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TechPowerUp Interviews David McAfee, GM of Client Channel Business, On the State of AMD Ryzen and Radeon

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As the 2025 International CES was drawing to a close, we hung around a little longer in Las Vegas to catch some important one-on-one interviews with industry leaders. We were invited by AMD to interview David McAfee Corporate Vice President and General Manager of the Client Channel Business. His position in the company gives him a hawk's eye view on everything that matters to you—from Ryzen desktop CPUs to Ryzen AI processors, the disruptive new Ryzen AI MAX chips, and the all important Radeon RX 9000 series powered by RDNA 4. AMD's CES 2025 announcements event had some notable misses, such as the lack of updates on the Radeon RX 9000 series, or even the Ryzen Z2 line of processors for gaming handhelds. We began by asking McAfee how this year's CES event was distinct from previous ones, often led by CEO Lisa Su and covering a wide range of product families.



The interview follows.

[subheading]Where was Lisa?[/subheading]
TechPowerUp: Why didn't Lisa lead the keynote this year? How was this year's CES different?

David McAfee: Well, this is CES, and Jack Huynh is our leader of the computing and graphics business. I think that all the news we announced at CES this year were part of Jack's product portfolio. So it was the right decision to allow him to lead those introductions this year and introduce the products that are part of his business. Lisa and Jack both decided that he was the right one to be the spokesperson for AMD to introduce all of his new products.



[subheading]Can "Strix Halo" Do to Xbox and PlayStation what Ryzen Z1-powered Handhelds did to Switch?[/subheading]
TechPowerUp: We've seen fantastic handheld game experiences from Ryzen Z1. Do you think "Strix Halo" could kick off a similar standalone console revolution?

David McAfee: I am really excited about "Strix Halo." I think it's an incredibly innovative product with a ton of potential. Whether that's as a mini desktop box for creators, a super-powerful small form factor desktop, or a compact, cool, and quiet under-the-TV gaming console, I think it has enormous potential. I think we will see a lot of creativity in how "Strix Halo" gets used and what form factors it fits into.

What you're seeing here at CES is just the beginning because there's real innovation around the shared memory footprint between CPU and GPU, the way the chip is constructed, the core count, and the GPU size. I think it will be used in many interesting ways. As a small form factor gaming console, it could be awesome.



TechPowerUp: So you're open to any form factor?

David McAfee: Yeah, it's certainly not notebook-only. One of the systems we have shown off here is an HP mini workstation. You'll see more designs from partners, including barebone desktops, small form factor desktops, and other designs. This will open up creativity around the types of cases and implementations.


The one I want at home is a "Strix Halo" mini desktop. That would be awesome. Or something with a different form factor. Yeah, what I actually want is something with a 120 mm liquid cooler.

TechPowerUp: Do you see a space for "Strix Point" on AM5—is there a need for stronger iGPU with NPU?

David McAfee: That's an interesting question. Strix is in a unique space. Maybe this is a good conversation about "Strix Halo" versus "Strix Point." In my opinion, there are levels of 3D performance that create different experience or capability levels on a desktop PC. What we need to prove to ourselves, or the market, is whether Strix as an AM5 desktop part provides a unique experience compared to a more basic graphics system. The next step is very playable 1080p gaming at 30+ frames per second. "Strix Halo" steps up to a different class of gaming. Just for the record, it does not fit the AM5 socket. It's about delivering a valuable experience to consumers given other market choices for CPU and GPU combinations, considering power, noise, and other factors. "Strix Point" is in a gray zone for me in terms of performance versus desktop user expectations.



[subheading]3D V-Cache Tech, Why Not Just Standardize it?[/subheading]
TechPowerUp: What would you like to tell gamers who want to buy a 9800X3D but can't find it in stock anywhere?

David McAfee: We've been blown away by demand for the X3D. We've ramped up production massively for Q4, Q1, and Q2 throughout 2025. Just yesterday, I saw the 9800X3D on Amazon and Newegg again. I don't think they lasted long, but they were there. Every week, we deliver more supply to the market. X3D has a longer manufacturing lead time due to the stacking process. As we look into 2025, we are adding significant manufacturing capacity.

TechPowerUp: Awesome! Given the huge success of 3D V-Cache, isn't it time to make it standard on all higher-end processors?

David McAfee: That's a great question. One thing about the desktop market is there's no one-size-fits-all. The 7950X3D is a great example. For gaming, X3D is awesome because the big block of cache next to the processor lowers memory latency, boosting gaming performance. But for creator applications like Photoshop or 3D rendering, X3D offers negligible benefit. The stacking process is expensive. There are many PC builders with different priorities, applications, and budgets. X3D is a critical part of our strategy, but it won't replace everything else.

TechPowerUp: Right now, the volumes are heavily skewed toward X3D.

David McAfee: Not really. You'd be surprised. On a global scale, the split between AM4 and AM5 is not far off from 50/50. Different markets have different preferences. North America and Western Europe skew toward higher-end AM5 builds.



