Huh. Other than the lack of ventilation at the bottom looks pretty good to me.

We're desperate for some new cases at the store. Nothing good has come out in the last few years at a reasonable price outside the Corsair 4000D. Would really like micro atx and mini ITX versions of the 4000D already.

claesHuh. Other than the lack of ventilation at the bottom looks pretty good to me.

The 1st and 4th look airflow restricted with those solid front panels, the other two look much better. I do like the 3rd one the most, but without seeing internals or even a review I'll have to say 'meh', for now.

claesHuh. Other than the lack of ventilation at the bottom looks pretty good to me.

Bottom looks quite open also front IO is decent, I want to see availability as these look like decent cases.


Edit: looked at spec and it says this case has space for 4x3.5" drives which is impressive.

m.e.h...

moar same ole same same lame lame once AGAIN......

And as usual, NO C-NO BUY-NO EXCUSES... especially for $150.... :(

bonehead123m.e.h...

moar same ole same same lame lame once AGAIN......

And as usual, NO C-NO BUY-NO EXCUSES... especially for $150.... :(

According to manual something called "Premium" model does have USB C 10Gbps interface.

DeathtoGnomesThe 1st and 4th look airflow restricted with those solid front panels.

It's not a front-to-back design - the primary airflow is intake through the bottom and exhausted out of the top. The front panel being able to breathe at all is just a bonus that lets you add additional radiators beyond what is commonly used.

bonehead123m.e.h...

moar same ole same same lame lame once AGAIN......

And as usual, NO C-NO BUY-NO EXCUSES... especially for $150.... :(

What's this then?

Chrispy_It's not a front-to-back design - the primary airflow is intake through the bottom and exhausted out of the top.

its doesnt say that tho nor does it hint at that with the pics.

DeathtoGnomesits doesnt say that tho nor does it hint at that with the pics.

Try Post #5 in this thread.

Chrispy_Try Post #5 in this thread.

ya? that was AFTER I posted. :shadedshu:

DeathtoGnomesya? that was AFTER I posted. :shadedshu:

"after"

That's why his unedited post is above yours in the thread with a timestamp 15 minutes earlier, I guess?

Isn't it easier to just admit you missed it, rather than blaming other people? It's an honest mistake that impacted nobody.

Chrispy_"after"

That's why his unedited post is above yours in the thread with a timestamp 15 minutes earlier, I guess?

Isn't it easier to just admit you missed it, rather than blaming other people? It's an honest mistake that impacted nobody.

Who is blaming people? I guess I need such things spelled out in the PR, it wasnt. I assumed, from that post, the bottom was additional air not the main air inlet, as with most cases that come across TPU.

So make up your mind, did you mean #5 or #1 when you replied to me?

DeathtoGnomesWho is blaming people? I guess I need such things spelled out in the PR, it wasnt. I assumed, from that post, the bottom was additional air not the main air inlet, as with most cases that come across TPU.

So make up your mind, did you mean #5 or #1 when you replied to me?

I said "Try post #5 in this thread". That's literally all I typed - there is no ambiguity there at all.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt - post #1 or #5 - what does it matter? They were both up on the forum before your post (#6)

These are nice cases. I like them all except the one with the glass front. No case is without it's issues. My current one is a white Fractal Design Meshify C. It's a good case, but doesn't perform as well as I thought, so I added a second, small exhaust fan at the rear bottom of the case.

Looks ok to me.

Wait.... I/O at the top?? On a full ATX case? Why? And why even have the "front" panel? And all the cables going out of that one hole at the top of the back...:kookoo:

Count von SchwalbeWait.... I/O at the top?? On a full ATX case? Why? And why even have the "front" panel? And all the cables going out of that one hole at the top of the back...:kookoo:

Pretty common design; Works surprisingly well if your tower is on the floor and all of your hardware is air-cooled.

All of the cables coming out of one point actually makes a surprising amount of sense when you consider that all of the cables coming out of multiple points at the back of the case makes absolutely no sense, from a cable-management perspective ;)

Ok fair enough. If you put it on the floor.

