Windows 11 22H2 high interrupt to process latency on new 13th Gen Intel build

[Dr. Dro]

Hey guys, I've just finished building and setting up my new rig (system specs on profile), and I'm making this thread because I've exhausted the list of things that I would consider and no longer have any idea on how to move forward. I was hoping that someone here might have run into a similar problem and would know how to proceed. To clear it up first: Windows 10 22H2 works and performs correctly. There are no stability issues - the processor is not overclocked and hardware passes all tests (OCCT, prime95, etc.) under Windows 10 and bootable tests (memtest86+ and PassMark's version) successfully.

However, under Windows 11, there seems to be a problem with interrupt to process latency causing the OS to become extremely sluggish and unresponsive to the point it's unusable - program installers fail with timeout errors, and those that do function take an insane amount of time - for example, the old DirectX 9 offline installer took about 35 minutes(!) to complete. The Intel graphics installer fails, NVIDIA one completes but takes at least four times as it long as normally would, W1zz's Visual C++ installer batch would take an hour to finish if I let it complete... I'm just out of ideas. It's so bad that I can't get it to work past the initial setup of Windows, which somehow and for whatever reason beyond my comprehension, finishes normally. Here's what LatencyMon reports, apologies in advance for the good old camera method but this wasn't even connected to the internet yet:

Note that this is not caused by any driver in particular, it will still occur with no drivers installed at all and is reproducible on a completely clean slate install.

Here's the full checklist of things that I've done:

- Checked Event Viewer for WHEA errors (none present)
- Ran TM5 (anta777 profile) under Windows 11 (the test completes successfully)
- Disabled the RAM XMP setting
- Tried running fully stock settings in BIOS
- Tried disabling fTPM (there is no dTPM installed)
- Tried disabling virtualization support in BIOS
- Tried disabling core isolation setting
- Tried redownloading it from Microsoft thrice (making this the fourth installation of Windows 11 I've done on this PC tonight)
- Tried preparing media with Rufus instead of official tool
- Tried another USB stick (despite the fact the 128 GB stick I've used initially is brand new)
- Tried a different SSD
- Tried flashing the 3 past BIOS revisions to no avail

What I didn't do:

- Try Windows 11 21H2 instead (not sure that would be wise)

I'd really appreciate suggestions and input, because I've just about had it. Finished setting up my Win10 installation and plan on just enjoying my new PC for the time being. It's been months since I had a good PC to play a game on and I'm not about to let this spoil it.

 

[P4-630]

Open Issues

• Increase in DPC latency observed in LatencyMon [3952556]

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[Dr. Dro]

Open Issues

• Increase in DPC latency observed in LatencyMon [3952556]

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I'm aware, but my problem occurs without the Nvidia driver installed. The OS is quite literally unusable

 

[bug]

Last I checked latencymon wasn't accurate on Win11. It was a while back so maybe it was updated, idk.

When you say "no driver installed", well... that's not really accurate. Windows will load a crapload of drivers on its own (otherwise you wouldn't have graphics or a working keyboard). That aside, there is a real issue somewhere. I wasn't even able to stream HBO from a Win10 laptop to my TV without sound desyncs all the time - ended up buying a Chromecast. I can't say if it's caused by misbehaving drivers (shouldn't happen since they WHQLed, but whatever) or there is something inherently flawed in Windows' scheduling. You could try disabling any sort of performance throttling, see if that makes the problem go away and work from there. But as I said, I eventually gave up, so I'm probably not the right person to give advice on this.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Last I checked latencymon wasn't accurate on Win11. It was a while back so maybe it was updated, idk.

When you say "no driver installed", well... that's not really accurate. Windows will load a crapload of drivers on its own (otherwise you wouldn't have graphics or a working keyboard). That aside, there is a real issue somewhere. I wasn't even able to stream HBO from a Win10 laptop to my TV without sound desyncs all the time - ended up buying a Chromecast. I can't say if it's caused by misbehaving drivers (shouldn't happen since they WHQLed, but whatever) or there is something inherently flawed in Windows' scheduling. You could try disabling any sort of performance throttle it, see if that makes the problem go away and work from there. But as I said, I eventually gave up, so I'm probably not the right person to give advice on this.

Well, by that I mean, none of the driver packages for my hardware were installed. I eventually installed the chipset driver and the NVIDIA driver trying to see if it would smooth it out, but it didn't.

