Tom's Hardware Edioter-in-chief's stance on RTX 20 Series : JUST BUY IT

chaosmassive · Aug 25, 2018

here
have a good laugh :roll:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html

GN's reaction

REMEMBER : "THE MORE YOU BUY, THE MORE YOU SAVE"

DeathtoGnomes · Aug 25, 2018

Never seen Steve lose his mind like that, totally hilarious!! :laugh:

Xzibit · Aug 25, 2018

chaosmassive said:
REMEMBER : "THE MORE YOU BUY, THE MORE YOU SAVE"

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

DeathtoGnomes said:
Never seen Steve lose his mind like that, totally hilarious!!

He's usually verbose and over my head (ahem.. read "boring".. I'm mostly a normie). This is the first I've been entertained.

delshay · Aug 25, 2018

He has some strong valid points & I tend to agree with him. I don't like the swearing at the start of the video, leave this out.

Totally · Aug 25, 2018

I wonder how big of a cheque nvidia is cutting him? Also is going to be an akward Monday at Tom's, at least the article is in the opinion section.

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

For some reason, this card is giving me 90s nostalgia.. where sleaziness in reviews and marketing tactics were a bit more shameless.

PerfectWave · Aug 25, 2018

tomhardware is well known for being listed in payroll of nvidia company nothing new

kastriot · Aug 25, 2018

PerfectWave said:
tomhardware is well known for being listed in payroll of nvidia company nothing new

And add that he personaly doesn't know shit about hardware same as Hilbert from guru3d..

ShurikN · Aug 25, 2018

I didn't think anyone could shill harder than Linus Sebastian, but Toms sets a new high.

Tsukiyomi91 · Aug 25, 2018

uh... whut?

Tomshardware editor in chief saying "just buy it" when he haven't even bench the cards?? oh my....

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

Tsukiyomi91 said:
uh... whut? Tomshardware editor in chief saying "just buy it" when he haven't even bench the cards?? oh my....

Kind of sad what it says on how they think of their readers and gamers in general. Like a bunch of fools in a rat race. With too much disposable income for their own good.

Although there might be some truth to it.

Joss · Aug 25, 2018

Puke article from Tom's, excellent video from GN.

StrayKAT said:
He's usually verbose and over my head

His reasoning is clear, his speech is articulate.

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

Joss said:
Puke article from Tom's, excellent video from GN.

His reasoning is clear, his speech is articulate.

Oh it is.. not knocking him so much as I am being self-deprecating and knocking myself. His vids are usually too long for what I need.

Fluffmeister · Aug 25, 2018

The world and their mother have reaction videos these days.

Recus · Aug 25, 2018

chaosmassive said:
REMEMBER : "THE MORE YOU BUY, THE MORE YOU SAVE"

Xzibit said:

And it's true. Stop pulling words out of context.

And I can't understand why people can't believe that RTX 2000 will be faster than GTX 1000 in non ray tracing games. Pascal was Maxwell on 16nm and was faster, Turing is brand new architecture.

Also noticed another Tom's Hardware article "Why You Shouldn’t Buy Nvidia’s RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards (Yet)". Looks like they just wanted to troll and succeeded.

rtwjunkie · Aug 25, 2018

One of the best GN vids I have seen in a long while!!

Vya Domus · Aug 25, 2018

Recus said:
And I can't understand why people can't believe that RTX 2000 will be faster than GTX 1000 in non ray tracing games.

Man, you should work for marketing at Nvidia, your claims are as vague and meaningless as theirs.

Recus said:
Also noticed another Tom's Hardware article "Why You Shouldn’t Buy Nvidia’s RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards (Yet)".

Written by a different editor a day prior, you can spin in whichever way you want, it was a load of braindead bullshit.

chaosmassive · Aug 25, 2018

Recus said:
And I can't understand why people can't believe that RTX 2000 will be faster than GTX 1000 in non ray tracing games. Pascal was Maxwell on 16nm and was faster, Turing is brand new architecture

you're totally missing the point, sure performance-wise Turing will be faster than Pascal
the issue is tom's not even bench the card yet, but dishing out articles to urge the reader to go ahead (PRE-ORDER, mind you) on product that we dont know the performance numbers yet
just like Steve said in the video, it's just like ignoring what tech site (TPU in this case) been doing all these years, and go buy it just because of some vague numbers from slide deck that released by marketing team (wow, right?)

HD64G · Aug 25, 2018

Recus said:
And it's true. Stop pulling words out of context.

And I can't understand why people can't believe that RTX 2000 will be faster than GTX 1000 in non ray tracing games. Pascal was Maxwell on 16nm and was faster, Turing is brand new architecture.

Also noticed another Tom's Hardware article "Why You Shouldn’t Buy Nvidia’s RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards (Yet)". Looks like they just wanted to troll and succeeded.

If price in some tier was same or better (1070-2070,1080-2080,1080Ti-2080Ti) I would totally agree with you. But for those prices and not any proof of the 20X0 series performance but having marketing slides without the info needed into them? Think again...

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

Fluffmeister said:
The world and their mother have reaction videos these days.

Heh.. I get a kick out of watching hip hop dudes watch Metallica and Slayer vids.

Frick · Aug 25, 2018

Recus said:
And it's true. Stop pulling words out of context.

You might spend less per X product/produce, but you can never, ever save while buying things, unless someone gives you more money for youe purchase than you spent. It's a common thing in marketing: take 3, pay for 2! Even if you really need just one, or more commonly none, you're tempted to buy it anyway. And people do buy it. If you were about to pay two anyway you get more than you otherwise would have, but you never save anything.

Vayra86 · Aug 25, 2018

Now we know why the prices are jacked up: All those bags of money Nvidia needs to buy the dev time, and the tech "press" needs to get paid somehow. Guess what: we're now paying for our own fake news !

Recus said:
And it's true. Stop pulling words out of context.

And I can't understand why people can't believe that RTX 2000 will be faster than GTX 1000 in non ray tracing games. Pascal was Maxwell on 16nm and was faster, Turing is brand new architecture.

Also noticed another Tom's Hardware article "Why You Shouldn’t Buy Nvidia’s RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards (Yet)". Looks like they just wanted to troll and succeeded.

Are you genuinely this gullible? You should get help man

Vya Domus · Aug 25, 2018

Vayra86 said:
Now we know why the prices are jacked up: All those bags of money Nvidia needs to buy the dev time, and the tech "press" needs to get paid somehow. Guess what: we're now paying for our own fake news !

"Cost of progress", some would say. Just wait it will get better !

StrayKAT · Aug 25, 2018

Seems like such a waste of money then. They're pretty secure in the PC gaming market. Why be so petty?

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Tom's Hardware Edioter-in-chief's stance on RTX 20 Series : JUST BUY IT

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