This is another example of why one shouldn't buy Early Access games from SJW pandering studios. They're just not that good at what they do. This a real shame because Battlefield used to be an awesome franchise.

Eric3988This is another example of why one shouldn't buy Early Access games from SJW pandering studios. They're just not that good at what they do. This a real shame because Battlefield used to be an awesome franchise.

The game has been out of Early Access for awhile and delaying an update to fix some serious bugs is an example of what a studio should do irrespective of whether or not it tries to be PC. I don't care that there are women in the game, and they're kinda hot anyway. After all, maps and mechanics are vastly more important than the historically inaccurate inclusion of women on the front lines. Maps, game mechanics, and content is what determines the game's success, and BFV is off to a great start. Men's face, women's faces.... they're just faces to shoot off in multiplayer.

Fierce GuppyThe game has been out of Early Access for awhile and delaying an update to fix some serious bugs is an example of what a studio should do irrespective of whether or not it tries to be PC. I don't care that there are women in the game, and they're kinda hot anyway. After all, maps and mechanics are vastly more important than the historically inaccurate inclusion of women on the front lines. Maps, game mechanics, and content is what determines the game's success, and BFV is off to a great start. Men's face, women's faces.... they're just faces to shoot off in multiplayer.

Its a lot deeper than that sadly. They wrote the brave men who took part in some of WWII's operations out of their own story and replaced them with women. Normally a single woman. A woman that falls off a bridge into freezing water, overpowers a soldier that is caught off guard at an outpost while soaking wet and suffering hyperthermia then going on to single handedly blowing up a nazi factory that was making a component for nukes -- Operation Gunnerside

This is one of the more notable 'inaccuracies' in the game. There are probably a few more.

Once the price starts getting heavily discounted in the UK, only then will i consider picking it up

Inaccuracies...... game.

Its not a sim, boys. :)

EarthDogInaccuracies...... game.

Its not a sim, boys. :)

this is a dumb statement. Yes youre right, its not a sim. but a sim could also be inaccurate. Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen are space sims but are sorta based on a fictional or alternate reality.

Why take real life events and rewrite them if you werent going to portray it accurately anyway? Why not just re-write the whole thing into an alternate reality where Nazi Germany won the war and the entire world was oppressed but someone found unicorns on the dark side of the moon and used them as a tool to fight back?

Battlefield has always been about staying true to some sort of lore. Its what people wanted more of from BF1 war stories but to write the brave people out of actual events that happened the way they did to panda towards women and SJWs?? Its like shitting on someone's grave.

If they weaved the game into an alternate reality. Nobody would bad an eyelid, but they didn't.

A sim INTENDS to be more accurate as it SIMULATES an activity. This is not a SIM.

FreedomEclipseWhy take real life events and rewrite them if you werent going to portray it accurately anyway?

I don't know... it is their story.

As dumb as you feel my statement is, I also think its 'dumb' to expect accuracy out of a video game that isn't intended to do so. You said it yourself, its a story. I'm sorry they didn't write it the way you wanted and cucked/soy boy'd it up.

EarthDogA sim INTENDS to be more accurate as it SIMULATES an activity. This is not a SIM.


I don't know... it is their story.

As dumb as you feel my statement is, I also think its 'dumb' to expect accuracy out of a video game that isn't intended to do so. You said it yourself, its a story. I'm sorry they didn't write it the way you wanted and cucked/soy boy'd it up.

Inaccuracies aside, this seems one plot change the community doesn't particularly enjoy. Still, it's not as bad as some portray it to be. We could have been playing Bugs Bunny instead.

Can't win them all. :)

Fierce Guppythey're kinda hot anyway.

OMG.

You're lost. Totally

FreedomEclipsethis is a dumb statement. Yes youre right, its not a sim. but a sim could also be inaccurate. Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen are space sims but are sorta based on a fictional or alternate reality.

Why take real life events and rewrite them if you werent going to portray it accurately anyway? Why not just re-write the whole thing into an alternate reality where Nazi Germany won the war and the entire world was oppressed but someone found unicorns on the dark side of the moon and used them as a tool to fight back?

Battlefield has always been about staying true to some sort of lore. Its what people wanted more of from BF1 war stories but to write the brave people out of actual events that happened the way they did to panda towards women and SJWs?? Its like shitting on someone's grave.

