Tuesday, November 23rd 2010

Zambezi AM3+ Core Logic Slated for Q2-2011

AMD's upcoming "Bulldozer" architecture based processors that use a new socket type, the AM3+, are slated for Q2, 2011. To complement its launch, AMD will be launching the 9-series chipset series, consisting of four kinds of desktop chipset. The lineup starts with the AMD 990FX, the high-end 4-way CrossFireX-ready chipset, geared for high-end motherboards. Next up, is the 990X. This discrete graphics chipset is also ready for CrossFireX, but has just 16 PCI-Express 2.0 lanes to spare for graphics, platforms based on this will feature two PCI-Express x16 slots which reconfigure to electrical x8 slots when both are populated.

The third is an entry-level discrete graphics chipset that doesn't support CrossFire, but can spare one PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slot for discrete graphics, it's the AMD 970. Lastly, there's the 980G integrated graphics chipset, which features a DirectX 10.1 compliant IGP, which supports UVD 2.0 video acceleration. For some reason, this chipset doesn't support older AM3 processors, but only AM3+. The other chipsets in the series however, do support existing socket AM3 Athlon II and Phenom II series processors. All four northbridge chipsets support HyperTransport 3.0 processor interconnect, supporting data rates of up to 5.2 GT/s.
To back up these northbridge chipsets, are two new southbridge chips, which are compatible with any of the above northbridge chips over ALink III Express chipset bus (technically PCI-Express 2.0 x4). The SB950 is a high-end southbridge that packs a six port SATA 6 Gb/s AHCI/RAID controller which includes support for RAID 5 mode, and 14 USB 2.0 ports. The SB920 is the value southbridge part which will be paired mostly with 980G and 970. It packs a six port SATA 6 Gb/s AHCI/RAID controller, but without RAID 5 support.
Source: AMDZone Forums
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36 Comments on Zambezi AM3+ Core Logic Slated for Q2-2011

#27
Roph
cavemanthreeonesixwish they would just add native sli support, I know it'd be counter productive towards their effects in the graphics market but if the bulldozer is as good as were led to believe it'd probably go a long way to helping increase their market share in cpu's. Unless they can dramitically increase the scaling performance in crossfire for the 69xx cards
From what I remember, SLI is essentially locked by nvidia. You must pay to "license" it from them. It is simply an artificial limitation imposed by Nvidia, it is not AMD's fault.
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#28
btarunr
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mechtechHmmm I am curious when SB will have integrated USB 3.0??
When Intel improve their chipset bus (that which connects NB to SB, or CPU to PCH), and be in a position to adopt it.

Currently Intel uses a piss-poor DMI link which is physically PCI-E 1.1 x4 with Intel's own low-overhead data coding scheme. That translates to just 1 GB/s per direction, 2 GB/s total. There's no bandwidth for a SATA 6 Gb/s controller or a couple of USB 3.0 controllers that are embedded in the SB/PCH.

X58 to ICH10R as well as LGA1156 CPU to PCH is DMI.

Chipset bus is the biggest bottleneck in today's systems. AMD was able to alleviate it by doubling the bandwidth, so 8-series chipsets use a PCI-E 2.0 x4, but it could only accommodate a 6-port SATA 6 Gb/s AHCI/RAID controller.
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#29
chithanh
JF-AMDIt's Llano, not Liano. It uses a different socket because you have to route the video out of the package.
Really? From what I have read it has nothing to do with video. Intel socket 1156 for example supports CPUs both with and without integrated graphics. If I am not mistaken, the different socket is because Llano platforms don't have a separate northbridge.
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#30
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
and you do realize newbie that JF AMD is an employee of AMD correct and works as a Server Rep or w.e so whatever youve read is pretty much garbage compared to what he says :roll: also way to rez and old thread
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#31
JF-AMD
AMD Rep (Server)
Yes, but if you have used up all of your pins and now you have to route out video, what do you do?

The AM3 socket has 939 pins, which means about 200 fewer pins than the intel. Yes, 1156 supports both, but you have enough pins to support video out and if you don't need it they are empty.
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#32
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
JF-AMDYes, but if you have used up all of your pins and now you have to route out video, what do you do?
You still embed a GPU, leave a DAC in the chipset, and send data to it over existing HyperTransport pins (primary HT link).
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#33
HalfAHertz
btarunrYou still embed a GPU, leave a DAC in the chipset, and send data to it over existing HyperTransport pins (primary HT link).
wouldn't that eat up its precious bandwidth?
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#34
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
HalfAHertzwouldn't that eat up its precious bandwidth?
Intel FDI does the same thing at 338 MB/s. There's plenty of bandwidth in 4000 MT/s HT links for that. Besides, for a GPU to stay in the northbridge and access system memory (UMA), the HyperTransport link is strained even more. If you place the GPU on-die, you're freeing up the link a little, and also chopping that GPU-to-UMA access latency.
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#35
poohbear
WarEagleAUI was hoping they would have a DX11 outfit out there. Intel just recently said something about introducing the USB 3.0 native spec (saw it in MaximumPC I think) so maybe they might get it out in time for the 9 series and intels newest chipsets to have it. Wishful thinking I know.

I think either Complement or Compliment will work unless they are using it as a reference to complement something, like a bottle of wine with a meal ;)
intel isnt crazy about supporting USB 3.0, they've been delaying it time and again because they have their own interface that they're pushing: light peak
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#36
HalfAHertz
poohbearintel isnt crazy about supporting USB 3.0, they've been delaying it time and again because they have their own interface that they're pushing: light peak
From what I understood about light peak, it's just an intermediate interface - as in southbridge>lightpeak>USB3, so the chipset would still need usb3 support...
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