Thermaltake 900 case

[Rebootableglitch]

I am looking to do a custom water cooling thing with 2 560 rads in the case I know the fans I want to use and the rads, What I am unsure of is the rest of it, tubing and tubing sizes and what Resivoirs Are compatbile with the case.

Looking for a bit of help/info I would like to use the largest possible tubing and what would I need for it? if i were to use a water blocks for both my gpu and my cpu, do i need some sort of compression thing so it goes from big to small into the waterblocks? and what kinds would you suggest I go with for a kit of stuff to get?

any help would be amazing!!!

 

[kapone32]

Good luck with that. Most Full towers do not have support for 4 140mm fans. Right now the maximum is 420mm. You might need a custom case to get what you want.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

Thermaltake 900 case does 2 560s according to the specs.

 

[Noci]

with this awesome case and building a custom loop, your imagination and/or creativity will be the only limiting factor.

https://www.thermaltake.com/the-tower-900.html

Largest (diameter) acrylic/PET tubing on the pc-watercooling market now is 16mm. But of course you can go much bigger with copper piping if you want, just remember that the fittngs, blocks etc. normally have a 1/4" threaded connection. so tubing with a bigger diameter won't have added value in terms of flowrate. From an aestatic point of view you can just go wild.

As this is already a older case, there are plenty of examples on Youtube and so on you can use as inspiration for your build.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

1/4" threaded connection? so do i need something to convert it from a 16 mm to a 1/4" connection on the pump/rads/water blocks?

do you have a list of stuff I should probably look at? im probably going to go soft tubing for my first tip toe into custom cooling,

I just trying to understand the basics for fittings and what not, I don't really understand what I need for soft tubing or what to look for XD.

Do I need like alot of fittings? fittings being the primary thing?

 

[Noci]

1/4" threaded connection? so do i need something to convert it from a 16 mm to a 1/4" connection on the pump/rads/water blocks?

do you have a list of stuff I should probably look at? im probably going to go soft tubing for my first tip toe into custom cooling,

I just trying to understand the basics for fittings and what not, I don't really understand what I need for soft tubing or what to look for XD.

Do I need like alot of fittings? fittings being the primary thing?

pretty much every radiator, waterblock, pumptop and other phericals have a 1/4"threaded connection.

Do some research first as there is almost unlimited info on the web about this subject.

For example, start Youtube and type: Watercooling beginners guide in the seacrch box. The info you're asking for here is waaay too much to type in a forum post.

And pictures/movies say more than words

 

[ir_cow]

1/4" threaded connection? so do i need something to convert it from a 16 mm to a 1/4" connection on the pump/rads/water blocks?

I'm sorry, but if your asking about 1/4 threads (the standard thread), you are already in over your head. I would start with something smaller in scope, otherwise you might have 1K in parts sitting in a box after you get frustrated and give up.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

I pick up things relatively quickly, I picked up C sharp and XML just by following what other people did and then started writing my own with a great deal of success I might add, I was building computers when i was 12 before all the fancy stuff came into light XD, I just need to know how all the pieces fit together, Rads I understand, Pumps and res I understand the fact that I need water blocks for specific videocards and/or motherboard types/cpu sockets I understand (depending on the type they are) what I don't understand is how all the tubing pieces fit together, I get that certian pieces are needed for hard tubing so you arnt radically needing to bend everything, what I don't understand is how many I need of each piece, what is the standard pieces I need, I got that 1/4 are the size of the holes on the rads and waterblocks and such what I don't understand what connects them all what Connectors do I need? give me a list of stuff you would use in a theroetical standard build and I will work my usual magic and teach myself to do it, I just need to know how many of each piece you would use and brief exsample of what you would attatch them to, Ive tried looking up youtube videos but they arnt very beginniner informotive as which pieces i need more of and which ones i need less of.

 

[Outback Bronze]

tubing and tubing sizes and what Resivoirs Are compatbile

Thats entirely up to you. I did one with 16mm on the gpu then (iirc) 12mm on the CPU. Reservoir's would need to be done in tubes with pumps connected. Thats what I did anyways. Pic attached.

You can be very creative. Its bloody heavy too so look out!

 

[Rebootableglitch]

What pieces did you use for your build?

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Outback Bronze​

Your picture helps me alot, I just need to know what types of connectors you used,

Im assuming those are the fittings I would need inbetween each tube, and if i wanted to dual videocards one inbetween both, but what are the 16mm fittings called you used?