I installed LatencyMon on a hunch, and saw those astronomical figures so I presumed it's the root cause. I've just really have no idea why Windows itself seems to perform at full speed for the most part, while any other program I try to run is extremely slow and even fail to work. It's been a tough nut to crack, this one. I've just no bloody clue anymore.

On the upside, on Windows 10 this thing has been insane! It's so fast it blows me away!

 

[bug]

Well, by that I mean, none of the driver packages for my hardware were installed. I eventually installed the chipset driver and the NVIDIA driver trying to see if it would smooth it out, but it didn't.

I installed LatencyMon on a hunch, and saw those astronomical figures so I presumed it's the root cause. I've just really have no idea why Windows itself seems to perform at full speed for the most part, while any other program I try to run is extremely slow and even fail to work. It's been a tough nut to crack, this one. I've just no bloody clue anymore.

On the upside, on Windows 10 this thing has been insane! It's so fast it blows me away!

Keep in mind if it's a fresh install you may have indexing running amok. Otherwise, defender is a known performance killer.
On numerous occasions I can see the minimized task manager go towards 100% load, but when I open it and look at processes, whatever is shown in there doesn't add up to 100%. Windows likes to do some work really behind the scenes, it would seem. I've had this on both Win10 and Win11.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Keep in mind if it's a fresh install you may have indexing running amok. Otherwise, defender is a known performance killer.
On numerous occasions I can see the minimized task manager go towards 100% load, but when I open it and look at processes, whatever is shown in there doesn't add up to 100%. Windows likes to do some work really behind the scenes, it would seem. I've had this on both Win10 and Win11.

I secure erased both SSDs before I installed Windows. Even if indexing occurred it'd be instant because one SSD basically had Windows and the other was empty and unmounted. But nah, as far as I could see in Task Manager, CPU load at 0%, memory at around 8% and disk usage at 0%... few stuck apps never going above 0.1MB/s disk activity. That's why I find it so outrageously weird, it's unlike anything I've ever encountered before.

 

[dgianstefani]

11 isn't great.

Use 10 until 12 comes out in my opinion. Testing has shown little gaming performance difference between 10/11 anyway even with P/E cores. Use process lasso if you are worried.

 

[Dr. Dro]

11 isn't great.

Use 10 until 12 comes out in my opinion. Testing has shown little gaming performance difference between 10/11 anyway even with P/E cores. Use process lasso if you are worried.

Yeah, man. It seems I'm without many options from here on out, I'm beginning to suspect either a BIOS-level bug (seems very unlikely to me?) or maybe just something that's in 11 22H2 that seriously dislikes my setup. Maybe 11 23H2 or 12 will work... in any case, I left it installed on the other SSD. I've been messing with it for hours at this point with nothing for show.

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah, man. It seems I'm without many options from here on out, I'm beginning to suspect either a BIOS-level bug (seems very unlikely to me?) or maybe just something that's in 11 22H2 that seriously dislikes my setup. Maybe 11 23H2 or 12 will work... in any case, I left it installed on the other SSD. I've been messing with it for hours at this point with nothing for show.

Tweaking community for 10 is a lot more mature too.

 

[Klemc]

Keep in mind if it's a fresh install you may have indexing running amok. Otherwise, defender is a known performance killer.
I've had this on both Win10 and Win11.

Build an unattended with ADK takes care of that things.

Me too.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Tweaking community for 10 is a lot more mature too.

Right now just have Start11, Fences 4 and Wallpaper Engine installed, it's about what I use

It's almost an insult using a system of this caliber with a 1080p 60Hz display, but hey, the OLED dream comes soon™.

Build an unattended with ADK takes care of that things.

Me too.

ADK wouldn't do anything for me, probably. Both SSDs were empty and this isn't a low end system where having Defender merely enabled would slow it down to a crawl where it's so slow that not even a driver installer finishes correctly. Not to mention that I've disabled it using this tool anyway:

GitHub - pgkt04/defender-control: An open-source windows defender manager. Now you can disable windows defender permanently.

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It's not like I'm an inexperienced user, if I made a thread to begin with is that I am honestly and sincerely out of reasonable ideas to try.

 

[dgianstefani]

O&O ShutUp10++ - O&O Software GmbH

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Try this.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I'll check it out, although, I'm not sure Defender or telemetry are the culprit. Seems very unusual that it'd prioritize itself over the user experience so hard that it'd make a high-spec PC unusable right out of the box. Then again, anything is possible.

