The older NUC options for both desktop and laptop had nvidia or amd, or back to skullcanyon yeah then intel. I get they want to push their own shit but it's not ready yet.

Well, they betta be REALLY, REALLY cheap, since they do NOT include an OS, m2, ram, or even a friggin power cord, according to that 2nd pic above...:(

W.t.F INTEL ?

bonehead123Well, they betta be REALLY, REALLY cheap, since they do NOT include an OS, m2, ram, or even a friggin power cord, according to that 2nd pic above...:(

W.t.F INTEL ?

Based on previous iterations, what you'll find on retail rebadged by adata, schenker, eluktronics, etc. include all that. You need to go look for niche enterprise retaillers to be able to buy the unbranded barebones Intel version.


Will they also refresh the "ultrabook" reference laptop with the 15w to 28w cpus? What about the Laptop elements that used the nuc elements module, there were a couple news about that when it released but never heard anything else about it

trsttteBased on previous iterations, what you'll find on retail rebadged by adata, schenker, eluktronics, etc. include all that. You need to go look for niche enterprise retaillers to be able to buy the unbranded barebones Intel version.


Will they also refresh the "ultrabook" reference laptop with the 15w to 28w cpus? What about the Laptop elements that used the nuc elements module, there were a couple news about that when it released but never heard anything else about it

Yep this is how it goes. These don't show up bare bones that often. It's usually sold through smaller makers so they can compete with larger companies.

230W adapter :eek:

Alder Country.

Okay. More like Actually Craptastic.

"Would you like some stutter with your 230W low settings gaming, sir? We have it in spades! Please do bring your own power cord!"

I guess the 13th gen laptop reference system will be 'Raptor Planet' :)

Vayra86Alder Country.

Okay. More like Actually Craptastic.

"Would you like some stutter with your 230W low settings gaming, sir? We have it in spades! Please do bring your own power cord!"

I wouldn't poo poo it just yet. intel might be assholes but their nuc line has always been extremely solid. They moved their nuc enthuisast over to their own GPUs as well. The past two were RTX 2060 and AMD Vega respectively and both did well. I doubt they'd move over their nuc platform unless they were confident.

TBH I'm interested in their desktop with their own GPU, the nuc 12 enthusiast.

SOAREVERSORI wouldn't poo poo it just yet. intel might be assholes but their nuc line has always been extremely solid. They moved their nuc enthuisast over to their own GPUs as well. The past two were RTX 2060 and AMD Vega respectively and both did well. I doubt they'd move over their nuc platform unless they were confident.

TBH I'm interested in their desktop with their own GPU, the nuc 12 enthusiast.

Yeah too bad they were totally not competitive on price and if you don't get a top end model, they're slow as molasses. (Like you pointed out, enthusiast level required)

I had one. Decent stuff indeed, well designed, but it really matters what chip you get; mine was a tad too slow I think.

Vayra86Yeah too bad they were totally not competitive on price and if you don't get a top end model, they're slow as molasses. (Like you pointed out, enthusiast level required)

I had one. Decent stuff indeed, well designed, but it really matters what chip you get; mine was a tad too slow I think.

They weren't? Compared to what?

At the "enthusiast" and "extreme" levels they sort of are. Compare the enthusiast NUCs to the similar gigabyte and zotac boxes that shipped with a GPU and you'll find the NUCs were cost competitive. They either cost the same, or slightly more for better features and build quality. The Phantom Canyon with an RTX 2060 actually shipped with the performance 2060 and not the gimped Q one and was an icelake CPU. To top it all off you could actually buy it at a time when you couldn't even buy an RTX 2060. The one with AMD Vega based graphics performed roughly on base with a GTX 1060 with the caveat of having an intel CPU, AMD GPU, and samsung direct PCI-bridge all on the same package which still remains something unheard of now.

IMHO the problem with them was (and still remains) that the majority of distributors do not sell them without forcing you to buy the memory and drives from them as well. And then the gouge the hell out of you on those. I rotated the Hades Canyon into HTPC duty when I got the Phantom Canyon and I'll rotate again when Serpent Canyon comes out. I've had nothing but good luck with them. I don't expect them to be a tower, just a little box that works!

bonehead123Well, they betta be REALLY, REALLY cheap, since they do NOT include an OS, m2, ram, or even a friggin power cord, according to that 2nd pic above...:(

W.t.F INTEL ?

whos they? and this laptop is massivly more powerful then a old ps5 now from 2020 so 75% of all pcs and 91% of all games are bottle necked to gpu no ocu this is nothing new for like 11 years

SOAREVERSORThey weren't? Compared to what?

At the "enthusiast" and "extreme" levels they sort of are. Compare the enthusiast NUCs to the similar gigabyte and zotac boxes that shipped with a GPU and you'll find the NUCs were cost competitive. They either cost the same, or slightly more for better features and build quality. The Phantom Canyon with an RTX 2060 actually shipped with the performance 2060 and not the gimped Q one and was an icelake CPU. To top it all off you could actually buy it at a time when you couldn't even buy an RTX 2060. The one with AMD Vega based graphics performed roughly on base with a GTX 1060 with the caveat of having an intel CPU, AMD GPU, and samsung direct PCI-bridge all on the same package which still remains something unheard of now.

IMHO the problem with them was (and still remains) that the majority of distributors do not sell them without forcing you to buy the memory and drives from them as well. And then the gouge the hell out of you on those. I rotated the Hades Canyon into HTPC duty when I got the Phantom Canyon and I'll rotate again when Serpent Canyon comes out. I've had nothing but good luck with them. I don't expect them to be a tower, just a little box that works!

You nearly won me over, you're definitely not wrong, its my perception of it.

Might opt for one as htpc when my current full atx hand-me-down finally dies. Its a 3570k, still blazing fast for its current purpose