 

[Outback Bronze]

16mm fittings called you used

Yes, 16mm for hardline and 12 or 13mm for the cpu hardline was what fittings I had to purchase. It really depends on what type/size tubing you use. Whatever size tubing you use you need the same size fittings to match.

Im assuming those are the fittings I would need inbetween each tube

Yes, correct.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

Could I have the name of said 16 mm fittings you used and how many? and where they were attatched? Just so i have a better idea of what to look for, theres so many differnt types i don't know exsactly the name of what to look for.

 

[maxfly]

Could I have the name of said 16 mm fittings you used and how many? and where they were attatched? Just so i have a better idea of what to look for, theres so many differnt types i don't know exsactly the name of what to look for.

For soft tubing the largest diameter you can get is 1/2in inside diameter x 3/4in outside diameter OR metric 13mm x 19mm. The COMPRESSION fittings will be listed by the same size as the tubing 1/2x3/4. The size of the part of the fitting that screws into the block, rad, res is called g1/4. Virtually everything will be g1/4 with a tiny percentage being g3/8.

Here are some examples of tubing and fittings from one of the best places to buy gear,
performance-pcs.com

The best soft tubing in my opinion, primochill lrt, color just happens to be what popped up.

PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing - 1/2in. ID X 3/4in. OD - Pearl UV Orange

PrimoFlex ADVANCED LRT Tubing has been designed, formulated and manufactured for todays evolving standards in the PC water cooling industry. Advanced LRT has been carefully formulated to enable it to perform in a wider range of closed loop cooling systems, making it the most compatible water...

www.performance-pcs.com

Fittings, just grabbed these as an example altho they are solid.

Barrow G1/4" Thread 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD Soft Tube Compression Fitting V4 - Black

Standard G1/4" thread with rubber o-ring allows it to screw securely into water cooling components with a tight leak proof seal. Compatible with 1/2"ID x 3/4"OD Soft Tubing.

www.performance-pcs.com

 

[Outback Bronze]

Could I have the name of said 16 mm fittings you used and how many? and where they were attatched? Just so i have a better idea of what to look for, theres so many differnt types i don't know exsactly the name of what to look for.

I'm pretty sure they were 16mm EK Fittings. I was buying 6 packs: EK Quantum Torque 6-Pack HTC 16 - Nickel | PLE Computers These are a newer revision than what I had installed.

The Tubing came with 2x 500mm Pieces: EK HD PETG Tube 12/16mm 500mm (2pcs) | PLE Computers

You can find 1m lengths of Harline depending on the manufacturer, you just need to match up the same fittings with said manufacturer.

 

[Vya Domus]

That case supports one 560mm and one 480mm radiator, this is according to the manufacturers page.

Do no mix "fan support" and "radiator support" they are not the same, just because something will fit 4x140mm fans that does not mean it will support a 560mm radiator. Stick to what the manufacturer says and get a 560mm and 480mm radiator, otherwise you might waste your money.

Also every modern component is going to have a 1/4 thread, that's standard these days (I mean blocks, pumps, reservoirs, etc), the tubes however vary in diameter, you need to get the correct fittings. Stick to soft tubing, I for example went with 16/10mm tubes and because of that I had to use 16/10 compression fittings, mind you fittings are either for soft tubing or hardline. If you use 10/13mm tubes your going to need 10/13mm fittings, etc. You will need 2x fittings for each component, everything has an intake and outlet (at least). I recommend some of those fittings to be 90 degree to make your life easier.

Tube size is not really relevant, I used thicker tubes because I think they look better.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

it supports it 560 ether side, i even have a case with them mounted in it as we speak with 8 fans,

and further proof heres straight from the site you just quoted from

(points to the 2 560 radiators with stars in them)

 

[Vya Domus]

If you say it does then OK, I said that because on their page it also reads :

Left / Right Side:
1 x 480mm , 1 x 560mm

This is strange wording, I interpret this as 1x560mm and 1x480mm

 

[Rebootableglitch]

which is fine i dont really need the hdd cage anyways, so 560 rad works.

also ya i agree thicker tubes do look better, exspecially in a thermal take 900 case the size is huge, heres a huge case and some thin vain type looking tubes XD

I do like your build to though!!! its amazing n_n

So i need 2 fittings for each component, so the 1/4 is the standard so it basicly any fitting with 1/4 will screw in to the 1/4 hole and then compression on the other side is for like hardline or a barb for soft and that is what connects each piece to each piece @Vya Domus ?

also what does the (16/10mm) stand for? for each side of the slash?

oh wait, i read up further so ID and OD stands for inner diameter and outer diameter of the tubing, I assume thats what you mean by 16/10 mm right?

