Will TS work for my Intel Core i7-13620H 13th Gen?

[Rudy TN]

I really want to lower the power consumption but I get "Not Available" in FIVR
I already tried disabling VBS Core Isolation and the Windows features for it
Is it just not possible for my laptop to be undervolted or something so that it isnt cooking scrambled eggs?

My temps go to 70-75c and that's only after using Armor Crate to "turn off" some performance and efficient cores
I'm also under the assumption those temps are "acceptable" but I would prefer under 70c so it doesnt feel like its melting that center spot just above the keyboard

 

[unclewebb]

Not Available

Intel removed CPU voltage control from their mobile H series CPUs. This feature is only available in the unlocked mobile HX series such as the 13900HX and the 14900HX.

The H series run hot, hot, hot and there is not much you can do about it.

 

[Rudy TN]

Intel removed CPU voltage control from their mobile H series CPUs. This feature is only available in the unlocked mobile HX series such as the 13900HX and the 14900HX.

The H series run hot, hot, hot and there is not much you can do about it.

What about the 13700HX? Also a laptop/mobile CPU
Only asking bcuz that would of been the other one I almost got
I chose this one bcuz the performance difference between GPUs was greater than between the 2 CPUs

And really, nothing on TS I can change?
I read about the speedshift n a few options in TPL but don't know what to set it to or which ones to change

 

[AleXXX666]

What about the 13700HX?
Only asking bcuz that would of been the other one I almost got
Also a laptop/mobile CPU

And really, nothing on TS I can change?
I read about the speedshift n a few options in TPL but don't know what to set it to or which ones to change

try to change them PL1 and PL2. Check waht consumption it gets while gaming, for example (if you don't "work" like render etc.)
the clock is the key too. disable turbo as a final way to go. I'm pretty happy with my i7-11800H with disabled HT and Turbo (HT in BIOS, Turbo in windows by cpu min-max 99%) - I can always change power plan back to "turbo enabled" if I need that speed, but for gaming (I play Hitman 3 and GTA V) these relatively old beast gets job done even with HT off and at 2.3 GHz

 

[Rudy TN]

I'll give that a try thank!
I asked about 13700HX bcuz I think I can still return this one for it

 

[unclewebb]

13700HX

Intel fully unlocks all HX processors. The problem is that some individual laptop manufacturers can decide to lock out full control of these processors. This can happen at any time. They can be locked before they are sold or they can be locked later on after a BIOS update.

I would still much rather have a HX processor. It is easy enough to run ThrottleStop after you buy a new laptop to see what features are available to you. The H series are all 100% locked. Buying a laptop with a H series CPU is kind of like buying a used lottery ticket. You are guaranteed to have lost the lottery.

 

[Rudy TN]

Intel fully unlocks all HX processors. The problem is that some individual laptop manufacturers can decide to lock out full control of these processors. This can happen at any time. They can be locked before they are sold or they can be locked later on after a BIOS update.

I would still much rather have a HX processor. It is easy enough to run ThrottleStop after you buy a new laptop to see what features are available to you. The H series are all 100% locked. Buying a laptop with a H series CPU is kind of like buying a used lottery ticket. You are guaranteed to have lost the lottery.

Dang, so there's no guarantee that it's better but at least there's a chance
Is there no way to force unlocking on either the H CPU I have, or the HX if it turns out to be locked ?

The temp it runs at 68c-72c-76c is at least not destroying the laptop itself, apparently they're meant/built to run hot

 

[PHVM_BR]

When the manufacturer doesn't block, H CPUs can just lower the ratios, but undervolt is impossible.

