Which graphics card should I choose?

[NorinRadd]

Friends, I'm building a system that will allow me to play games at 2K resolution with ultra settings. I'm very confused, so I wanted to ask for help.



On one hand, I'm considering building a system myself and purchasing a used 3080 Ti for around 35,000 TL (900 USD). On the other hand, the RTX 5060 Ti graphics card is confusing me. Thanks to MFG and DLSS, it matches or even outperforms the 3080 Ti, but it still can't provide the raw power I want right now, so I don't think it will be able to do so in 3-4 years either.



On the other hand, there's also the idea of purchasing a pre-built system with the 7800 XT. Which one would you choose, or is there a system you'd say, “If I were you, I'd choose this case”?

 

[Macro Device]

Nine C-notes for a 3080 Ti is pure madness. I'm lucky to be outside Turkey, that's for sure.

For maxed out 1440p neither of these GPUs will do. Perfectly playable with some settings turned down or off (such as ray tracing, shadows, and screen space reflections).

Check on the RTX 3080 prices. The non-Ti version that is. Or... let's do it that way. List prices for:

• 3080
• 3080 12 GB
• 4070
• 4070 Super
• 4070 Ti
• 5070
• 6800 XT
• 6900 XT
• 7800 XT

This will make life easier for us.

 

[NorinRadd]

Nine C-notes for a 3080 Ti is pure madness. I'm lucky to be outside Turkey, that's for sure.

For maxed out 1440p neither of these GPUs will do. Perfectly playable with some settings turned down or off (such as ray tracing, shadows, and screen space reflections).

Check on the RTX 3080 prices. The non-Ti version that is. Or... let's do it that way. List prices for:

• 3080
• 3080 12 GB
• 4070
• 4070 Super
• 4070 Ti
• 5070
• 6800 XT
• 6900 XT
• 7800 XT

This will make life easier for us.

The RTX 3080 Ti offers the best price-performance ratio among them. Prices in Turkey are ridiculous. Currently, only the 5000 series is available as a new product. The RTX 4070 costs 20,000 TL (500 USD), and this is the second-hand price. I think the 3080 Ti is the most powerful card among them in terms of raw power or with DLSS. However, it is the same price as the 7800xt, but I know that the 3080ti is more powerful in terms of raw power. What is important to me is that it can run all games that will be released in the next 3-4 years at 2k resolution at 60fps and above. Preferably with high settings.

 

[Onasi]

@NorinRadd
Split the difference and try finding a 4070 Super. It will be roughly in the wheelhouse of the 3080Ti, but it won’t be a hot and power hungry abomination. You also get frame gen, if that’s of interest. I would not get anything Ampere in 2025, not worth it.
Oh, and you aren’t getting anything that will run 1440p at 60 and above for 4 years unless we are talking 5090. Not with the state of games coming out. Compromises would have to be made. Though DLSS will help quite a bit.

 

[Macro Device]

The RTX 4070 costs 20,000 TL (500 USD)

A whole lot better value than a 9C 3080 Ti. Might be slower but I'll be damned, 5C for 4070 is almost reasonable, whereas 9C for 3080 Ti is twice too much.

 

[NorinRadd]

@NorinRadd
Split the difference and try finding a 4070 Super. It will be roughly in the wheelhouse of the 3080Ti, but it won’t be a hot and power hungry abomination. You also get frame gen, if that’s of interest. I would not get anything Ampere in 2025, not worth it.
Oh, and you aren’t getting anything that will run 1440p at 60 and above for 4 years unless we are talking 5090. Not with the state of games coming out. Compromises would have to be made. Though DLSS will help quite a bit.

There is a significant price difference. The 3080ti costs 15,000 TL (383 USD), while the 4070s costs 21,000 TL (536 USD). I really wanted to buy the 4070, but due to the price difference, I looked for another alternative, which was the 3080ti. Actually, what do you think about the 5060Tİ 16 GB?

 

[Chrispy_]

Don't spend that much money on a used GPU that was knowingly abused by Cryptominers, that runs very hot GDDR6X, and are easily damaged when the VRAM thermal pads aren't replaced after about 2 years of mining. Even if they're good value, they're extremely power-hungry cards - many popular AIB models using 400W+, and even the restricted/limited 3080Ti FE is still using 350W to deliver the performance of a modern 200W card.

Unless you 100% trust that the card came from a gamer who used it only for gaming and bought it new, avoid the entire 30-series unless it's explicitly marked as LHR (non-mining) model.

50-series production replaced 40-series production, there is no overlap and almost no old stock of 40-series cards. The 50-series are priced better than the 40-series anyway at every single tier, making the 40-series utterly redundant in every way. The lack of 40-series supply means you're extremely unlikely to find good "clearance" deals on older 40-series cards.

