dram voltage.

Installed the new Bios update for Taichi X570 update says its 1.0.0.4 B (Bios 2.70)
Was able to run memory at 3800 with lower voltages then 3733, and while running Aida, noticed CPU was running at 46.25 multiplier, so 4625 MHz.

3800 bios2 70 — Postimages

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Happy with this update.

Ive tried 3800 safe and fast, 3733 safe and fast. All four didnt boot.
You saying its because I eyeballed the input?
...I mean I did have couple pints while I tinkered with it indeed :rolleyes:

Anyhow, export html from typhoon and import html in dram calc!
I shall try it tonight, thanks

Darmok N Jalad · Dec 12, 2019

Well, I recently picked up a 2700X when Microcenter was running the deal for $129. Got $30 off a motherboard too. I don’t know if I’ll mess much with OCing it—really just working on the fan curve on the Prism so it’s not so buzzy.

Wickedt · Dec 12, 2019

Lorec said:
Ive tried 3800 safe and fast, 3733 safe and fast. All four didnt boot.
You saying its because I eyeballed the input?
...I mean I did have couple pints while I tinkered with it indeed
Anyhow, export html from typhoon and import html in dram calc!
I shall try it tonight, thanks

Made a huge difference for me, btw im having a couple as i type, so much spellchecking lol

System Name	Apex Raptor: Silverback
Processor	Intel i9 13900KS Allcore @ 5.8
Motherboard	z790 Apex
Cooling	LT720 360mm + Phanteks T30
Memory	32GB @8200MT/s CL36
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090
Storage	990 PRO 4TB
Display(s)	Neo G8 / C1 65"
Case	Antec Performance 1
Audio Device(s)	DT 1990 Pro / Motu M2
Power Supply	Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w
Mouse	Scimitar Pro
Keyboard	K95 Platinum

System Name	Overlord Mk MLI
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory	32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s)	Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
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Audio Device(s)	Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Max
Software	Windows 10 Pro
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System Name	Apex Raptor: Silverback
Processor	Intel i9 13900KS Allcore @ 5.8
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Cooling	LT720 360mm + Phanteks T30
Memory	32GB @8200MT/s CL36
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090
Storage	990 PRO 4TB
Display(s)	Neo G8 / C1 65"
Case	Antec Performance 1
Audio Device(s)	DT 1990 Pro / Motu M2
Power Supply	Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w
Mouse	Scimitar Pro
Keyboard	K95 Platinum

System Name	Ciel
Processor	AMD Ryzen R5 5600X
Motherboard	Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus
Cooling	ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz@3933MHz
Video Card(s)	Gainward Ghost 3060 Ti 8GB + Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 8GB
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Display(s)	AOC Q27G3XMN + Samsung S22F350
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Power Supply	Aerocool KCAS-500W
Mouse	EVGA X15
Keyboard	VSG Alnilam
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Processor	7800x3d
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Memory	GSKILL 2x16gb 6000mhz Cas 30 with custom timings
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Storage	Adata SX8200 1tb with Windows, Samsung 990 Pro 2tb with games
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Case	ThermalTake P3
Power Supply	SuperFlower Leadex Titanium
Software	Windows 11 64 Bit
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Power Supply	EVGA 850 BQ
Mouse	SteelSeries Rival 310
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Processor	Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi
Cooling	Kraken X62
Memory	Gskill Royal Silver 15-16-15-15 @3800
Video Card(s)	RTX 2080 Strix OC
Storage	NVME Samsung Evo 970 Plus 2 TB, Samsung Evo 860 4 TB
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Case	Thermaltake View 71 RGB
Power Supply	EVGA 850G+
Mouse	Steel Series Sensei 10
Keyboard	Steel Series Apex 150
Software	Win 10

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Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
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Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	just ordinary potato system, but dont understimate potato..
Processor	ryzen raven ridge 2200g, ryzen 2600 upgrade:)
Motherboard	msi b350 pc mate, biostars a320, asrock ab350m micro
Cooling	x2 cheap china handmade, i got plenty aigo/fantech rgb fans now heh
Memory	klevv dual channel 8gb 3000mhz, trident 16gb 3600mhz, random ddr2 stick
Video Card(s)	back to square, using vega 56 now:D
Storage	wd green ssd 240gb, 3tb seagate expnasion, random laptop hdd x4, 1tb 3.5
Display(s)	acer vgo 22inch fullhd 75hz
Case	cheap segotep/dazumba mid atx, alcatroz mini atx
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Power Supply	be quite system power9, powerlogic standar, voltron 300fx, thermaltake smart 1200w
Mouse	rexus, genius ps/2, powerlogic ps/2 ball tracking
Keyboard	rexus, random china product x3
Software	talking abt best software, autodesk/unity3d/notepad yes notepad!!
Benchmark Scores	theres nothing to brag abt potato, but it can run decent 30fps fullhd with good setting:)

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Processor	Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard	Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling	Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
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Case	Fractal Design Define R4
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Mouse	Logitech G602
Keyboard	Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Rimworld 4K ready!

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Processor	Ryzen 5 5800X3D
Motherboard	Asrock Taichi X370
Cooling	NH-C14, with the AM4 mounting kit
Memory	G.Skill Kit 16GB DDR4 F4 - 3200 C16D - 16 GTZB
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse 6600 8 GB
Storage	1 Samsung NVMe 960 EVO 250 GB + 1 3.5" Seagate IronWolf Pro 6TB 7200RPM 256MB SATA III
Display(s)	LG 27UD58
Case	Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair TX 850M 80+ Gold
Mouse	Razer Deathadder Elite
Software	Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS

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Processor	7800X3D┃5800X3D
Motherboard	B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact
Cooling	NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67
Memory	64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14
Video Card(s)	RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000
Storage	8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550
Case	Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5

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Processor	Ryzen 9 5800x
Motherboard	Asus Rog Crosshair VIII Hero Wifi
Cooling	Lian Li Galahad AIO 360
Memory	G. Skill TridentZ Neo 32gb 3600Mhz CL16-16-16-36
Video Card(s)	Asus TUF RTX 3080
Storage	Samsung Evo 960 250gb (System), Samsung Evo 860 500gb (Misc), ADATA SX8200PNP (Games)
Display(s)	LG 27" UHD IPS, LG Ultragear 27" WQHD Nano IPS
Case	InWin 303 (7x Fractal Prisma 120mm)
Power Supply	Tt Toughpower Grand RGB 850W
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard	SteelSeries Apex 3
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Processor	Xeon E5-2667v2
Motherboard	ASUS P9X79 Pro
Cooling	Some cheap tower cooler, I dunno
Memory	32GB 1866-DDR3 ECC
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 5600XT
Storage	WD NVME 1GB
Display(s)	ASUS Pro Art 27"
Case	Antec P7 Neo

Processor	Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X370-F
Cooling	Dark Rock 4, 3x Corsair ML140 front intake, 1x rear exhaust
Memory	2x8GB TridentZ RGB [3600Mhz CL16]
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3060ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming
Storage	970 EVO 500GB nvme, 860 EVO 250GB SATA, Seagate Barracuda 1TB + 4TB HDDs
Display(s)	27" MSI G27C4 FHD 165hz
Case	NZXT H710
Audio Device(s)	Modi Multibit, Vali 2, Shortest Way 51+ - LSR 305's, Focal Clear, HD6xx, HE5xx, LCD-2 Classic
Power Supply	Corsair RM650x v2
Mouse	iunno whatever cheap crap logitech clutches Xbox 360 controller security blanket
Keyboard	HyperX Alloy Pro
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	ask your mother