Varmilo Muse65 HE Hall Effect Keyboard

[VSG]

Varmilo enters the magnetic switch keyboard market with the Victory and Muse keyboard lines. Today we examine the Muse65 HE, a 65% keyboard using Gateron magnetic switches and coming in five attractive themes to choose from. It features extensive software and onboard controls, including tuning the magnetic switches to interest gamers and keyboard enthusiasts.

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[SN2716057]

Keycap legends are opaque

When will they learn?

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

I get tired of keyboard companies just assuming everyone wants linear switches. If that is what you like, please abstain from getting personally offended and lashing out.

 

[bonehead123]

When will they learn?

"History teaches us that history teaches us nothing " - Gen. G.S. Patton

A) Fuggily/stupid backgroined patterns = YUK, this makes it look like you forgot to peel off a protective plastic film IMHO
B) What's the point of STILL connecting with a USB-A to C cable ? just make it one or the other....it's not gonna matter, as keebs don't need the extra bandwidth of USB-C anyways...
C) Now, just make it full sized AND wireless, and it may worthy of a 2nd look at some point...otherwise they can keep it

 

[Chrispy_]

I get tired of keyboard companies just assuming everyone wants linear switches. If that is what you like, please abstain from getting personally offended and lashing out.

Yeah, linear switches aren't for me and I don't understand the point of them.

• To type fast I need some tactile feedback to know 100% that I'm mashing the keys at speed in the correct order and I'm also trying to avoid bottoming out the keys for prolonged typing sessions. I cannot do that on linear keyboards as the only feedback you have that the key has actuated is a character appearing on screen which entails several tens of milisseconds of electronic and digital (both meanings of the word) delay. You're basically forced to bottom out the key travel which is dumb because at that point you've sailed past the actuation point, and moved the key 2-3x further than you needed to. That adds travel delay, contributes to fatigue, and slows down repeat letters - to name just a few of the issues.
• To game, the critical aspect is actuation delay, Pre-activation travel is worthless, and surplus travel after actuation if of zero benefit whatsoever. Short-travel switches win the day here and whether they're tactile or not is completely irrelevant to me.

This is just my opinion, but linear switches don't work for typing or gaming. They're an objectively inferior solution and a subjectively jarring experience that I've failed to like despite buying twice and sinking hundreds of hours into.

 

[Hakker]

"History teaches us that history teaches us nothing " - Gen. G.S. Patton

A) Fuggily/stupid backgroined patterns = YUK, this makes it look like you forgot to peel off a protective plastic film IMHO
B) What's the point of STILL connecting with a USB-A to C cable ? just make it one or the other....it's not gonna matter, as keebs don't need the extra bandwidth of USB-C anyways...
C) Now, just make it full sized AND wireless, and it may worthy of a 2nd look at some point...otherwise they can keep it

Keyboard is USB-C however what do you have on your computer the most still.... right USB-A If you're lucky you have 2 USB-C ports. Many more just 1 , but I still think most don't even have a USB-C port.
I don't need full size. I don't use the numpad. but I do need my F keys so my bare minimum is 75%

 

[Sithaer]

A) Fuggily/stupid backgroined patterns = YUK, this makes it look like you forgot to peel off a protective plastic film IMHO

Yup, it looks like air bubbles stuck under a plastic peel which bothers me to no end. 'I'm the kind of a person who peels off every single protective plastic right away when I buy something new '

I don't need full size. I don't use the numpad. but I do need my F keys so my bare minimum is 75%

Same here, 75% is the lowest I'm willing to go for my daily use + I kinda prefer the big Enter key since thats the 'standard' in my country and what I'm used to.

I do like the color scheme of the keyboard tho so at least theres that. 'main reason why I even checked out the review'

 

[SN2716057]

"History teaches us that history teaches us nothing " - Gen. G.S. Patton

A) Fuggily/stupid backgroined patterns = YUK, this makes it look like you forgot to peel off a protective plastic film IMHO
B) What's the point of STILL connecting with a USB-A to C cable ? just make it one or the other....it's not gonna matter, as keebs don't need the extra bandwidth of USB-C anyways...
C) Now, just make it full sized AND wireless, and it may worthy of a 2nd look at some point...otherwise they can keep it

They should offer in various sizes, with various keycaps (opaque AND translucent), and various switches. As for wired, honestly idgaf

 

[Synthwave]

I get tired of keyboard companies just assuming everyone wants linear switches. If that is what you like, please abstain from getting personally offended and lashing out.

Bro, you can literally build or buy anything. The market is a few orders of magnitude deeper than the mainstream manufacturers' portfolios.

tl;dr: Instead of being offended and lashing out, learn about your options, which are basically almost endless.

 

[Blaeza]

I'm only here because it said "Hall Effect"...

 

[Synthwave]

Yeah, linear switches aren't for me and I don't understand the point of them.

• To type fast I need some tactile feedback to know 100% that I'm mashing the keys at speed in the correct order and I'm also trying to avoid bottoming out the keys for prolonged typing sessions. I cannot do that on linear keyboards as the only feedback you have that the key has actuated is a character appearing on screen which entails several tens of milisseconds of electronic and digital (both meanings of the word) delay. You're basically forced to bottom out the key travel which is dumb because at that point you've sailed past the actuation point, and moved the key 2-3x further than you needed to. That adds travel delay, contributes to fatigue, and slows down repeat letters - to name just a few of the issues.
• To game, the critical aspect is actuation delay, Pre-activation travel is worthless, and surplus travel after actuation if of zero benefit whatsoever. Short-travel switches win the day here and whether they're tactile or not is completely irrelevant to me.

This is just my opinion, but linear switches don't work for typing or gaming. They're an objectively inferior solution and a subjectively jarring experience that I've failed to like despite buying twice and sinking hundreds of hours into.

They are MUCH MUCH better for gaming than tactile or clicky switch-es, especially the switches with shorter key travel and higher actuation point, as you said. Also less finger fatigue. This is a highly subjective issue, but objectively, they are better. As for typing...again, it's totally subjective. A good, highly tactile switch can be more precise, but you can also work really nicely with featherweight linears. It's completely personal.

The only thing better than them for gayming are HE switches tho. Just watch some videos what they can do in an FPS game. It's pretty sick, and no other switch type can come even close.