IMO wait for the 9060XT reviews later today, or look at the 5060Ti 16GB, 5070, 9070, (and even the 7800XT if you don't care about raytracing or CUDA support at all).

 

[NorinRadd]

Don't spend that much money on a used GPU that was knowingly abused by Cryptominers, that runs very hot GDDR6X, and are easily damaged when the VRAM thermal pads aren't replaced after about 2 years of mining. Even if they're good value, they're extremely power-hungry cards - many popular AIB models using 400W+, and even the restricted/limited 3080Ti FE is still using 350W to deliver the performance of a modern 200W card.

Unless you 100% trust that the card came from a gamer who used it only for gaming and bought it new, avoid the entire 30-series unless it's explicitly marked as LHR (non-mining) model.

50-series production replaced 40-series production, there is no overlap and almost no old stock of 40-series cards. The 50-series are priced better than the 40-series anyway at every single tier, making the 40-series utterly redundant in every way. The lack of 40-series supply means you're extremely unlikely to find good "clearance" deals on older 40-series cards.

IMO wait for the 9060XT reviews later today, or look at the 5060Ti 16GB, 5070, 9070, (and even the 7800XT if you don't care about raytracing or CUDA support at all).

Actually, I'm very confused. The price of the 3080ti system I'm going to buy is 37,000 TL (950 USD). However, ready-made systems are cheaper in Turkey. There are systems with 5060 Ti and 7800 XT graphics cards for the same price. But the only question in my mind is whether these cards can match the performance of the 3080 Ti. And the 3080 Ti I plan to buy was likely not used for mining. The card operates at 69 degrees.

 

[Macro Device]

You're confusing us. Is this a single 3080 Ti for 900 bucks or is it a PC with a 3080 Ti for 900 bucks? If the former then screw that, it's insanely bad value. If the latter then name the rest of the PC components. It could be an anemic Pentium Prescott for a CPU for all we know.

 

[Onasi]

There is a significant price difference. The 3080ti costs 15,000 TL (383 USD), while the 4070s costs 21,000 TL (536 USD). I really wanted to buy the 4070, but due to the price difference, I looked for another alternative, which was the 3080ti.

As @Chrispy_ mentioned, second hand Ampere is... questionable. I was going by your new 900 dollar price.

Actually, what do you think about the 5060Tİ 16 GB?

Memes aside, it's a decent card. Overpriced for what it is, but what isn't these days. Would have been more questionable if the stock of 5070 was better and/or said 5070s actually went for close to MSRP, but that isn't the case, so here we are. In fact, I would argue that the 5060Ti and the 5070Ti are currently the two best positioned cards NV have. Well, those and the base 5060 for 1080p gaming.

 

[Chrispy_]

Actually, I'm very confused. The price of the 3080ti system I'm going to buy is 37,000 TL (950 USD). However, ready-made systems are cheaper in Turkey. There are systems with 5060 Ti and 7800 XT graphics cards for the same price. But the only question in my mind is whether these cards can match the performance of the 3080 Ti. And the 3080 Ti I plan to buy was likely not used for mining. The card operates at 69 degrees.

So the 7800XT is about $450, the 5070 and 9070 are about $575. If you're buying a system with a used 3080Ti in it, how robust in the warranty because you WILL need it. They are 4-year old cards that run to within an inch of their life and need careful maintenance with thermal pads, even more so if they were used for mining, and most of them WERE used for mining.

How much are import taxes from another country?

Also, when you say 2K, what do you mean?
2K isn't a PC resolution, there's 1080p (not quite 2K) 1440p (2.5K) and 2160p (not quite 4K but everyone just calls it 4K anyway).

 

[NorinRadd]

As @Chrispy_ mentioned, second hand Ampere is... questionable. I was going by your new 900 dollar price.


Memes aside, it's a decent card. Overpriced for what it is, but what isn't these days. Would have been more questionable if the stock of 5070 was better and/or said 5070s actually went for close to MSRP, but that isn't the case, so here we are. In fact, I would argue that the 5060Ti and the 5070Ti are currently the two best positioned cards NV have. Well, those and the base 5060 for 1080p gaming.

You're confusing us. Is this a single 3080 Ti for 900 bucks or is it a PC with a 3080 Ti for 900 bucks? If the former then screw that, it's insanely bad value. If the latter then name the rest of the PC components. It could be an anemic Pentium Prescott for a CPU for all we know.

