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hola99nog

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hi everyone wantedto share my settings and my log with throttlestop have just entered this world so forgive me for being a noob here's above my setting during normal use and below my setting during gaming with cpu cache at -130. also attached a log during normal use and during gaming. major issue is my fps drops during gaming and in the limits window few thins as you can see showing yellow or red.
any help to understand the problem appriciated.
Specs:
acer Aspire 7 A715-75G-50SA Gaming Laptop
Core i5 9th Gen -
8x2 GB RAM/512 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650/60 Hz)





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Here's Limits during gaming:


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First things first: did you clean your laptop insides recently - like the fans in particular and replying thermal paste (taking into account the release of this model - it's probably dried out)? That's a core step - before trying to solve thermal issues on a software level.

The slow-downs they're indeed caused by throttling - both power and temperature throttling. Acer Aspire has a really poor cooling design. Unless you strip its case and make/use custom cooling (easier said than done - for most people) - those Turbo Ratios are way to high (your CPU will thermal throttle - without even reaching 4 Ghz). Personally, i would limit the Turbo Ratios to max 3 Ghz.

Power Wise - the IccMax is to low, setting it to max (255.75) - is the most common recommendation to solve some of the power throttling issue. Tho, tweaking some of the settings from TPL can help as well (lock the MMO for start). As mentioned above - this CPU was released couple of years ago - which actually works in your favor - since the optimal setting for this model were overly debated even on the ThrottleStop forum. Here, browse some of this topics - since they're all filled with advises - even repeated over and over again, since every user starts a new topic - asking the same thing over and over again. :ohwell: I take it, most of those didn't know how to use the search function - so here...


Cheers.
 

unclewebb

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@hola99nog
If you want to undervolt the Intel GPU you also have to undervolt the iGPU Unslice the same amount. It is not important to undervolt the Intel GPU if you have a Nvidia GPU so I leave the Intel GPU and iGPU Unslice at +0.0000.

Post a screenshot of the Options window. Is their a lock icon near the PROCHOT Offset setting? Acer is using an offset of 13 so your CPU starts thermal throttling way too soon. The Intel default is zero. If this setting is locked, there is nothing you can do about it. If this setting is not locked, reduce the PROCHOT Offset value to about 3. That will increase the thermal throttling temperature up to 97°C instead of only 87°C.

Clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen.

Post a picture of the TPL window so I can see your power limit settings.
 

hola99nog

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@hola99nog
If you want to undervolt the Intel GPU you also have to undervolt the iGPU Unslice the same amount. It is not important to undervolt the Intel GPU if you have a Nvidia GPU so I leave the Intel GPU and iGPU Unslice at +0.0000.

Post a screenshot of the Options window. Is their a lock icon near the PROCHOT Offset setting? Acer is using an offset of 13 so your CPU starts thermal throttling way too soon. The Intel default is zero. If this setting is locked, there is nothing you can do about it. If this setting is not locked, reduce the PROCHOT Offset value to about 3. That will increase the thermal throttling temperature up to 97°C instead of only 87°C.

Clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen.

Post a picture of the TPL window so I can see your power limit settings.
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hi, reduced it to 3 it was 13 as you said thanks
also applied igpu and gpu slide at 0

First things first: did you clean your laptop insides recently - like the fans in particular and replying thermal paste (taking into account the release of this model - it's probably dried out)? That's a core step - before trying to solve thermal issues on a software level.

The slow-downs they're indeed caused by throttling - both power and temperature throttling. Acer Aspire has a really poor cooling design. Unless you strip its case and make/use custom cooling (easier said than done - for most people) - those Turbo Ratios are way to high (your CPU will thermal throttle - without even reaching 4 Ghz). Personally, i would limit the Turbo Ratios to max 3 Ghz.

Power Wise - the IccMax is to low, setting it to max (255.75) - is the most common recommendation to solve some of the power throttling issue. Tho, tweaking some of the settings from TPL can help as well (lock the MMO for start). As mentioned above - this CPU was released couple of years ago - which actually works in your favor - since the optimal setting for this model were overly debated even on the ThrottleStop forum. Here, browse some of this topics - since they're all filled with advises - even repeated over and over again, since every user starts a new topic - asking the same thing over and over again. :ohwell: I take it, most of those didn't know how to use the search function - so here...


Cheers.
last time i cleaned was one year ago but never replaced thermal paste will get some knowledge on how to do it. icc max to 255.75 adn turbo ratios to 30 thanks!

@hola99nog
If you want to undervolt the Intel GPU you also have to undervolt the iGPU Unslice the same amount. It is not important to undervolt the Intel GPU if you have a Nvidia GPU so I leave the Intel GPU and iGPU Unslice at +0.0000.

Post a screenshot of the Options window. Is their a lock icon near the PROCHOT Offset setting? Acer is using an offset of 13 so your CPU starts thermal throttling way too soon. The Intel default is zero. If this setting is locked, there is nothing you can do about it. If this setting is not locked, reduce the PROCHOT Offset value to about 3. That will increase the thermal throttling temperature up to 97°C instead of only 87°C.

Clear the BD PROCHOT box on the main screen.

Post a picture of the TPL window so I can see your power limit settings.
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unclewebb

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reduced it to 3 it was 13
The lock icon in your picture means the PROCHOT Offset register is locked by the BIOS. You cannot change a locked setting. This can only be changed when you do not see a lock icon. Trying to change PROCHOT Offset to 3 will not do anything if this register is showing that it is locked.

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hola99nog

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The lock icon in your picture means the PROCHOT Offset register is locked by the BIOS. You cannot change a locked setting. This can only be changed when you do not see a lock icon. Trying to change PROCHOT Offset to 3 will not do anything if this register is showing that it is locked.

View attachment 298188oh okay sorry nothing to do it about it then sadly
 

unclewebb

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Acer tends to lock PROCHOT Offset on many of their laptops. This setting causes premature thermal throttling. Bad design by Acer.
 
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