 

[Vya Domus]

So i need 2 fittings for each component, so the 1/4 is the standard so it basicly any fitting with 1/4 will screw in to the 1/4 hole and then compression on the other side is for like hardline or a barb for soft and that is what connects each piece to each piece @Vya Domus ?

Yes, so on one side you'll have a 1/4 thread and on the other whatever you choose to use, be it for soft tubing or hardline. You can have a compression fittings for both soft and hardline, compression fittings is what everyone uses these days, it's not worth looking at anything else.

oh wait, i read up further so ID and OD stands for inner diameter and outer diameter of the tubing, I assume thats what you mean by 16/10 mm right

Yes, again this doesn't really matter, just be sure that everything is the same.

Again to reiterate with my example, I picked up 14x 16/10 compression fittings for soft tubing because I used 16/10 tubes.

2x for GPU block
2x for CPU block
2x for pump/distribution plate combo, you might need 2x for pump and 2xfor reservoir if you choose to have them separately (no real reason to do so).
2x for each of the 4 rads I used

Sorry if the metric/inch gets mixed in, it's just that usually everyone refers to the threads on the components as being 1/4 inch, for the rest I use metric because I am from Europe.

 

[Rebootableglitch]

That actually helps me immensely to figure out what i need to do, i sort of knew about the in and out part of the stuff that only make sence considering hot liquid is pulled away and cooler liquid is pushed in for lack of a better term, i just didn't understand the science behind the types of fittings, and what I need more of, so basic standard fittings are what I need more of cause those are what need to go on each piece of equipment in the custom loop, and then additional pieces like shape pieces that are pre-bent as the go betweens only when needed/wanted in the custom build, with fittings on those as well, thank you so much for your help!!! and everyone else, now i have a fairly good idea how to assemble it n_n.

I am def going to do a soft tubing for my first attempt as this, i don't think i can do hard tubing not without a better general idea of the various bends id need to make.

Also its ok, im not very good with the whole ruler system :/ i know what there called, I just don't have a very good understanding of the inch and metric distances or usages in measurements, its the one thing i was never really good at, XD, probably due to my lack of distance perception i cant judge it very well,but anyways, that actually helps alot, thank you @Vya Domus @Outback Bronze @maxfly for all your help, I sort if freshly knew scrub when it comes to custom water cooling, I know i will excel in it once i understand the basics, but learning the basics from videos with no one on one interaction where i can ask questions is my achilies heel saddly, I need to ask questions XD

i do have one more question, I saw video of someone using... quick disconnects? would the same science apply to those as well? or do they have there own compresson fittings for the type of tubing? was thinking of getting installing 4 of them 2 on each resiviour so when it comes time to change the liquid i can quick disconnect one and run the liquid through all into the rez dump and replace.

 

[maxfly]

Glad to help

QDCs have the same measurements. If you are using 1/2in x 3/4in tubing you only need to match the qdc to your tubing. You will need a male and female part to complete the connection. Koolance in my experience make the most reliable QDCs but they aren't cheap.

Edit- as an aside, its a good idea to familiarize yourself with the metric size of the tubing you plan on going with. As some manufacturers list their parts in one but not both (standard vs metric). It will keep from getting things confused.

 

[Outback Bronze]

I am def going to do a soft tubing for my first attempt

Yes agreed. This is how I first started (there was no hardline around anyways) and the beauty of soft tube is you can change over a CPU piece of cake, hardline a little more involving unless you can get quick disconnects involved but even, they are still mainly for soft tube. Good luck. It's an awesome feeling once you get the gist of it!

 

[Rebootableglitch]

Ah I gotcha, i probably get koolance QDCs even if there a bit more exp they will be worth it in the end, for flushing the tubing, Also what sort of Pump/rez combo did you use for your build @Outback Bronze? I am not sure what sort of res are comp with the 900 case,

Also for quick ref

Amazon.ca

and

Amazon.ca

as exsamples of what i need to get for the QDC.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Also what sort of Pump/rez combo did you use for your build

I honestly can't remember. They were D5's with a 270ml res so you would want something like this:

EK Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB​

 

[bonehead123]

with this awesome case and building a custom loop, your imagination and/or creativity will be the only limiting factor.

Thermaltake 900 case does 2 560s according to the specs.

^^THIS^^

Although I only used AIO parts, I had my TT900 set up with 4x 560mm setups, 1 on each side, 1 in the back, plus one in the front, which was built by into a custom configuration by me using some spare parts and lots of splicing/modding and cutting to get it all to run together....