If they weaved the game into an alternate reality. Nobody would bad an eyelid, but they didn't.

Have you seen "The Social Network"? Because it's about as accurate about "The Zucks'" life as you're describing here.

FreedomEclipseBattlefield has always been about staying true to some sort of lore. Its what people wanted more of from BF1 war stories but to write the brave people out of actual events that happened the way they did to panda towards women and SJWs?? Its like shitting on someone's grave.

Panda's have nothing to do with it. Besides, the often misused abbreviations aside - they didn't pander to anyone. They saw a large gaming market and felt, let's include them. It is odd how many boys like to play as girls in so many games yet when a girl wants to be a girl, it's an abomination of history. BF V is a game. It's designed to be fun and make money. It's really that simple. If you want nothing but absolute historical accuracy, you'll not find it in a AAA title. And again, if it's meant to be accurate, why have planes that can manoeuvre at 60mph across the sky? Or anything that isn't absolutely lifelike?

If you want to enjoy history, read a book. Don't play games for history lessons.

You people who say read a book or play a Sim are missing the point. Battlefield used to be based in reality, but now clearly isn't. If they marketed the game as alternate history, then this wouldn't be an issue. However, seeing as they present the game as based in history and reality, there are far too many contradictions to take it seriously. Combine this with the fact the game is as bug ridden as ever, there is no reason to applaud a turd of a game as this one.

Perfect is an enemy of good. ;)

the54thvoidPanda's have nothing to do with it. Besides, the often misused abbreviations aside - they didn't pander to anyone. They saw a large gaming market and felt, let's include them. It is odd how many boys like to play as girls in so many games yet when a girl wants to be a girl, it's an abomination of history. BF V is a game. It's designed to be fun and make money. It's really that simple. If you want nothing but absolute historical accuracy, you'll not find it in a AAA title. And again, if it's meant to be accurate, why have planes that can manoeuvre at 60mph across the sky? Or anything that isn't absolutely lifelike?

If you want to enjoy history, read a book. Don't play games for history lessons.

Making money aside, BFV sales are doing rather badly compared to the previous Battlefield releases.

I seriously can"t believe some of you care that there are women playiers in this game. It's insanity making the "it's not historical" comment. It's just a video game. Reading these comments made me facepalm so hard I fell out of my chair.

Eric3988You people who say read a book or play a Sim are missing the point. Battlefield used to be based in reality, but now clearly isn't. If they marketed the game as alternate history, then this wouldn't be an issue. However, seeing as they present the game as based in history and reality, there are far too many contradictions to take it seriously. Combine this with the fact the game is as bug ridden as ever, there is no reason to applaud a turd of a game as this one.

Yes, reality. You know hit points, carrying multiple weapons and bullets in your magic pocket, running with near infinite stamina, simulated war that even a first year West Point grad would not attempt. Yeah - reality.

It is a game. It takes reality as a jumping point not its main intent. Its main intent is to entertain. Not all. Just some.

I assume you are old enough to understand the difference between a movie and news?

MarquiseAkeYes, reality. You know hit points, carrying multiple weapons and bullets in your magic pocket, running with near infinite stamina, simulated war that even a first year West Point grad would not attempt. Yeah - reality.

It is a game. It takes reality as a jumping point not its main intent. Its main intent is to entertain. Not all. Just some.

I assume you are old enough to understand the difference between a movie and news?

My point of view is from someone who has played pretty much every Battlefield release - In most of them if not all, there was no infinite stamina.

Ive watched the game slowly degenerate into such a shit bucket of a mess. The game stuck to some form or level of realism (not counting BF:2142) but all that has been corroded away by questionable designs, ideals and ideas that have been implemented into the game. Not to mention the PR headaches on the lead up to its release with Patrick Soderlund and some other DICE/EA executive shitting on the BF community.

yes it was annoying but I wasnt mad about the females in the game thing, but its the way they implemented them to cater towards the SJW community and Soderlund's 6year old daughter who's not even old enough to play the damn game but he wants to make a game that she can play too without questioning why she cant be a female in it.....


If you want to hear a 45min rant about what is wrong with the game then this video says it all....


I share this guys opinions on the game.


If they wanted to f**k around with the franchise like this then they should of just made it an entirely different game. Dont put it in with the Battlefield Universe/franchise.


