$649?

Ok, if it's so much power friendly and cool on a new node, why the hell does it need 3 fans where my power hungry GTX 980 runs very quiet with just two? How long is this thing anyway!? Or are they really aiming at absolute silence and they've just gone bonkers with the cooler?

Looks like a copy of the zotac AMP

Wow this is the first time I've seen Asus slap ROG on the Strix GPUs, they always had separate ROG video cards. I always though they were separate line of products.. since they also have Strix mice, and Strix keyboard, while still having ROG mice, headsets, keyboards, and recently x99 motherboard. As soon as they make a Strix PC case, and RAM i could build an entire Strix PC.

RejZoROk, if it's so much power friendly and cool on a new node, why the hell does it need 3 fans where my power hungry GTX 980 runs very quiet with just two? How long is this thing anyway!? Or are they really aiming at absolute silence and they've just gone bonkers with the cooler?

the Strix 980 ti had 3 fans. And if you've been following the topic of how the Founder Edition (reference) thermal throttles using it's single blower design, so it really needs 3 fans.

RejZoROk, if it's so much power friendly and cool on a new node, why the hell does it need 3 fans where my power hungry GTX 980 runs very quiet with just two? How long is this thing anyway!? Or are they really aiming at absolute silence and they've just gone bonkers with the cooler?

I disagree with you - there never will be too quiet card (under load)... if in a system other components are louder than a GPU under load (wich might be case for many if they have latest gen cards coupled with crappy CPU coolers, PSUs and stock case fans) - then those other components could and should be changed for quiter ones and no preformance should be sacrifised by doing so... speaking about preformance sacrifice if cooler is not sufficient enough - "1080 thermal throtteling".... so yes - I welcome 2.5 slot coolers with 3 fans even for less power hungry cards.

FRAGaLOTthe Strix 980 ti had 3 fans. And if you've been following the topic of how the Founder Edition (reference) thermal throttles using it's single blower design, so it really needs 3 fans.

Its actually not so much the power, sure TDP is lower , but due to the node shrink it is much more focused as the GPU has MORE cores and transistors than a 980 but is still much smaller, therefore its more heat in a smaller space, which pushes temps up much, much faster :) the 3 fan/3slot cards will be nice, and even if it is cool, you get the bonus of silence. I look forward to the glaax HOF cards :D

Does anyone have experience with their coolers?

How do they compare to an Arctic Accelero Xtreme noise wise?

FRAGaLOTthe Strix 980 ti had 3 fans. And if you've been following the topic of how the Founder Edition (reference) thermal throttles using it's single blower design, so it really needs 3 fans.

So, GTX 1080Ti will need 4 or 5 fans?

techy1I disagree with you - there never will be too quiet card (under load)... if in a system other components are louder than a GPU under load (wich might be case for many if they have latest gen cards coupled with crappy CPU coolers, PSUs and stock case fans) - then those other components could and should be changed for quiter ones and no preformance should be sacrifised by doing so... speaking about preformance sacrifice if cooler is not sufficient enough - "1080 thermal throtteling".... so yes - I welcome 2.5 slot coolers with 3 fans even for less power hungry cards.

That's not true. As someone who has been building tiny powerful systems, I can tell you it is possible. But requires a lot of work and testing to create a fan profile and temperature parameters that create silent graphic card. But vendors for obvious reasons tend to do it very conservatively and you end up with loud graphic cards. I've had WindForce 3X HD7950 and it was stupendously loud for such a huge cooler with 3 fans. It ramped up RPM just to be way cooler than it needed to be. But after tweaking the fan curve, it became nicely quiet while still under reasonable temperature. My current Strix GTX 980 is a lot better, though it still has some reserve in there.

I don't think there is any easy solution for reference coolers. They are on the limit of their capability. They really need to figure out something new. We need something new like heatpipes were to regular copper/aluminium coolers. I wonder if it's possible to create a vapor chamber that has heatpipes out directly, spreading heat faster from tiny surfaces than vapor chamber and heatpipes and fins separated.

RejZoROk, if it's so much power friendly and cool on a new node, why the hell does it need 3 fans where my power hungry GTX 980 runs very quiet with just two? How long is this thing anyway!? Or are they really aiming at absolute silence and they've just gone bonkers with the cooler?

