Sigh, 28nm GPUs in nov 2015.

RophSigh, 28nm GPUs in nov 2015.

What did you expect ?

They are trying to take advantage of that huge performance gap between Nvidias GTX 960 and GTX 970 which is quite a huge gap in my opinion.

GigabyteFanBoyThey are trying to take advantage of that huge performance gap between Nvidias GTX 960 and GTX 970 which is quite a huge gap in my opinion.

Correct, since the 380 is in the same tier as the 960 (altho I feel the 380 is better), and the 390 fits alongside the 970. This will be the perfect in-between!

rtwjunkieCorrect, since the 380 is in the same tier as the 960 (altho I feel the 380 is better), and the 390 fits alongside the 970. This will be the perfect in-between!

I honestly feel like this is more of a good thing for AMD to take advantage of cuz no offense to the AMD lovers. the 390 and 390x were in my opinion not that great to there earlyer brothers the 290 and 290x. Im just hoping the 380x will be able to live up to my expectations.

and let me just say Dang those are some good looking cards and not that big. the size of a gtx 960 4gb at least from gigabyte seemed a lil large for a card of that performance.

If priced aggressively then it might push nvidia to drop the price of their GTX960 as at their current price feel a little overpriced.

ChaitanyaIf prices aggressively then it might push nvidia to drop the price of their GTX960 as at their current price feel a little overpriced.

Can't argue with you at all there. The downside for AMD is they would then be forced to drop the price of their comparably-priced R9 380.

ChaitanyaIf prices aggressively then it might push nvidia to drop the price of their GTX960 as at their current price feel a little overpriced.

I feel as though that is highly unlikely do to them just realsing the gtx 950 which they would have to push the price down on also if they pushed the price of the 960 down. Which to me doesnt seem very likely. but dont get me wrong I do feel as though the 960 and 950 do need a bit of a price drop.

I'm looking forward t this and hope W1zz tests a few models when they release. If it is good, I know the perfect place for it: replcing a GTX 760 inmy Project PC. It's enough of an increase that the performance gains woul be noticeable, I'm sure.

rtwjunkieI'm looking forward t this and hope W1zz tests a few models when they release. If it is good, I know the perfect place for it: replcing a GTX 760 inmy Project PC. It's enough of an increase that the performance gains woul be noticeable, I'm sure.

I wouldnt be suprised if they test a few models.

ChaitanyaIf prices aggressively then it might push nvidia to drop the price of their GTX960 as at their current price feel a little overpriced.

It appear Nvidia is/has dropped the 960 2Gb flavor, for what is suppose to be the "taster" 4Gb, and hoping it can hold their price point against the 380. While lately what I'm seeing in the States the 380 appear to have won back some pricing from Nvidia's move as 4Gb are more $190-215 and now there like 11 380's sporting 2Gb hold just below $170 up to $200 many working rebates

I say if anything this 380X should have the more "pedestrian" 970 customs being real about the value of those, and realize pricing has to get aggressive. Although, I think AMD isn't working an abundance of these XT variants, and that will have AIB custom like those shown running $260+ on day one, and very few dipping below a MSRP even with a rebate even into the first of next year.

I will be a nice enough card, but isn't any game changer, let hope I'm wrong...

Yeah, I read that about the 960's the other day going all 4GB according to Nvidia...surprised it wasn't a news item.

The AIB partners will be selling off remaining stock of 2GB variants.

I've been seeing the 4GB R9 380 going for between $205 and $215 so they are priced competitively.

rtwjunkieYeah, I read that about the 960's the other day going all 4GB according to Nvidia...surprised it wasn't a news item.

The AIB partners will be selling off remaining stock of 2GB variants.

I've been seeing the 4GB R9 380 going for between $205 and $215 so they are priced competitively.

wasnt the 4gb version only like 8% or so better in benchmarks. and the 4gb version of the 960 are still a lil expensive where i live.

4GB versions of the 960? Yes. However, I think Nvidia saw the writing on the wall with many 1080p games (the 960 market) the 2GB frame buffer is being exceeded.

RophSigh, 28nm GPUs in nov 2015.

Bro do you even recycle? Because AMD does.

AssimilatorBro do you even recycle? Because AMD does.

They might recycle a lil to much cough 390x cough... no offense its a good card

GigabyteFanBoyThey might recycle a lil to much cough 390x cough... no offense its a good card

Sure but on the same token, someone like me who was upgrading from 1GB 6870s in crossfire, the 390 was not only faster but, eliminated running crossfire. So while it might simply be a refresh with higher clocks, more memory, and faster memory, it's a good GPU for anyone that doesn't already have a GCN 1.1 card in this tier. So the only people who really would be disappointed by this are people who already have a 290 or 290x. However, I feel that there is going to be a point where 4GB simply won't be enough. I think we're closer than we think because even in Farcry 4, there were very rare occasions where 4GB of VRAM was exceeded in surround (still ran great by the way.) As an owner of a 390, I'm very happy with it, although that isn't to say that I wouldn't be happy with say, a 290 or 290X but, when push comes to shove, despite being refreshed cards, they seem to run pretty well. People complain about loaded power usage but let me tell you something, when I had two 6870s, my idle consumption was 200 watts. With just one 6870 my machine pulled 175 watts off the wall. With the 390 it draws 150 off the wall but, on the same token, the 390 pulls just as much power as both 6870s combined at full throttle at stock. Power management on the 390 is 5 times better than what was on the 6870, so for someone like me, I'm anything but disappointed.