TechPowerUp: The 7950X3D uses the same cache configuration as the 7900X3D. Why isn't there an offering with 3D cache on both CCDs? The community feedback gathered by us is that they'd be willing to pay for it.

David McAfee: We have looked at that. There hasn't been a lot of observed benefit with dual X3D CCDs. In some cases, it regresses performance due to cache coherency issues. But if there's market demand, we're open to exploring it.

TechPowerUp: What makes X3D so expensive? Is it the SRAM die, packaging, or volume?

David McAfee: Good question. When we build a 7700X versus a 7800X3D, it might seem simple from the outside. But there's a lot of complexity under the hood. You need to build the base CCD, the SRAM wafer, and apply special processing for assembly. It's a bleeding-edge technology. Costs will go down over time with economies of scale, but for now, it's leading-edge technology.

[subheading]On Ryzen Mobile Processors, Compact Cores, and Windows-on-Arm[/subheading]
TechPowerUp: In the desktop space Zen 4c has been out for a year or so (Ryzen 8500G). How do you feel about it?

David McAfee: Our APU products are used more for office productivity, business users, and power-efficient small form factor builds. They don't have the same demands as true enthusiast gaming PCs. Zen 4c is great for notebooks, where efficiency and cost are priorities. Many of those benefits translate into the desktop space as well.



TechPowerUp: Some people want more PCIe lanes on Ryzen. How do you feel about that?

David McAfee: That's a fair ask. Adding PCIe lanes has implications for the platform. The transition from AM4 to AM5 was very disruptive. Keeping the platform consistent is a big benefit to end users. Next-generation platforms will consider user builds and lane counts to ensure the right balance of computing power and I/O capabilities for different market segments.

TechPowerUp: What steps has AMD taken to improve the limited availability of Ryzen laptop designs?

David McAfee: Are you referring to the number of designs or market availability?

TechPowerUp: Both. Intel has so many designs, but AMD has technically better solutions that are less visible.

David McAfee: I'm not the expert on that side, but we work with OEM partners to ensure a broad portfolio of designs across brands, form factors, and price points.



TechPowerUp: What's your take on Windows on Arm? Has it failed?

David McAfee: I don't think it's a failure. Microsoft invested heavily to broaden their ecosystem. x86 is a mature ecosystem with decades of legacy. Arm-based devices have pushed innovation in power management. Arm brought valuable insights, but it's not seamless. However, it's driving innovation for all silicon makers.

TechPowerUp: How about AI on desktops?

David McAfee: We've advanced AI PCs significantly. There are many applications now running on the NPU, and we've expanded AI coverage across different product ranges. Desktops have more unbounded compute needs to be compared to NPUs. We focus on combining CPUs and GPUs for diverse workloads. I know there's anticipation for RDNA 4. We didn't cover it in-depth at CES to avoid disappointing people. We will do a full deep dive soon.

[subheading]Radeon RX 9000 series and RDNA 4[/subheading]
TechPowerUp: Is RDNA 4 a monolithic design?

David McAfee: We haven't talked about that yet.



TechPowerUp: Why are you introducing a new Radeon naming scheme at this time and why?

David McAfee: We've been building momentum with Radeon. Our strategy is similar to Ryzen—focus on value, listening to the community, and providing features they care about. We want to ensure that Radeon graphics deliver excellent capabilities for gamers at reasonable price points.



TechPowerUp: I like it.

David McAfee: It's a good move. Transparency helps consumers understand our products better.

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TechPowerUp: Why are you introducing a new Radeon naming scheme at this time and why?

David McAfee: We've been building momentum with Radeon. Our strategy is similar to Ryzen—focus on value, listening to the community, and providing features they care about. We want to ensure that Radeon graphics deliver excellent capabilities for gamers at reasonable price points.

Man, what a non-answer.
 
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TPU stepping up in the world.

But regarding David, I wonder how he deals with having the same name as one of the mosted hated anti-virus applications know to man?
 
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I'm confused why they are talking about Ryzen 7000 and not 9000.... Gamers really want your old products are you making more of them....
 
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This interview is like AMD keynote during CES, meh.
 
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TechPowerUp: Is RDNA 4 a monolithic design?

David McAfee: We haven't talked about that yet.

What a clueless response... That's why I believe these Q&A sessions rarely provide any valuable insights. o_O
"We know that dies shot of RDNA 4 have already been leaked, but there's stil a NDA that needs to be respected. Please for the official announcement of Radeon 9000 while we fix what's happening right now. Wich is of course another topic that I'm not allowed to talk about"
 
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Ever since the M1 series was released, I have been very interested in SoCs especially the integration of a unified memory architecture. I feel like the vast majority of users are served by 16, 32, 64 and 128 GB memory capacities. I also feel like users rarely upgrade RAM anymore and just buy the most amount they will ever need up front or at least until they upgrade to another platform requiring a different memory standard. Therefore, an SoC with low latency memory built close to the chip and shared across the CPU and GPU is a good solution even if it's not upgradeable. I would definitely like to see more growth in this segment especially given the iGPU performance stagnation of the recent past. It's the one area that no one except Apple has been able to provide a viable solution until Strix Halo.
I’m split on that one.