EA is suffering and that can only be a good thing because as a gaming community we stood up and said that we wont tolerate their bullshit anymore.... That still wont stop EA paying off reviewers with deep ties to the industry to ignore the customers issues they have with the game and leave a gleaming review when it is actually a steaming pile of poo... Hell for the price charged for the game. youre not even getting the full game. you are being charged full price for an unfinished product...

The game is selling badly so Its been discounted now though.

While you might enjoy the game. there are many of us that have played all if not most of the Battlefield titles and wont touch this steaming pile of poo.

This stupid SJW vs anti-SJW is dumb.

Making a game is an art form like movies and books and such.

If the themes of the maker upsets you don't play the game. No one tells Ayn Rand that she should write a more liberal version of Atlas Shrugged.
Or Martin Scorsese should less romantic comedies because that is what is popular.
Nobody ever see it the other way. I mean is Lara Croft more realistic than a female soldier in BF? There is no good answer to that. You know why???? Both are games!!!

People lost their shit when they find out Metroid was a woman. Now its just meh.

FreedomEclipseMy point of view is from someone who has played pretty much every Battlefield release - In most of them if not all, there was no infinite stamina.

Ive watched the game slowly degenerate into such a shit bucket of a mess. The game stuck to some form or level of realism (not counting BF:2142) but all that has been corroded away by questionable designs, ideals and ideas that have been implemented into the game. Not to mention the PR headaches on the lead up to its release with Patrick Soderlund and some other DICE/EA executive shitting on the BF community.

yes it was annoying but I wasnt mad about the females in the game thing, but its the way they implemented them to cater towards the SJW community and Soderlund's 6year old daughter who's not even old enough to play the damn game but he wants to make a game that she can play too without questioning why she cant be a female in it.....


If you want to hear a 45min rant about what is wrong with the game then this video says it all....

I share this guys opinions on the game.


If they wanted to f**k around with the franchise like this then they should of just made it an entirely different game. Dont put it in with the Battlefield Universe/franchise.


EA is suffering and that can only be a good thing because as a gaming community we stood up and said that we wont tolerate their bullshit anymore.... That still wont stop EA paying off reviewers with deep ties to the industry to ignore the customers issues they have with the game and leave a gleaming review when it is actually a steaming pile of poo... Hell for the price charged for the game. youre not even getting the full game. you are being charged full price for an unfinished product...

The game is selling badly so Its been discounted now though.

While you might enjoy the game. there are many of us that have played all if not most of the Battlefield titles and wont touch this steaming pile of poo.

MarquiseAkeThis stupid SJW vs anti-SJW is dumb.

Blame EA/DICE for putting it into their game. Nobody cared but soderland wanted this year to be a year to break the mold and reach out because he felt like females werent being represented in games.... Now that the game is out no SJWs cared to buy the game anyway.

MarquiseAkeMaking a game is an art form like movies and books and such.

Normally yes. but did you know that Activision and Bethesda have been copying and pasting games like call of duty, Fallout, Skyrim, oblivion for years if not a complete decade??? BF5 is a copy paste of BF1 which in a small part is a copy paste of Battlefront which in a small part is a copy paste of a few maps in BF4 but with a few tweaks under the hood. Fifa is a copy and paste. Madden is a copy paste, NFL, NBA -- all sports games by EA have been more or less a copy paste. They just update the graphics once in a while but mainly update the database which holds the names of all the players

The days you speak of are long gone. Now its about how little effort they can put in for maximum profit -- this doesnt lead to a great game. People get tired of it.

MarquiseAkeIf the themes of the maker upsets you don't play the game.

I havent touched the game

MarquiseAkeNobody ever see it the other way. I mean is Lara Croft more realistic than a female soldier in BF? There is no good answer to that. You know why???? Both are games!!!

Actually yes there is. She is. You've forgotten the time when she had oversized polygon boobs and part of the internet was mad because Edios was sexualising women so they took her boobs away.

MarquiseAkePeople lost their shit when they find out Metroid was a woman. Now its just meh.

Not me, I didnt really care. I didnt care that they took lara croft's boobs away either, Ive played a few tomb raider games but I never saw the appeal.

MarquiseAkeThis stupid SJW vs anti-SJW is dumb.

