Wednesday, April 4th 2018

The Ncore V1 is the World's First Naked Die Cooling Waterblock for LGA1151 CPUs

The world's first waterblock designed for naked die cooling throws years of conventional wisdom out of the window. It features six unique patentable features including its "in-frame" mounting mechanism. The man behind NUDEcnc, Arek Tobiszewski has started this Kickstarter campaign in order to get a professional CNC machine, which will enable this inventor to deliver Ncore and other cool projects to the audience. He has been brave enough to send the Ncore for a review to Kyle Bennett from HardOcp; Linus tech tips; buildzoid, and Techlipton. Some of the reviews are already up, and are very promising.
Ncore is still a prototype but Arek is promising unique features like
  • Designed for naked die cooling (No HIS in the way)
  • Water 20x closer to the CPU
  • True adjustable waterflow
  • 3d watercooling
  • Money saving thermals
  • Noise reduction
  • Independent floating fixture
  • Single part 12sec installation, no tools required
  • Deigned as a delidding tool V1D
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30 Comments on The Ncore V1 is the World's First Naked Die Cooling Waterblock for LGA1151 CPUs

#1
hyp36rmax
EK has done this in the past with modified mounting hardware working with their existing cpu blocks. Definitely not a new concept. This looks to be tailored specifically for direct die cooling. curious to see if there's any additional performance benefits of this block compared to a universal block with specific mounting hardware.
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#2
Bruno Vieira
If they are adding a IHS on top of the die, it shouldn't be a lot of difference in temps (dah, there is another IHS on top of the cpu).

And I wanna see Buildzoid ramble about this one
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#3
hyp36rmax
Bruno VieiraIf they are adding a IHS on top of the die, it shouldn't be a lot of difference in temps (dah, there is another IHS on top of the cpu).

And I wanna see Buildzoid ramble about this one
No IHS involved in this block at all. Literally direct die
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#4
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Bruno VieiraIf they are adding a IHS on top of the die, it shouldn't be a lot of difference in temps (dah, there is another IHS on top of the cpu).

And I wanna see Buildzoid ramble about this one
The block will replace the stock IHS, ie the top of the "IHS" will have the cooling fins. Also it slides right into the standard mounting system, quite nice setup on paper.
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#5
Cybrnook2002
Bruno VieiraIf they are adding a IHS on top of the die, it shouldn't be a lot of difference in temps (dah, there is another IHS on top of the cpu)
The cold plate? Cold plates not the same as an IHS. It's the only barrier between you and liquid. It's needed to maintain temps and draw your heat out.
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#6
delshay
One thing that always concern me with Direct Die on modern CPUs, is mounting pressure. Get this wrong & over time CPU will have problems, but this product has already taken this into account.
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#7
Disparia
Glad they added the part about 1151 as I built a naked water cooler back in '96 for my Socket 7 system. Glued it directly to my Pentium 75 ;)
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#9
buildzoid
I have one for testing:
Not sure when I will be done with testing though.
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#10
MyTechAddiction
do we really need this to cool some 200 w monster?
if not i say what we have now will suffice.
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#11
nickbaldwin86
I will buy one.... why not? I could use 2 more degrees cooler. haha
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#12
delshay
nickbaldwin86I will buy one.... why not? I could use 2 more degrees cooler. haha
You should get more than that with Liquid Metal Compound.
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#13
nickbaldwin86
delshayYou should get more than that with Liquid Metal Compound.
I have a delidded LMC with LMC between IHS and water block... #liquidmetalcompoundallthethings

I would love to see how many degrees I can drop with this block, would be amazing to see but my system rarely gets over 60c on full load

5 degrees seems like a stretch but send me one and I will put it to the test ;)
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#14
dj-electric
Its a big shame this product is so ugly....
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#15
delshay
JizzlerGlad they added the part about 1151 as I built a naked water cooler back in '96 for my Socket 7 system. Glued it directly to my Pentium 75 ;)
I have been running my classic PC with IHS directly solder to the heatsink for almost two years. I can crank the voltage all the way upto 11 o'clock & it will still not pass 48c (air cooled), Liquid Metal Compound.