I'm not saying AMD makes a perfect product, I'm just saying that I think AMD has been demonized way too much for a product that is perfectly fine for someone who doesn't already have that level of hardware. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not like huge strides are going to be made forever, even more so for a company with AMD's budgetary limitations and the state of new fabs on smaller processes.

AquinusSure but on the same token, someone like me who was upgrading from 1GB 6870s in crossfire, the 390 was not only faster but, eliminated running crossfire. So while it might simply be a refresh with higher clocks, more memory, and faster memory, it's a good GPU for anyone that doesn't already have a GCN 1.1 card in this tier. So the only people who really would be disappointed by this are people who already have a 290 or 290x. However, I feel that there is going to be a point where 4GB simply won't be enough. I think we're closer than we think because even in Farcry 4, there were very rare occasions where 4GB of VRAM was exceeded in surround (still ran great by the way.) As an owner of a 390, I'm very happy with it, although that isn't to say that I wouldn't be happy with say, a 290 or 290X but, when push comes to shove, despite being refreshed cards, they seem to run pretty well. People complain about loaded power usage but let me tell you something, when I had two 6870s, my idle consumption was 200 watts. With just one 6870 my machine pulled 175 watts off the wall. With the 390 it draws 150 off the wall but, on the same token, the 390 pulls just as much power as both 6870s combined at full throttle at stock. Power management on the 390 is 5 times better than what was on the 6870, so for someone like me, I'm anything but disappointed.

I'm not saying AMD makes a perfect product, I'm just saying that I think AMD has been demonized way too much for a product that is perfectly fine for someone who doesn't already have that level of hardware. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not like huge strides are going to be made forever, even more so for a company with AMD's budgetary limitations and the state of new fabs on smaller processes.

i wasnt trying to say by any means that its not a good card. I apologize if i came off as i was insulting the card. I was just stating that the card is just a 290x with a bit more memory and speed.

next is geforce 960ti? :toast::peace:

awesomesaucenext is geforce 960ti? :toast::peace:

I would love that, but Its unlikely.

GigabyteFanBoyI would love that, but Its unlikely.

well, now that AMD has this card coming out in between GPU tiers, I find it more likely than it was, because Nvidia won't want to miss out on that market segment.

rtwjunkiewell, now that AMD has this card coming out in between GPU tiers, I find it more likely than it was, because Nvidia won't want to miss out on that market segment.

i would love to see it and i guess its always a possibility.

GigabyteFanBoyi wasnt trying to say by any means that its not a good card. I apologize if i came off as i was insulting the card. I was just stating that the card is just a 290x with a bit more memory and speed.

Nope, I just wanted to add clarity to the matter. I'm not disagreeing with you, just expanding upon it.

AssimilatorBro do you even recycle? Because AMD does.

As usual your attempt to troll is incorrect, the R9 380X is not a chip that's been released ever at least to the public in its full form. Least it has 4gb of full speed memory.

AquinusSure but on the same token, someone like me who was upgrading from 1GB 6870s in crossfire, the 390 was not only faster but, eliminated running crossfire. So while it might simply be a refresh with higher clocks, more memory, and faster memory, it's a good GPU for anyone that doesn't already have a GCN 1.1 card in this tier. So the only people who really would be disappointed by this are people who already have a 290 or 290x. However, I feel that there is going to be a point where 4GB simply won't be enough. I think we're closer than we think because even in Farcry 4, there were very rare occasions where 4GB of VRAM was exceeded in surround (still ran great by the way.) As an owner of a 390, I'm very happy with it, although that isn't to say that I wouldn't be happy with say, a 290 or 290X but, when push comes to shove, despite being refreshed cards, they seem to run pretty well. People complain about loaded power usage but let me tell you something, when I had two 6870s, my idle consumption was 200 watts. With just one 6870 my machine pulled 175 watts off the wall. With the 390 it draws 150 off the wall but, on the same token, the 390 pulls just as much power as both 6870s combined at full throttle at stock. Power management on the 390 is 5 times better than what was on the 6870, so for someone like me, I'm anything but disappointed.

I'm not saying AMD makes a perfect product, I'm just saying that I think AMD has been demonized way too much for a product that is perfectly fine for someone who doesn't already have that level of hardware. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not like huge strides are going to be made forever, even more so for a company with AMD's budgetary limitations and the state of new fabs on smaller processes.

I agree, though power usage could always be better its just fine even on my older 290X cards. But then again I have never really cared much about power consumption on my machine so long as its not to a ridiculous point.

rtwjunkiewell, now that AMD has this card coming out in between GPU tiers, I find it more likely than it was, because Nvidia won't want to miss out on that market segment.

I think they have an OEM GTX 960/ti of some sort already there. The question would be if they intend to release it as a normal GPU and not just an OEM.

I really feel like they waited so long on this card its lost some luster that it could have already had. I mean at this point all the other cards have been out for so long...

GhostRyderI really feel like they waited so long on this card its lost some luster that it could have already had. I mean at this point all the other cards have been out for so long...

Well, this is just about the point they release these types of cards. Maxwell is fully mature, and has at best 6 months of sales left. AMD's bold move of being the leader with the 380X may be just the kick in the pants they need, because I imagine it will sell well.

I've been on the fence to replace the 760, because the 380 is not an improvement really (a little, but not enough), and the 390 is quite a bit more expensive. 380X will do just fine. I'm sure quite a few people have that thinking, and if so, it will sell well.