Making a game is an art form like movies and books and such.

If the themes of the maker upsets you don't play the game. No one tells Ayn Rand that she should write a more liberal version of Atlas Shrugged.
Or Martin Scorsese should less romantic comedies because that is what is popular.
Nobody ever see it the other way. I mean is Lara Croft more realistic than a female soldier in BF? There is no good answer to that. You know why???? Both are games!!!

People lost their shit when they find out Metroid was a woman. Now its just meh.

I usually dont mind about this whole diversity thing (as long they dont make up poor writing by virtue signaling and throwing it in our face) but you should watch this
anyway Im avoiding this BF either way because it plays more like a CoD than a Battlefield, its gameplay has been like this since BF3. for those that prefer this type of game-play, good for you, you get to enjoy.

I play both BLOPS4 and BF V and they feel NOTHING alike to me.

FreedomEclipseMy point of view is from someone who has played pretty much every Battlefield release - In most of them if not all, there was no infinite stamina.

Ive watched the game slowly degenerate into such a shit bucket of a mess. The game stuck to some form or level of realism (not counting BF:2142) but all that has been corroded away by questionable designs, ideals and ideas that have been implemented into the game. Not to mention the PR headaches on the lead up to its release with Patrick Soderlund and some other DICE/EA executive shitting on the BF community.

yes it was annoying but I wasnt mad about the females in the game thing, but its the way they implemented them to cater towards the SJW community and Soderlund's 6year old daughter who's not even old enough to play the damn game but he wants to make a game that she can play too without questioning why she cant be a female in it.....


If you want to hear a 45min rant about what is wrong with the game then this video says it all....

I share this guys opinions on the game.


If they wanted to f**k around with the franchise like this then they should of just made it an entirely different game. Dont put it in with the Battlefield Universe/franchise.


EA is suffering and that can only be a good thing because as a gaming community we stood up and said that we wont tolerate their bullshit anymore.... That still wont stop EA paying off reviewers with deep ties to the industry to ignore the customers issues they have with the game and leave a gleaming review when it is actually a steaming pile of poo... Hell for the price charged for the game. youre not even getting the full game. you are being charged full price for an unfinished product...

The game is selling badly so Its been discounted now though.

While you might enjoy the game. there are many of us that have played all if not most of the Battlefield titles and wont touch this steaming pile of poo.

I have also played BF for many years through most of the releases but I have a different view.
The developers didn't force an agenda. They recognised that gaming has become mainstream and women need to be represented to feel included. It was only when some people started making a lot of noise about the inclusion of women that they said anything about it. People saying dumb things like it 'dishonored WW2 vets' with a straight face while talking about a GAME based on real life trauma, suffering and self sacrifice.

When people say its only about the accuracy its the dumbest thing I've ever heard because I've never seen anyone take a 50cal round and keep running or heard of any WW2 red dot sights but that must be OK some how? So things that never happened or are impossible are OK but women being included who did serve and did fight in many roles, often seeing more direct action than many males, including with the russian army and the french resistance are not. Right.

Its painfully transparent that some people just don't want women intruding into their precious boys only domain or at least don't want them made welcome. Promoting that view widely is a huge mistake and all of us should be shouting it down. The cost involved in producing modern games has skyrocketed and with that comes far more oversight including maximising the audience. If it is percieved that this genre or gaming in general is largely populated by women hating alt right wierdos then the money will stop. Its really that simple.

The apparent bad reception of the game has been siezed on by some of these people as vindication that they were right, completely ignoring all the other changes that have been made to the game and what has been happening to gaming in general. Fashions and taste changes, which is why there is going to be a tacked on 'Battle Royal' mode. That seems like a pretty obvious sign that the developers saw a changing gaming landscape that has a lot to do with what is happening. The women thing is just a distraction that is being used by the Alt right and their supporters for politics, not by the developers. Developers want to make money, not politics.

JakusonfireDevelopers want to make money

and they currently arent making money




They put their money on the wrong horse with BF5 and lost. Like i said, I dont really care that women are in the game but its the way they were implement and written into it.

You may have your opinion but BF5 was just a few more nails in the coffin for EA after how they ruined battlefront and a host of other titles. Im from the camp that does not agree with how the game turned out so will not touch it. You are free to enjoy it as much as you wish though.