Thursday, November 3rd 2022
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Performance Claims Extrapolated, Performs Within Striking Distance of RTX 4090
AMD on Thursday launched the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT RDNA3 graphics cards. With these, the company claims to have repeated its feat of a 50+ percent performance/Watt gain over the previous-generation, which propelled the RX 6000-series to competitiveness with NVIDIA's fastest RTX 30-series SKUs. AMD's performance claims for the Radeon RX 7900 XTX put the card at anywhere between 50% to 70% faster than the company's current flagship, the RX 6950 XT, when tested at 4K UHD resolution. Digging through these claims, and piecing together relevant information from the Endnotes, HXL was able to draw an extrapolated performance comparison between the RX 7900 XTX, the real-world tested RTX 4090, and previous-generation flagships RTX 3090 Ti and RX 6950 XT.
The graphs put the Radeon RX 7900 XTX menacingly close to the GeForce RTX 4090. In Watch_Dogs Legion, the RTX 4090 is 6.4% faster than the RX 7900 XTX. Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus see the two cards evenly matched, with a delta under 1%. The RTX 4090 is 4.4% faster with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022). Accounting for the pinch of salt usually associated with launch-date first-party performance claims; the RX 7900 XTX would end up within 5-10% of the RTX 4090, but pricing changes everything. The RTX 4090 is a $1,599 (MSRP) card, whereas the RX 7900 XTX is $999. Assuming the upcoming RTX 4080 (16 GB) is around 10% slower than the RTX 4090; the main clash for this generation will be between the RTX 4080 and RX 7900 XTX. Even here, AMD gets ahead with pricing, as the RTX 4080 was announced with an MSRP of $1,199 (exactly 20% pricier than the RX 7900 XTX). With the FSR 3.0 Fluid Motion announcement, AMD also blunted NVIDIA's DLSS 3 Frame Generation performance advantage.
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The graphs put the Radeon RX 7900 XTX menacingly close to the GeForce RTX 4090. In Watch_Dogs Legion, the RTX 4090 is 6.4% faster than the RX 7900 XTX. Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus see the two cards evenly matched, with a delta under 1%. The RTX 4090 is 4.4% faster with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022). Accounting for the pinch of salt usually associated with launch-date first-party performance claims; the RX 7900 XTX would end up within 5-10% of the RTX 4090, but pricing changes everything. The RTX 4090 is a $1,599 (MSRP) card, whereas the RX 7900 XTX is $999. Assuming the upcoming RTX 4080 (16 GB) is around 10% slower than the RTX 4090; the main clash for this generation will be between the RTX 4080 and RX 7900 XTX. Even here, AMD gets ahead with pricing, as the RTX 4080 was announced with an MSRP of $1,199 (exactly 20% pricier than the RX 7900 XTX). With the FSR 3.0 Fluid Motion announcement, AMD also blunted NVIDIA's DLSS 3 Frame Generation performance advantage.
164 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Performance Claims Extrapolated, Performs Within Striking Distance of RTX 4090
My humble perspective: 7900XTX/XT, if claimed figures are true, is an amazing, wipes-the-floor-with-competitor product that actually is NOT a direct competitor of 4090 as:
1) It is quite a bit smaller (300mm2 of 5nm and 37*6 of 6nm, totals at around 522mm2, quite down fro 600mm2 of 4090)
2) Is about 2 times cheaper (the "$1600" 4090 is 2300 Euro here, cough, even that 1.6k price point is BS, it should cost around 1900)
3) Is way cheaper to produce (600mm2 monolith vs 300mm2 + 6 small thingies at N6)
4) is fed by only two 8-pin connectors
Its direct competitors are 4080 16GB, and 4080 12GB (RIP :D)
(This product has literally KILLED one of its two competitors)
So, with all that in mind, it would make sense to present 'vs 4080' angle in the presentation.
Exception there is no 4080 out yet.
That is 37% cheaper
28% less power usage
no special power supply or adapters
no special case requirements
no fire
no shitty nvidia drivers
future proof displayport spec
AV1 support
If you buy a 4090 at this point you're a fool.
Expect a little less but at $600 cheaper. AIB's is were it's going to be pushed, AMD seems to be targeting 2 parts of the market and giving the AIB's some room to play with.
It is still a disruptive product (that already DOAed 4080 12GB :D :D :D)
The 4090 can remain the gaming king but it's the king john of graphics cards. Maybe the 7900 XTX can be it's robin hood counterpart, assuming it performs as expected.
AMD was not ready for a proper unveil but they were forced to unveil it to put their cards on the shopping list for those ready to buy a 4080 because now i bet many of those are willing to wait for a 7900 instead of going out to grab a 4080 in mid november. This is all a dick measuring contest nothing more.
Unfortunately because of my High End VR i'm stuck with Nvidia and can't go with AMD. AMD need to invest more RD for VR and colaborate with VR companys. Hope Intel can produce even better cards and give competition so we all can have good GPU's priced right!
GPU's in Europe are super expensive because $/€ parity and VAT. So a 4090 is now costing 2300/2400€. Let's see if AMD have some care for European customers, and try to mitigate the price in Europe. If AMD does like NVidia, a 1000$ card will cost about 1500€ and AIB's will cost even more.
Well done AMD, hope you kick Nvidia strong this generation. We all will benefit with that!
But ya. Back in the day these were the bees knees
It will be interesting to see just what performance comes from a cache increase alone once those models launch and if they will end up being +$100 or +$200 over the currently announced stuff.
If you think that 5% is too little gain going from 300W to 355W, just consider the below for RTX 4090 (only -5% going from 450W to 330W:
Methodology now is to measure columns, so columns is what we measure. We haven't marketed rows since the introduction of 4k and above resolutions.