I may have explained it incorrectly; my English is not very good, so I apologize. A computer with a 3080ti graphics card costs 900 USD, or 37,000 TL. There are computers with 5060Tİ and 7800XT graphics cards available at the same price. However, these two cards are brand new, while the 3080Tİ is second-hand. To be honest, I don't really want the RX 7800XT because it lags behind the 3080 Ti in raw power and doesn't have any advanced technology. However, I think the 5060 Ti with DLSS 4.0 will suffice for me at 2K resolution for a long time.

So the 7800XT is about $450, the 5070 and 9070 are about $575. If you're buying a system with a used 3080Ti in it, how robust in the warranty because you WILL need it. They are 4-year old cards that run to within an inch of their life and need careful maintenance with thermal pads, even more so if they were used for mining, and most of them WERE used for mining.

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How much are import taxes from another country?

Turkey imposes excessive taxes on such items. And since purchasing power is low here, I cannot afford to spend much money.

 

[Macro Device]

These prebuilts almost never come with an adequate PSU so it's a crystal clear win for a 5060 Ti system. Yes, it's significantly slower but at least it's much less of a fire hazard.

 

[NorinRadd]

These prebuilts almost never come with an adequate PSU so it's a crystal clear win for a 5060 Ti system. Yes, it's significantly slower but at least it's much less of a fire hazard.

I'm going to assemble the 3080ti system myself, so I won't use a low-quality PSU. The only second-hand device in the 3080ti computer will be the graphics card. But the 5060ti really confused me, as it outperforms the 3080ti card with DLSS 4.0 and Mfg. I'm assembling the 3080ti system myself, so I won't be using a low-quality PSU. The only second-hand component in the 3080ti computer will be the graphics card. However, the 5060 Ti has really confused me—it outperforms the 3080 Ti with DLSS 4.0 and MFG. But I'm not entirely sure if these technologies work well. Do they add too much latency? If they perform well, I'll probably go with the 5060 Ti with DLSS 4.0 and MFG.

 

[adilazimdegilx]

Sadly, new card prices in Turkey is absolute bonkers. It's really tempting to go used as they can be found considerably cheaper. Hard to make the call. For example cheapest new 5060TI is 22K rn, while you can buy 3080 12GB for 13,5k as used...

One thing to check if you are planing to buy full system is the quality of other parts. Brand new full systems tend to have absolute cheapest MB, ram and PSU in a flashy but offbrand case.

 

[NorinRadd]

Sadly, new card prices in Turkey is absolute bonkers. It's really tempting to go used as they can be found considerably cheaper. Hard to make the call. For example cheapest new 5060TI is 22K rn, while you can buy 3080 12GB for 13,5k as used...

One thing to check if you are planing to buy full system is the quality of other parts. Brand new full systems tend to have absolute cheapest MB, ram and PSU in a flashy but offbrand case.

I will purchase and assemble all the other parts. It will not be a low-quality case. The only thing I am missing is a graphics card.

 

[Chrispy_]

I may have explained it incorrectly; my English is not very good, so I apologize. A computer with a 3080ti graphics card costs 900 USD, or 37,000 TL. There are computers with 5060Tİ and 7800XT graphics cards available at the same price. However, these two cards are brand new, while the 3080Tİ is second-hand. To be honest, I don't really want the RX 7800XT because it lags behind the 3080 Ti in raw power and doesn't have any advanced technology. However, I think the 5060 Ti with DLSS 4.0 will suffice for me at 2K resolution for a long time.


Turkey imposes excessive taxes on such items. And since purchasing power is low here, I cannot afford to spend much money.

The 5060Ti 16GB is absolutely fine but it's only about 75% the raw speed of a 3080Ti.

On the plus side, it's new, actually has a warranty, uses WAAAAAY less power, supports DLSS4 and Ray Reconstruction without a huge performance penalty like the 20-series and 30-series cards, and allows Frame-gen which is genuinely useful if you have a high-refresh display.

950USD for a complete system with a 3080Ti seems like it could be an okay price, but only it's a refurb from a shop with a warranty you can depend on. Like I said, 30-series GDDR6X cards are dropping like flies right now because even ignoring those that have been abused by ETH miners, they run very hot and they're all the age where they'll have been cooked now unless someone has been keeping them clean and has replaced the original thermal pads at least once by now.

 

[NorinRadd]

The 5060Ti 16GB is absolutely fine but it's only about 75% the raw speed of a 3080Ti.

On the plus side, it's new, actually has a warranty, uses WAAAAAY less power, supports DLSS4 and Ray Reconstruction without a huge performance penalty like the 20-series and 30-series cards, and allows Frame-gen which is genuinely useful if you have a high-refresh display.

950USD for a complete system with a 3080Ti seems like it could be an okay price, but only it's a refurb from a shop with a warranty you can depend on. Like I said, 30-series GDDR6X cards are dropping like flies right now because even ignoring those that have been abused by ETH miners, they run very hot and they're all the age where they'll have been cooked now unless someone has been keeping them clean and has replaced the original thermal pads at least once by now.