 

[Rudy TN]

try to change them PL1 and PL2. Check waht consumption it gets while gaming, for example (if you don't "work" like render etc.)
the clock is the key too. disable turbo as a final way to go. I'm pretty happy with my i7-11800H with disabled HT and Turbo (HT in BIOS, Turbo in windows by cpu min-max 99%) - I can always change power plan back to "turbo enabled" if I need that speed, but for gaming (I play Hitman 3 and GTA V) these relatively old beast gets job done even with HT off and at 2.3 GHz

HT is HyperThread yes? Is that what the H stands for in our CPUs?
And I'm sure our CPUs dont need to run at max 24/7 to run well
Heck my 5th gen CPU is unvolted and runs Helldivers 2 easily

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

Is that what the H stands for in our CPUs?

What Do the Letters Mean in Intel Core Processor Names?

Here is a list of the suffixes and their meanings.

 

[Rudy TN]

try to change them PL1 and PL2.

How do I do this? Can't select in TPL

the clock is the key too.

What does this mean?

 

[AleXXX666]

How do I do this? Can't select in TPL

What does this mean?

clock - frequency. I practice "disabling Turbo Boost" to help the cooling system to reduce heat, my sh*tty Asus TUF has ONE cooling for RTX 3050 and i7-11800H, now imagine this while gaming LOL...

about PL I'll reply later as I'm on desktop currently and the picture is different on my laptop, which is more relevant for your case.

 

[AleXXX666]

How do I do this? Can't select in TPL

What does this mean?

seems developer of TS has changed interface. I've used 9.6 with my i5-10300H on my ASUS TUF F15. Now theese both screenshots I've made on i7-11800H on same TUF F15 but newer model
so go to TPL, UNTICK "disable controls", TICK PL1 and PL2 and set them as You wish. I've used that LONG PL1 is like 45W which is Intel default for most "H" laptop CPUs. Then SHORT PL2 for like maybe 65W is okay. Disable turbo boost or set the ratio in "speed shift", maybe (I don't remember) - and you are good to go. My i5-10300H hot boy was taimed like this

 

[unclewebb]

UNTICK "disable controls", TICK PL1 and PL2 and set them as You wish.

The Power Limit Controls section is exactly the same in TS 9.6 or TS 9.7. Do not be afraid of change. More changes are coming to TS. This is definitely not a "WTF" moment. The next planned change might be!

Many recent laptops use an embedded controller to enforce the turbo power limits. Changing the MSR and MMIO power limits in ThrottleStop may allow one to lower the power limits but this might not let you increase the power limits when the EC power limit is set lower than the MSR and MMIO power limits.

 

[A&P211]

You can try to find a MSI laptop, they have advanced bios that lets you undervolt.

 

[AleXXX666]

You can try to find a MSI laptop, they have advanced bios that lets you undervolt.

they are generally not very good in terms of longevity and good components also. Not worth trade in lol

 

[A&P211]

they are generally not very good in terms of longevity and good components also. Not worth trade in lol

The lower tier MSI laptop are complete trash, but their GE or GP models are fine.

 

[Rudy TN]

seems developer of TS has changed interface. I've used 9.6 with my i5-10300H on my ASUS TUF F15. Now theese both screenshots I've made on i7-11800H on same TUF F15 but newer model
so go to TPL, UNTICK "disable controls", TICK PL1 and PL2 and set them as You wish. I've used that LONG PL1 is like 45W which is Intel default for most "H" laptop CPUs. Then SHORT PL2 for like maybe 65W is okay. Disable turbo boost or set the ratio in "speed shift", maybe (I don't remember) - and you are good to go. My i5-10300H hot boy was taimed like this

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I see your PL4 is set to 0 on both (where is PL3? lol)
Is that one different than the other PL`s?

Also, AC has this:

Does it not do the same thing?
Or does it not work?

 

[AleXXX666]

I see your PL4 is set to 0 on both (where is PL3? lol)
Is that one different than the other PL`s?

Also, AC has this:
View attachment 379803
Does it not do the same thing?
Or does it not work?

If your reply to mine configuration, then these screenshots are made when TS hasn't been used already. I just run it to show the OP what I've done previously and it worked.