I agree with the capabilities, the shared memory brings crazy amount of performance, flexibility and possibilities but i dont think it applies to all platforms and users.

One thing that i would love is to be able to fully utilize the gpu integrated in the SOC with an optional dGPU, if the user decides to expand/upgrade.

I'm confused why they are talking about Ryzen 7000 and not 9000.... Gamers really want your old products are you making more of them....
Same here, i had to double check that this wasn't an old Q&A.

TechPowerUp: Is RDNA 4 a monolithic design?

David McAfee: We haven't talked about that yet.

What a clueless response... That's why I believe these Q&A sessions rarely provide any valuable insights. o_O
I think is good, since these days, will all these leaks, keynotes have lost their charm.

Its like how people spoiled the surprise in the Spider Man movie.
 
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TPU put up a good fight, but really was no match for Mr. McAfee's masterful defense. A complete shutout: he gave up no direct answers, no thoughtful insights, and certainly no breaking news.

May I suggest double-teaming or triple-teaming the VP next time? If three TPU staff are all shouting different questions simultaneously at close range, it may be enough to break through the talking points.
 
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TPU put up a good fight, but really was no match for Mr. McAfee's masterful defense. A complete shutout: he gave up no direct answers, no thoughtful insights, and certainly no breaking news.

May I suggest double-teaming or triple-teaming the VP next time? If three TPU staff are all shouting different questions simultaneously at close range, it may be enough to break through the talking points.
It must have felt like trying to score against Dominik Hašek.

Ever since the M1 series was released, I have been very interested in SoCs especially the integration of a unified memory architecture. I feel like the vast majority of users are served by 16, 32, 64 and 128 GB memory capacities. I also feel like users rarely upgrade RAM anymore and just buy the most amount they will ever need up front or at least until they upgrade to another platform requiring a different memory standard. Therefore, an SoC with low latency memory built close to the chip and shared across the CPU and GPU is a good solution even if it's not upgradeable. I would definitely like to see more growth in this segment especially given the iGPU performance stagnation of the recent past. It's the one area that no one except Apple has been able to provide a viable solution until Strix Halo.
I don't think it's a good fit for the desktop, but it's great for laptops where upgradeable RAM is now less common. Like Apple, they should create more than one die:
  1. regular monolithic die with memory controllers and PHYs for both LPDDR5 and DDR5. Strix point fits there
  2. Strix Halo
  3. A bigger Strix Halo (double the NPU and GPU) with a 512-bit memory interface and 64 MB last level cache
Options 2 and 3, if priced well, should help them get a bigger chunk of the gaming laptop market.
 
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I know right ? TPU must have skipped a question whilst editing the article, I can't think of another reason to explain why this answer is so disjointed from the straightforward query about the naming scheme.

Heh, I didn’t notice that. Why and why, lol.
 
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Man, what a non-answer.

its reaaaaaally bad TPU has interviewers employed that dont not pursue questions...like what is the point otherwise, just free promotion of no value.


And the follow up is just as a bad

"TechPowerUp: I like it.

David McAfee: It's a good move. Transparency helps consumers understand our products better."


Why did you feel the need to say that you like it....who cares? this is not to be rude but its just unprofessional...
And then David mentions Transparency when he just completely avoided answering BOTH questions?

And again you guys just let that slip as well?

Im sorry but being brutally honest here, this is just painfully weak from TPU.
 
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TechPowerUp: Is RDNA 4 a monolithic design?

David McAfee: We haven't talked about that yet.

What a clueless response... That's why I believe these Q&A sessions rarely provide any valuable insights. o_O
Publicly traded company, they are not allowed to share details like that at will in some interview.
Basically, the most value is to be had asking the why of things that are announced, asking for some more technical details on a product.
It's pretty clear that they are in no position to share details about rdna4, just not a good subject right now.
 
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No point in a interview if it does not provide any meaningful information.
 
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"Adding PCIe lanes has implications for the platform. The transition from AM4 to AM5 was very disruptive. Keeping the platform consistent is a big benefit to end users. Next-generation platforms will consider user builds and lane counts to ensure the right balance of computing power and I/O capabilities for different market segments."

This probably means that new Zen6 CPUs and chipsets will be upgraded. CPU is likely to get extra x4 Gen5 lanes and chipsets too, including the upgrade to chipset link form Gen4 x4 to Gen5 x4. In practice, they could add 8-12 new Gen5 lanes on the platform.

- Zen6 CPU with x32 Gen5 lanes could provide: x16 for GPU, two x4 for NVMe drives, x4 for chipset link and x4 for USB4 controller.
- Promontory chipset could get extra x4 interface and possibly Gen5 upgrade, but this is not necessary if two Gen5 SSDs are already on CPU.
 
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Put an AMD-powered AI model answer questions next time around. As an advertisement. I mean, the boilerplate non-answers aren't going to be much worse, after all.
 
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