This is the card I am considering purchasing. or this.

 

[Rover4444]

Friends, I'm building a system that will allow me to play games at 2K resolution with ultra settings. I'm very confused, so I wanted to ask for help.



On one hand, I'm considering building a system myself and purchasing a used 3080 Ti for around 35,000 TL (900 USD). On the other hand, the RTX 5060 Ti graphics card is confusing me. Thanks to MFG and DLSS, it matches or even outperforms the 3080 Ti, but it still can't provide the raw power I want right now, so I don't think it will be able to do so in 3-4 years either.



On the other hand, there's also the idea of purchasing a pre-built system with the 7800 XT. Which one would you choose, or is there a system you'd say, “If I were you, I'd choose this case”?

The 7800 XT is a great card but if the 3080 Ti is the same price you should probably get that. The 5060 Ti is also a good card but doesn't come close to either of those card's performance.

This is the card I am considering purchasing. or this.

Dawg they're really telling us to make an account

 

[adilazimdegilx]

Maybe check the 4070 SUPER options (make sure it's super not a just 4070). It is considerably faster than 5060TI and also 3080TI while having DLSS4 and 2x FG.

 

[NorinRadd]

The 7800 XT is a great card but if the 3080 Ti is the same price you should probably get that. The 5060 Ti is also a good card but doesn't come close to either of those card's performance.


Dawg they're really telling us to make an account

Palit GameRock RTX 3080 Ti 12GB OC Boxed. Open to any test. Furmark 70 degrees.


Box and box contents are complete, original anti-sag bracket included. Block and fan health are in excellent condition. At the end of the 1080p Furmark test, the temperature was 69 degrees. During the test, the fans were on auto, and at the end of the test, they were at 48% speed. There are no signs of wear and tear on the fans or the block, such as corrosion or discoloration.


Prior to listing, thermal paste and pad replacement was performed in our service using phase change material and putty. The work performed is guaranteed by us for 6 months.


We are an IT company, our location is suitable, we have test systems and coffee, you can perform any test you want and test game performance. We also offer installation and setup services.

The first link's photo and description @Chrispy_ @Macro Device

furmark 71 degree. second link.

Maybe check the 4070 SUPER options (make sure it's super not a just 4070). It is considerably faster than 5060TI and also 3080TI while having DLSS4 and 2x FG.

There is a difference of 6,000 TL. The cheapest 4070s Gainward is 21,000 TL, and it is second-hand.

The 7800 XT is a great card but if the 3080 Ti is the same price you should probably get that. The 5060 Ti is also a good card but doesn't come close to either of those card's performance.


Dawg they're really telling us to make an account

The second-hand RTX 3080Tİ is the same price as the zero 7800xt.

 

[Chrispy_]

Tough call. These are all used 3080Ti cards, but if they have been repasted, cleaned, tested, and come with a 6-month guarantee it's maybe the best option for the money.

What is the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor? 2K is ambiguous (it's a cinema projector resolution, doesn't directly correspond to either 1080p or 1440p).
Some people shorten 2.5K (2560) to "2K" which is super dumb, because 1920 is much closer to 2K

 

[NorinRadd]

Tough call. These are all used 3080Ti cards, but if they have been repasted, cleaned, tested, and come with a 6-month guarantee it's maybe the best option for the money.

What is the resolution and refresh rate of your monitor? 2K is ambiguous (it's a cinema projector resolution, doesn't directly correspond to either 1080p or 1440p).
Some people shorten 2.5K (2560) to "2K" which is super dumb, because 1920 is much closer to 2K

I'm going to buy a Lenovo Legion R27QE 67C5GAC1TK 27" 0.5 ms 2K Pivot IPS 180 Hz.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm going to buy a Lenovo Legion R27QE 67C5GAC1TK 27" 0.5 ms 2K Pivot IPS 180 Hz.

So 1440p, or 2.5K
Please don't use "2K", it's not a real resolution and it just causes confusion because 2K is closest to 1080p.

Anyway, you do need more than 8GB at 1440p these days, so you are looking at 12GB or 16GB GPUs for sure.

 

[NorinRadd]

So 1440p, or 2.5K
Please don't use "2K", it's not a real resolution and it just causes confusion because 2K is closest to 1080p.

Anyway, you do need more than 8GB at 1440p these days, so you are looking at 12GB or 16GB GPUs for sure.

I checked the FPS values for the game Doom: Dark Ages. In terms of raw power, the 5060ti achieves 45 FPS at 1080p on high settings, but the 3080ti achieves 88 FPS at 2k ultra. I think I'll go for the 3080ti.