I guess I am too cheap to look at those fancy cases:fear:

I buy fancy cases for myself because they are relatively cheap compared to other things in the build and last you through several builds.

They're definitely unnecessary, but so are many things in the premium market ;)

Chrispy_I buy fancy cases for myself because they are relatively cheap compared to other things in the build and last you through several builds.

They're definitely unnecessary, but so are many things in the premium market ;)

My case was not cheap, but you are not going to spend over £1500 on your build and put it in a £50 case are you seriously.

TiggerMy case was not cheap, but you are not going to spend over £1500 on your build and put it in a £50 case are you seriously.

There are absolutely loads of people who do just that.

You can pickup a 4000D for £60 right now and that wouldn't look out of place with a £1000 custom water loop, 12900K, and 3090FE sat inside it.

Garbage-tier CIT cases at £20 should be avoided for all but the most low-budget builds, but £50 isn't far off the £60-90 range where most of the decent midrange cases sit these days.

TiggerMy case was not cheap, but you are not going to spend over £1500 on your build and put it in a £50 case are you seriously.

Sometimes it makes sense... in a world where even expensive cases can have critical design flaws that give them subpar airflow performance - churned out designs with overstated price tags, esoteric placement decisions that make certain builds more challenging than necessary, or even just weird misses on very simple, staple features. There's not that much to them, compared to most other components in a build. Sometimes a simple case with good airflow is just all that you need, even with expensive components inside. You don't even need to spend triple digits for that. If all it does is sit in a room for 5 years and your stuff stays cool and in place, it's probably fine. And perhaps that's how you went for that extra tier with your GPU and broke past another bottleneck in your system that another $200 towards a case wouldn't do for you. The time when paying more makes sense is for less common builds with weird form-factors. There you want something more purpose-built, as it may be the difference between components being viable or not. Not so much the case at ATX scale. Otherwise, you're just kinda paying more for something that's perhaps nicer looking with a better build experience. There are midrange cases that look and perform great too, though.

I'm more side-eyed at PSU investments in that range. Cheap big-watt stuff is less common now, but that's where cheaping-out gets serious in my book. I think if you want to run a beefcake of a sleeper build with an RTX3090 and the hottest new Intel in a friggin bored out vintage Dell case, I kinda have more respect for you than the guy who just bought an O11 variant, bought a more basic PSU in exchange, and called it a day. I don't assume that someone rigging or using oddly 'rudimentary' stuff where you wouldn't usually expect isn't thinking it through. Sometimes, it's the opposite. You have to think it through to make those decisions work. Calculated compromise - avoiding some superfluous stuff to max the more important areas for that build. Plenty of people out there ONLY build this way and I wouldn't say their systems are nessesarily bad or especially 'not serious.' If anything it takes more skill, knowledge, and willingness to get in deeper to have a good min-max style build.

Count von SchwalbeWait.... I/O at the top?? On a full ATX case? Why? And why even have the "front" panel? And all the cables going out of that one hole at the top of the back...:kookoo:

My case is that way, no problems reaching it, many put the towers on the floor anyway. I have mine on the desk

I will say though this case shown here is boring

eidairaman1My case is that way, no problems reaching it, many put the towers on the floor anyway. I have mine on the desk

I will say though this case shown here is boring

Wasn't thinking about problems reaching it, but that the I/O board on the motherboard kind of takes away the purpose of the front panel. If there is no cover for the top, it would be ugly at best, and a thick or stiff cable could have issues under it. My $.02 only, of course.

Count von SchwalbeWasn't thinking about problems reaching it, but that the I/O board on the motherboard kind of takes away the purpose of the front panel. If there is no cover for the top, it would be ugly at best, and a thick or stiff cable could have issues under it. My $.02 only, of course.

I'm going to guess these are spring latches for what is presumably a vented or full-mesh top panel.

It looks like there's plenty of room for stiff cables with larger bend radius than is normal, but this design is incompatible with larger adapters. In saying that, the last time I encountered truly ridiculous adapters was on Quadros back before mDP became the standard for >4 display outputs on a GPU.