Friday, June 17th 2022
AMD "Phoenix Point" Zen 4 Mobile Processor Powered Up
An engineering sample of AMD's next-generation Ryzen "Phoenix Point" mobile processor has been powered up, and made its first appearance on the Geekbench user-database. "Phoenix Point" is a monolithic silicon mobile processor built on the TSMC N5 (5 nm EUV) process, featuring "Zen 4" CPU cores, and a significantly faster iGPU based on the RDNA3 graphics architecture; along with a DDR5/LPDDR5 memory interface, and PCI-Express Gen 5.0 capability. An engineering sample with an 8-core/16-thread CPU, with the OPN code "100-000000709-23_N," hit the radar. AMD could debut Ryzen "Phoenix Point" in the first quarter of 2023, possibly with an International CES announcement.
Sources:
BenchLeaks (Twitter), VideoCardz
30 Comments on AMD "Phoenix Point" Zen 4 Mobile Processor Powered Up
Hopefully the 5800X3D goes on sale when Zen 4 launches, I will just grab that instead.
On top of that, the desktop CPUs will have the graphics in the I/O chip since the shrink so again, I don't understand your frustration and your notion about limited resources for the Desktop ZEN4 CPUs.
same with intels trash cores and iGPU.
remove the iGPU, Display Controller and laptop cores and either reduce the price by a hundred bucks because the chip is half the size or make a lower clocked 12-16 core variant.
Even on the desktop, an IGP is nice as a backup. But yes, it could be a tiny part instead of these monsters that take up a third of the die and still can't play a proper game.
www.xmg.gg/en/xmg-apex-15-max/ The GPU in the Zen4 desktop CPU will have just enough power to show stuff on multiple displays and decode/encode videos. Not gaming material of any kind. Also, this is a business decision geared towards obtaining a larger market share.
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-4-ryzen-7000-technical-details/
it will be a harder sell with universal apus, but still demand is there
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6400-pci-express-30-scaling/
www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6500-xt-pci-express-scaling/29.html
13% less performance on a card, on a mobile part that is power constrained I would wager it would be more like single digit difference
PCi express 2.0 vs 3.0 vs 4.0 (RTX 3070 Ti) - YouTube
This is a card that is slightly faster than the fastest notebook GPU available. In some games like Forza the difference can be 15%, in many games they lie around 5-10%. Still this is performance lost.
The 6400 (50-55W) and 6500XT (100W) is a quite good source since they are actually mobile GPUs reused for desktop. The 10-15% gap translates into notebooks aswell since all cards running stock are powerconstraining. Watch GPU-z, powerlimit is always active. On my last notebook I had a 1070 with 115W powerlimit, perf cap reason was always powerlimit just like it is on my 3060ti now unless I run DLSS in 1080p and I sometimes become CPU-bound.
AMD improves also graphics and putting it into CPU for troubleshooting. It wont harm the CPU's performance so I like the idea.
Even if you made I/O die smaller, it would be still impossible to put another chiplet.
Problem with you is, you express what you would want which is not what market wants. 12-16 core chip in a laptop? I dont think that would make any sense.
Arrow Lake with 40/48 cores/threads as soon as 2024.
[SIZE=4]Intel Process Roadmap[/SIZE]
Raptor Lake
Sapphire Rapids
Emerald Rapids
Xe-HPG?
Nothing to do with this thread's topic which is mobile CPU.
40/48 configurations are good for up to 8 P-cores and 32 E-cores.
PCIe 4.0 vs. PCIe 3.0 GPU Benchmark | TechSpot