Turbo boost on in a overclock?

[diogoBRRN]

Guys, i have one question, if i have one X cpu(Intel) which have a base clock 3.5Ghz and have a turbo boost 5.0Ghz.
Imagine that I overclock base clock to 4.4Ghz, Knowing that one dogma of overclocking is disable turbo boost, in this case that I said, can i let the turbo boost on? because turn off It will let single-thread tasks worse and the overclocking(4.4Ghz) don't pass the 5.0Ghz turbo.
Or the turbo boost can let the overclocking a little instable?

 

[eidairaman1]

Best oc is to manually do it, turbo is laziness and can be unstable

 

[diogoBRRN]

But in this specific case, turn off the turbo I would lose single-thread performance, right?

 

[looniam]

Guys, i have one question, if i have one X cpu(Intel) which have a base clock 3.5Ghz and have a turbo boost 5.0Ghz.
Imagine that I overclock base clock to 4.4Ghz, Knowing that one dogma of overclocking is disable turbo boost, in this case that I said, can i let the turbo boost on? because turn off It will let single-thread tasks worse and the overclocking(4.4Ghz) don't pass the 5.0Ghz turbo.
Or the turbo boost can let the overclocking a little instable?

you're giving yourself a problem that isn't there. that 3.5Ghz "base clock" is a worst case scenario (heat!)

though it would help to know what chip and motherboard - options (that are better) change w/time but fwiw i have a i7 11700K with everything on default (turbo and C-strates left alone along w/windows power plan (yes i have become lazy) base clock is suppose to be 3.6 but i never see it.

having power savings and C-states enabled; one core may drop to 800Mhz when idling but mostly nothing goes below 4.6Ghz (the all core boost speed).

 

[chrcoluk]

I see no advantage in raising base clock if you still use turbo as well, if load is high enough then cpu will increase clock to turbo if needed. You can also force a cpu to stay in turbo all the time with minor tweaks to windows power plan.

 

[GerKNG]

then overclock it to the turbo boost all core

 

[mstenholm]

then overclock it to the turbo boost all core

And add 50W in idle, at least

 

[looniam]

And add 50W in idle, at least

which is a small sacrifice to pay for beating someone by 1 point benchmarking.

 

[Arctucas]

And add 50W in idle, at least

What CPU is that?

 

[mstenholm]

F..k In my mind we were talking about a 11700K but that was an other discussion. The number, for that one, is here https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-11700kf/21.html. Ups.

 

[GerKNG]

And add 50W in idle, at least

oh no! 50W

 

[mstenholm]

oh no! 50W

I was waiting for that reaction

 

[Arctucas]

Hmm ...

Checking HWiNFO, my 9900K, idling at 5000MHz all-cores locked and HT on, bouncing between 23W and 25W.

 

[mstenholm]

Hmm ...

Checking HWiNFO, my 9900K, idling at 5000MHz all-cores locked and HT on, bouncing between 23W and 25W.

It seems like something broke between 9900K and 10900K in terms of power consumption with a OC at idle. The full load was high back then, already there

 

[looniam]

It seems like something broke between 9900K and 10900K in terms of power consumption with a OC at idle. The full load was high back then, already there

not sure broke is the right word, you are comparing 8c/16t to 10c/20t not to mention different boost algorithms. yeah i know OCing . .

 

[diogoBRRN]

I see no advantage in raising base clock if you still use turbo as well, if load is high enough then cpu will increase clock to turbo if needed. You can also force a cpu to stay in turbo all the time with minor tweaks to windows power plan.

But turbo is just in one or two cores, so the reason to overclock base clock should be to increase multicore performance.

 

[mstenholm]

not sure broke is the right word, you are comparing 8c/16t to 10c/20t not to mention different boost algorithms. yeah i know OCing . .

First of, OP sorry that I interupted an otherwise good conversion, secondly I made a mistake with the CPUs and I will be more than happy to leave at that and stay out of futher Intel OC discussions on which I know little.

 

[The red spirit]

Just raise PL1, way easier, same result.

 

[looniam]

First of, OP sorry that I interupted an otherwise good conversion, secondly I made a mistake with the CPUs and I will be more than happy to leave at that and stay out of futher Intel OC discussions on which I know little.

dude, you're fine. my criticism was the comparison, not you or your posts. my bad, carry on.

 

[chrcoluk]

But turbo is just in one or two cores, so the reason to overclock base clock should be to increase multicore performance.

No it isnt, there is an all core turbo clock, and then different levels of turbo that gradually decrease the cores, it isnt just the last bit of clock on 1/2 cores.

 

[unclewebb]

Imagine that I overclock base clock to 4.4Ghz

All Intel Core i CPUs built since 2008 do not allow you to overclock the base clock multiplier. The only way to run a multiplier higher than the base multiplier is by enabling turbo boost within the CPU.

Some motherboards (Gigabyte) might have some misleading bios options. If they give you an option to disable turbo boost and run a higher base clock multiplier, what they are really doing in the background before you boot up is they enable turbo boost. That is how Intel Core i CPUs work.

Use the Intel Ark site if you want to know what the base multiplier is for your CPU. That number is fixed by Intel. It cannot be changed.

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