The Strix line are about silence, hence the newer models using a more efficient triple fan solution, more fans on a wider heatsink means less airflow required compared to a 2 fans spread out over a thicker/narrower heatsink. Less airflow required = less noise generated. Also the fans are optimized for silence (as opposed to the ones they put on the Matrix which are optimized for performance).

more fans running slower generate less noise than less fans running faster.. i cant see as this card needs three but an extra one wont do any harm.. :)

the reference single blower type fan dumps the heat out of the back of the case.. the multiple fan designs dont.. but will make less noise.. win some lose some..

none of these new cards should have cooling problems.. they all use less power than the old ones..

trog

I got an email today full of promotional stuff, including a blurb about the GTX1080, announcing it is arriving soon etc at a local retailer.
Trouble is they didn't have any details on the card and gullible people most likely will believe the hype written in it saying it has up to 3X the performance, but no disclaimer saying what that claim is based on.

TheDeeGeeDoes anyone have experience with their coolers?

How do they compare to an Arctic Accelero Xtreme noise wise?

Accelero Extreme keeps gpu under 70c while whisper quiet. Strix cooler keeps it under 79c while you can hear fans loud(it won't annoy buy still loud conpared to Xtreme IV. I testet it 980ti oc 1480mhz & 1.212v.

Good luck with their RMA process for those who decide to chance it

trog100none of these new cards should have cooling problems.. they all use less power than the old ones..

See post 8 for why this is happening on the reference blower... 7.2B transistors in a 314mm die. Versus 8B transistors in 601mm die in the 980ti.

FreedomEclipseGood luck with their RMA process for those who decide to chance it

do people expect to have to go though an RMA process.. is the stuff we buy that unreliable or do some folks just f-ck stuff up and still expect to RMA it.. :)

i might be lucky but most of the stuff i buy from reputable sellers seems to work.. unless i do f-ck it up which isnt totally unknown.. he he

trog

unless you have no idea how to handle or have bad luck either but is not easy to destroy these monsters. i changed my cooler at least 20x times on 780 sc acx and still worked like first day. aftermarket coolers are not for warranty freaks that for sure.

trog100more fans running slower generate less noise than less fans running faster.. i cant see as this card needs three but an extra one wont do any harm.. :)

the reference single blower type fan dumps the heat out of the back of the case.. the multiple fan designs dont.. but will make less noise.. win some lose some..

none of these new cards should have cooling problems.. they all use less power than the old ones..

trog

I'm still not sure why a 2-3 fan solution can't be made into a blower type as well. It's probably not going to be as effective a classical blower (since the air flow is not encased as well), but it would still be way better than leaving the air inside the case.
Current solution aren't bad either, I haven;t had a temp problem in years. But the engineer in me would like to know what's the technical limitation.

bugI'm still not sure why a 2-3 fan solution can't be made into a blower type as well. It's probably not going to be as effective a classical blower (since the air flow is not encased as well), but it would still be way better than leaving the air inside the case.
Current solution aren't bad either, I haven;t had a temp problem in years. But the engineer in me would like to know what's the technical limitation.

Not enough exhaust area to allow proper flow of air out of the GPU. That back plate is very small when we're talking 3 fans worth of air trying to get through there. You're more likely to bake the card with that type of design.

how much is the damn thing :banghead:

ERazerhow much is the damn thing :banghead:

Tell me where are you, so we can give you +50% :)))))))

ERazerhow much is the damn thing :banghead:

too f-cking much.. :)

trog

bugI'm still not sure why a 2-3 fan solution can't be made into a blower type as well. It's probably not going to be as effective a classical blower (since the air flow is not encased as well), but it would still be way better than leaving the air inside the case.
Current solution aren't bad either, I haven;t had a temp problem in years. But the engineer in me would like to know what's the technical limitation.

i think its just the basic design of the leaf blower type fan.. the fins are long and full height and the single fan pumps air though them.. making the fins higher with a taller more powerfull blower would work better than two fans.. one fan would be directly in the path of the other fan and would take up cooling fin space..

with top down blowers the entire card area can be taken up with fans.. i do recon they are for show as much as they are for cooling.. in theory with less power usage the new cards could be smaller (have less fans) than the old ones.. they dont kind of look that way though.. all those fans say power.. he he

trog

trog100... i do recon they are for show as much as they are for cooling.. in theory with less power usage the new cards could be smaller (have less fans) than the old ones.. they dont kind of look that way though.. all those fans say power.. he he

trog

All those fans say heat issues, power is limited.

ERazerhow much is the damn thing :banghead:

trog100too f-cking much.. :)

trog

$620 for stock clocked ROG Strix, $640 for overclocked ROG Strix. Available June 4.