 

[LabRat 891]

[Joke]You see, the problem is all those repeating digits. Windows 11 22H2. It's the only logical explanation as to why 10 works, but not 11[/joke]

 

[nomdeplume]

In all honesty I would, a staff member hit send before me, install whatever looks good from here. Then add O&O and probably Winaero Tweaker.

Chances are this is a security conflict arising within the longstanding corporate attempts to force their own internal and proprietary designs on the world at large. In other words, I have no clue other than the programs I gave up and installed to fix a wide range of issues W11 always seemed willing to grind to a halt in order to undo.

 

[Klemc]

Your O/C perhaps !?

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[nomdeplume]

I'll check it out, although, I'm not sure Defender or telemetry are the culprit. Seems very unusual that it'd prioritize itself over the user experience so hard that it'd make a high-spec PC unusable right out of the box. Then again, anything is possible.

I'd change that to Explorer and telemetry in normal circumstances. One of the largest source of slowdowns today is DING DING Microsoft Defender "x" tool that instantly installs once given internet. So whatever you do I'd start from a fresh install and no internet.

First run the bel, O&O, Winaero that lock down W11 and shut off all the extraneous vampire behaviors.
Then run WU or the offline updater so many here use (No Defender tools and no defender updates if you can manage it). Things should speed up and work much better following!
Finally install all of your up to date drivers and registry patches or whatever. At this point W11 should be unable to install or change anything driver related.

 

[Dr. Dro]

In all honesty I would, a staff member hit send before me, install whatever looks good from here. Then add O&O and probably Winaero Tweaker.

Chances are this is a security conflict arising within the longstanding corporate attempts to force their own internal and proprietary designs on the world at large. In other words, I have no clue other than the programs I gave up and installed to fix a wide range of issues W11 always seemed willing to grind to a halt in order to undo.

I use Winaero and have always used it for a very long time. The things O&O seem to do are for the most part things I have done manually for some time now

This was all done offline, by the way, as soon as I first booted the OS. Which is why it's so puzzling to me. It should be completely "pure" at this point.

Your O/C perhaps !?

As I've mentioned, it occurs with a freshly flashed BIOS and completely stock settings. No clue. You've seen me rant on Discord about it, man.

 

[bug]

I'll check it out, although, I'm not sure Defender or telemetry are the culprit. Seems very unusual that it'd prioritize itself over the user experience so hard that it'd make a high-spec PC unusable right out of the box. Then again, anything is possible.

The only way to disable Defender reliably, is to install another AV. Otherwise it has the nasty habit to come back to life.

 

[nomdeplume]

You are not the least competent member here by some margin. Mobo manufacturer customer service might be a good next step if W11 is unusable.

 

[bug]

You are not the least competent member here by some margin. Mobo manufacturer customer service might be a good next step if W11 is unusable.

Tbh, my work Win11 install has this habit where it times out loading a web page. I can use wget/curl from wsl and the page is pulled just fine. Try it in a browser, timed out. Switched browsers too, with no effect. Opened up a ticket to IT support, they couldn't figure it out either. It just looks like there's a lot of warts surrounding Win11's performance still

Keep in mind my problem can also be stemming from customizations our IT does to Windows when setting it up, but I'm sure about that and the problem is similar to what OP describes (i.e. seemingly random performance issues).

 

[Chry]

Some things to try:

- https://www.sordum.org/9480/defender-control-v2-1/
- https://wpd.app/download/ - disable everything including advanced and block TM.
- https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
- Disable TPM in BIOS, disable/uninstall TPM driver in device manager and make sure it stays disabled after restarting.

 

[dgianstefani]

Some things to try:

- https://www.sordum.org/9480/defender-control-v2-1/
- https://wpd.app/download/ - disable everything including advanced and block TM.
- https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
- Disable TPM in BIOS, disable/uninstall TPM driver in device manager and make sure it stays disabled after restarting.

WPD is great.

 

[droid-I]

so, is the same issue as another reported yesterday?

Should i ditch my motherboard and get a new one? SOLVED!

I am getting hard pagefaults, high latency in Latencymonitor. The driver responsible for high latency is the wdf01000.sys. Note: Latency increases whenever i overclock the cpu. Maybe the mobo cant hold up with it ? All my specs are in profile, i have updated bios to last version, properly...

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wdf01000.sys
He found some solution for his case.