Remember, you have just eliminated one thermal barrier. That's the IHS to the cooling plate, it's now all-in-one with this product, this is more or less what I have.
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#16
erixx
Very steampunk looks, directly in vein for the kids.
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#17
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
buildzoidI have one for testing:
Not sure when I will be done with testing though.
Well how is it?
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#19
Caring1
"3D watercooling" What's everyone else selling, a 2D drawing on paper? :laugh:
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#20
delshay
nickbaldwin86I have a delidded LMC with LMC between IHS and water block... #liquidmetalcompoundallthethings

I would love to see how many degrees I can drop with this block, would be amazing to see but my system rarely gets over 60c on full load

5 degrees seems like a stretch but send me one and I will put it to the test ;)
The ultimate cooler, would be a product like this that's able to be soldered to the die. Now you never need thermal paste/compound, it will become obsolete. This is my vision & my goal when I started soldering IHS to heatsink.
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#21
evernessince
delshayThe ultimate cooler, would be a product like this that's able to be soldered to the die. Now you never need thermal paste/compound, it will become obsolete. This is my vision & my goal when I started soldering IHS to heatsink.
Let's leave soldering anything to the professionals. Aftermarket solutions that require soldering to the die is just asking for trouble.
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#22
Basard
evernessinceLet's leave soldering anything to the professionals. Aftermarket solutions that require soldering to the die is just asking for trouble.
I could see companies offering something like that. Like a Saleen Mustang, or AMG Merc! I think people would buy.
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#23
peche
Thermaltake fanboy
Interesting to see this in this era, but anyways, things always change and enthusiasts never stop, direct die cooling is something extreme, temps will be much lower, liquid metal or regular paste will shown both great temps, i like the idea.
hyp36rmaxEK has done this in the past with modified mounting hardware working with their existing cpu blocks. Definitely not a new concept. This looks to be tailored specifically for direct die cooling. curious to see if there's any additional performance benefits of this block compared to a universal block with specific mounting hardware.
will be much, but much difference, also it is designed for direct die cooling....
MyTechAddictiondo we really need this to cool some 200 w monster?
if not i say what we have now will suffice.
again, this is not all people arround PC & PC gaming, i wonder this is meant for high end enthusiasts, people that OC a lot, on a specific scenario, where 1 or 5 C and some Volts more or less could be the ideal recipe of a wonder OC, that kind of people or enthusiasts,
evernessinceLet's leave soldering anything to the professionals. Aftermarket solutions that require soldering to the die is just asking for trouble.
Totally, mounting pressure on re-soldered CPU's, also the glue to paste back IHS when soldering back, troubles on the go is what that idea screams...
BasardI could see companies offering something like that. Like a Saleen Mustang, or AMG Merc! I think people would buy.
Welcome to 2018, for some time ago some people trust places like: Silicon Lottery, is one like that, processors able to reach certain clocks at certain voltages and options, is something like you mention, or duno if you expect brembo brakes, leather bucket seats and so for a processor,

Regards,
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#24
bogami
Well done! nice touch The assembly tool is also a part of liquid cooling.
I have removed the heat dispenser already on the sendy brige i72600k and also on i73770k , and for the same years I have been cooling the same way. CPU bend is the biggest problem, and with a spacer this is only partially solved , I propose a minimal force attached processor to the bay, as the plastic housing can easily be deformed.
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#25
Basard
pecheWelcome to 2018, for some time ago some people trust places like: Silicon Lottery, is one like that, processors able to reach certain clocks at certain voltages and options, is something like you mention, or duno if you expect brembo brakes, leather bucket seats and so for a processor,
I've known about SL for a while now.... but do they offer soldered heat spreaders and leather trim?
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