Unusual Ping spike problem to router

Mussels · Jun 5, 2016

Before people jump in with the simple solutions, please read the next few notes carefully.
I was at a LAN when we first noticed this as i was stuck on wifi hosting a game and we got severe rubber banding every 30 seconds or so.

*The problem is on my primary desktop - the OC'd i5. Pings are <1ms to the router when wired.
*This desktop on multipe USB wifi dongles, has erratic ping spikes.

*My laptop, literally sitting on top of my desktop *WITH THE SAME USB ADAPTORS AND DRIVERS* has no such issues. <1ms on the same networks - so it must be a setting or something on the desktop PC.

*We've tried three different routers, N300, N600 and AC3200. It's not a router problem.
*I have tried this at two houses 15KM apart to rule out any issues with third party interference.
*2.4Ghz and 5Ghz show the same results
*Pings spike ever 15-30 seconds, anywhere from 10ms to 800ms

Any ideas on where to start, to figure out why my desktop and laptop behave differently? Both are on windows 10

flmatter · Jun 5, 2016

usb port issues? I know I sound stupid asking this but are your usb drivers up to date and firmware too? If you have tried multiple adapters on your desktop and all act the same way then I am apt to look at mobo/usb ports for the problem. Especially when the laptop has no issues with same adapters. Did you try all the usb ports on the desktop? Just asking....

maybe an issue with adapter being used on usb 3.0?

Ferrum Master · Jun 5, 2016

Try Latency mon, maybe it actually is something else in the system...

I just had to fight unusual bug in my system using latest 14352 build. Something has broken nvidia overcloking, as you move the voltage slider in any of OC programs, during 3D after few minuts... got a pop in and loose sound and stutter fest starts also, FPS tanks. It took hours finding that out the cause... :banghead:

silentbogo · Jun 5, 2016

Which game? Not TF2 by any chance?

Mussels · Jun 5, 2016

hopefully this helps:

Frick · Jun 5, 2016

What about safe mode?

Ferrum Master · Jun 5, 2016

Well something really looks bad.

Drivers. If on laptop it works, it doesn't mean on other HW config it will behave the same.

Even your mouse... Well, Update sound and LAN drivers. Cut off all file sharing features leaving tcpv4, at least for debugging.

My number one crap in the system causing latency is nvidia driver. They are horrid lately in that terms.

Mussels · Jun 5, 2016

and now without any real changes except deleting files off my HDD, i cant reproduce the high pings :/

Ferrum Master · Jun 5, 2016

Mussels said:
and now without any real changes except deleting files off my HDD, i cant reproduce the high pings :/

Well there were all sorts of f* around drivers. Like Samsung nvme driver screwing all USB3 speeds. Also some nvidia drivers also couldn't live aside some asmedia drivers. I just actually did something else. I plugged my razer device to ASMEDIA USB3 and my latency went down for USBPORT.sys, and Asmedia sys driver didn 't spike up. It could be the polling rate. It could be even your DVD drive being way too chatty.

Okay I also have a USB wifi dongle... will give a shot. And yes, there is some sort of crap going on with them.

DeathtoGnomes · Jun 13, 2016

not to hijack the thread but thanks for the latency mon to test with.

I have a high ISR in storport.sys (MS).

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Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
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Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Unusual Ping spike problem to router

Mussels

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